Do you cheer for or are you against Jett Lawrence having a PERFECT! season

agn5008
Profile picture for user agn5008
Posts
2048
Joined
3/8/2021
Location
PA, PA, USA
Fantasy
58th
agn5008 6/22/2023 4:22am
6/22/2023 4:22am
agn5008 wrote:
How could someone possibly not agree that it’s a weak field?    Tomac, Sexton, Anderson, Craig and Barcia. There is your top 5 at the final...

How could someone possibly not agree that it’s a weak field? 
 

Tomac, Sexton, Anderson, Craig and Barcia. There is your top 5 at the final MX round last year. Every single one of them is out. Plessinger is the only rider who finished inside the top 10 in points last year who’s currently racing. 
 

That’s pretty weak. 

ando wrote:
How do you measure strength of the field? Anderson, Craig and Barcia don't have a single outdoor title between them, and only one 450SX title. Ferrandis...

How do you measure strength of the field?

Anderson, Craig and Barcia don't have a single outdoor title between them, and only one 450SX title.

Ferrandis, Webb, Cianciarulo and Plessinger between them have 4 x 250MX and 1 x 450MX title, plus Webb has 2 450SX titles.

Those three guys ( Anderson, Craig, Barcia) wouldn't be doing anything more than filling out the top ten.  Does that make the field stronger if instead of 4 guys who are 30 secs to a minute behind there are 7 guys who are still that far behind first?

 

I never once said they’d be beating Jett. You don’t think our typical top 10 guys not being there to fill out the top 10 doesn’t make the field weaker overall? You don’t think the field is weaker when the only two guys who can straight up run with Jett aren’t there (Tomac and Sexton)? Do you think guys like Harlan, Drake, Pape, Locurcio, etc would be normally battling for 10-15th place? Do you think those guys would be beating any of the above mentioned guys? Of course not. That means the field is weak. Almost half of the guys who would be in points paying positions every single week aren’t on the track. That’s how I measure a weak field. 
 

I don’t even know how someone can argue about this. 

1
3
mx313
Profile picture for user mx313
Posts
1532
Joined
10/5/2021
Location
Brisbane City, QLD, AU
mx313 6/22/2023 4:30am
6/22/2023 4:30am
agn5008 wrote:
How could someone possibly not agree that it’s a weak field?    Tomac, Sexton, Anderson, Craig and Barcia. There is your top 5 at the final...

How could someone possibly not agree that it’s a weak field? 
 

Tomac, Sexton, Anderson, Craig and Barcia. There is your top 5 at the final MX round last year. Every single one of them is out. Plessinger is the only rider who finished inside the top 10 in points last year who’s currently racing. 
 

That’s pretty weak. 

ando wrote:
How do you measure strength of the field? Anderson, Craig and Barcia don't have a single outdoor title between them, and only one 450SX title. Ferrandis...

How do you measure strength of the field?

Anderson, Craig and Barcia don't have a single outdoor title between them, and only one 450SX title.

Ferrandis, Webb, Cianciarulo and Plessinger between them have 4 x 250MX and 1 x 450MX title, plus Webb has 2 450SX titles.

Those three guys ( Anderson, Craig, Barcia) wouldn't be doing anything more than filling out the top ten.  Does that make the field stronger if instead of 4 guys who are 30 secs to a minute behind there are 7 guys who are still that far behind first?

 

agn5008 wrote:
I never once said they’d be beating Jett. You don’t think our typical top 10 guys not being there to fill out the top 10 doesn’t...

I never once said they’d be beating Jett. You don’t think our typical top 10 guys not being there to fill out the top 10 doesn’t make the field weaker overall? You don’t think the field is weaker when the only two guys who can straight up run with Jett aren’t there (Tomac and Sexton)? Do you think guys like Harlan, Drake, Pape, Locurcio, etc would be normally battling for 10-15th place? Do you think those guys would be beating any of the above mentioned guys? Of course not. That means the field is weak. Almost half of the guys who would be in points paying positions every single week aren’t on the track. That’s how I measure a weak field. 
 

I don’t even know how someone can argue about this. 

Harlan and those are in the top 10. Not coz we are missing 5 factory riders. Coz we are always missing 4 or 5 factory guys.

It's coz the guys after the factory riders are all doing wsx. Guys like mcelrath, savatgy, Wilson and anstie are no longer there. They would normally be 8-12.

The main issue with this season is jett doesn't have a rival.

Add sexton and it would be a great season. Just like last year. No 1 complained they were 30 seconds up on the field. Coz sexton and tomac were battling.

2
1
Chris_Buehler
Profile picture for user Chris_Buehler
Posts
8615
Joined
7/21/2019
Location
PORTLAND, CT, USA
Chris_Buehler 6/22/2023 4:34am
6/22/2023 4:34am
Chris_Buehler wrote:

More talent than Eli Tomac? Eli Tomac? He won the first National he ever raced, you remember that right?

Perky wrote:
I do! I watched that race and have been a fan of him since. I’m not talking about 2010 Eli, or 2015 Eli. I think at...

I do! I watched that race and have been a fan of him since. I’m not talking about 2010 Eli, or 2015 Eli. I think at this point in their perspective careers Sexton has more raw speed, but he’s also a basket case so it depends on the day.

No arguments there. Chase has more raw speed at this point. Definitely blows up periodically 

dsc131
Profile picture for user dsc131
Posts
491
Joined
8/4/2021
Location
Temecula, WY, USA
Fantasy
1714th
dsc131 6/22/2023 4:35am
6/22/2023 4:35am
Chris_Buehler wrote:
Just like most polls on here, you're answers suck. If you vote no, it's because you're a salty American? That's the only reason you could possibly...

Just like most polls on here, you're answers suck. If you vote no, it's because you're a salty American? That's the only reason you could possibly vote no?

Chris, thanks for mentioning this…really bothered me as well…so much that I didn’t vote.

i appreciate talent, hard work, and dedication no matter where it comes from. 

3

The Shop

See All »
agn5008
Profile picture for user agn5008
Posts
2048
Joined
3/8/2021
Location
PA, PA, USA
Fantasy
58th
agn5008 6/22/2023 5:29am
6/22/2023 5:29am
Perky wrote:
For the most part I don't agree with the "weak field" argument but the point around Barcia is pretty legitimate. Though I like Chase, I think...

For the most part I don't agree with the "weak field" argument but the point around Barcia is pretty legitimate. Though I like Chase, I think he's got a hair more talent than Eli but none of the mental fortitude. I think Jett is just as good with Chase, but has all the confidence Chase lacks.

agn5008 wrote:
How could someone possibly not agree that it’s a weak field?    Tomac, Sexton, Anderson, Craig and Barcia. There is your top 5 at the final...

How could someone possibly not agree that it’s a weak field? 
 

Tomac, Sexton, Anderson, Craig and Barcia. There is your top 5 at the final MX round last year. Every single one of them is out. Plessinger is the only rider who finished inside the top 10 in points last year who’s currently racing. 
 

That’s pretty weak. 

mx313 wrote:
I'm not trying to say it isn't weak. But I don't think your point is that great. The top 5 last year are not here this...

I'm not trying to say it isn't weak. But I don't think your point is that great.

The top 5 last year are not here this year.

But the top 5 this year were not there last year.

So both years had only 5 factory riders at some stage.

The main difference is there was 2 elite guys. 30 seconds up the track. If 1 of those were not there it's the same as this season.

Chase, Eli, jett

 

Big gap. And the other 7 are all pretty much the same

I never said “Jett’s competition is weaker because those guys are out.” I know only Tomac and Sexton would most likely battle Jett weekly. (Which realistically does make Jett’s competition for the title “weaker”) I said the “field is weak.” As in the entire field as a whole is weak. When we have Sexton, Tomac, Anderson, Craig, Mookie, Barcia, Roczen, Wilson, Savatgy, McElrath etc all out then it’s inevitably a much weaker field. Those are all guys who would be points receiving riders every single week. Most of the guys currently battling for 10th-20th would be battling to get a single point, not crack the top 10 if the field wasn’t this depleted. 

1
RandomUserName 6/22/2023 8:29am
6/22/2023 8:29am

Against. There's no way he gets a perfect season with a full gate of all the normal Riders. If he does it, I'm applying the asterisk

1
15
Paul333
Profile picture for user Paul333
Posts
2275
Joined
2/15/2012
Location
Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Paul333 6/22/2023 8:35am
6/22/2023 8:35am

I normally prefer to see Americans win our series but its impossible not to like the Lawrences. They do things the right way 99% of the time. 

I do not want perfect seasons and want good racing but I can clap for the Lawrence family. They've earned it. 

9
2
ando
Profile picture for user ando
Posts
4581
Joined
8/20/2009
Location
Perth, AU
ando 6/22/2023 11:12am
6/22/2023 11:12am
RandomUserName wrote:

Against. There's no way he gets a perfect season with a full gate of all the normal Riders. If he does it, I'm applying the asterisk

Unless your name is Sexton or Tomac it would make no difference.

The other perfect seasons had the same elements.  No matter what we thought of the other riders they just weren’t at the level of the guy winning.

In 2004 it was Carmichael, daylight, then Reed and Windham were battling over 2nd and 3rd place, then daylight, then everyone else.  

Same in 2008.  Ferry, Short etc were good riders but no-one was anywhere near Stewart.  Reed was SX only, RC had retired and Villopoto was still in 250’s.  Stewart hit the sweet spot of timing.  That doesn’t detract from his achievement because it takes a lot more than just being faster to go 24-0.

A perfect season requires not only a great rider but minimal genuine competition and a good deal of luck with no major crashes, injuries or mechanical failures.

2
2
clem
Profile picture for user clem
Posts
367
Joined
6/12/2009
Location
Thibodaux, LA, USA
clem 6/22/2023 5:46pm
6/22/2023 5:46pm

Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21 seconds over Aaron Plessinger, 3 laps to go it was 1 minute. I add AP in there since he is one of the few top guys from 2022 racing 2023. For people to think that Jett would be running through Sexton and Tomac is just hilarious.

1
6
BigRedMachine
Profile picture for user BigRedMachine
Posts
692
Joined
1/29/2023
Location
Grants Pass, OR, USA
BigRedMachine 6/22/2023 5:57pm
6/22/2023 5:57pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2023 6:41pm
clem wrote:
Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21...

Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21 seconds over Aaron Plessinger, 3 laps to go it was 1 minute. I add AP in there since he is one of the few top guys from 2022 racing 2023. For people to think that Jett would be running through Sexton and Tomac is just hilarious.

2023 Hangtown 450 moto 2, Jett Lawrence beat Aaron Plessinger by 1:27 seconds, so using your math, Jett would have beat Tomac by 27 seconds Blink

450 Moto 2

450MX class Moto 2 race results (30 Min. + 2 Laps).

Pos.Num.RiderBikeTime

1#18Jett LawrenceHON16 Laps

2#2Cooper WebbKTM+05.041

3#14Dylan FerrandisYAM+12.747

4#9Adam CianciaruloKAW+1:00.185

5#107Jose ButronGAS+1:15.882

6#7Aaron PlessingerKTM+1:27.071

7#81Ty MasterpoolKAW+1:29.669

8#53Derek DrakeSUZ+1:34.651

9#93Jerry RobinYAM+1:45.468

10#444Romain PapeGAS+1:50.461

11#103Lorenzo LocurcioGAS+1:59.017

12#77Ryan SurrattHON+2:14.914

13#11Kyle ChisholmSUZ+2:32.420

14#388Brandon RayHON15 Laps

15#47Fredrik NorenRMZ+00.694

16#511Jace KesslerHON+07.084

17#227Jacob RunklesGAS+20.056

18#315Cody GrovesGAS+21.472

19#411Scott MesheyHQV+30.492

20#841Jeffrey WalkerKTM+38.331

21#140Alex RayYAM+55.700

22#830Ezra LewisGAS+56.369

23#171Josh MosimanHON+1:14.457

24#174Luca MarsalisiYAM+1:22.297

25#126RJ WagemanYAM+1:46.322

26#820Matthew BurkeenYAM14 Laps

27#162Maxwell SanfordHON+06.594

28#604Max MillerKTM+10.608

29#480Ashton OudmanYAM+1:13.497

30#517Ty FreehillYAM10 Laps

31#177Tyler StepekHON8 Laps

32#671Tyler DucrayKTM7 Laps

33#350Chandler BakerKAW6 Laps

34#89Kaeden AmerineKAW5 Laps

35#281Cory CarstenSUZ+24:07.523

36#995Christopher PrebulaKTMDNS

37#50Marshal WeltinSUZDNS

38#78Grant HarlanYAMDNS

39#483Bryton CarrollYAMDNS

40#645Colby CoppGASDNS

5
mx313
Profile picture for user mx313
Posts
1532
Joined
10/5/2021
Location
Brisbane City, QLD, AU
mx313 6/22/2023 6:00pm
6/22/2023 6:00pm
clem wrote:
Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21...

Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21 seconds over Aaron Plessinger, 3 laps to go it was 1 minute. I add AP in there since he is one of the few top guys from 2022 racing 2023. For people to think that Jett would be running through Sexton and Tomac is just hilarious.

You cannot pick random races and make up your own results.

In 22 mx wasn't plessinger coming back from a broken wrist. On a new bike no1 liked? 22 was his worst mx season.

Look at 21. Half way the top 5 in points.

Ferrandis, roczen, plessinger, sexton, tomac.

So by using your logic and the 21 results as the base for my claim.

This year's championship if tomac and sexton lined up they would be coming 6th and 7th?

Makes sense?? No.

1
1
clem
Profile picture for user clem
Posts
367
Joined
6/12/2009
Location
Thibodaux, LA, USA
clem 6/22/2023 7:20pm
6/22/2023 7:20pm
clem wrote:
Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21...

Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21 seconds over Aaron Plessinger, 3 laps to go it was 1 minute. I add AP in there since he is one of the few top guys from 2022 racing 2023. For people to think that Jett would be running through Sexton and Tomac is just hilarious.

mx313 wrote:
You cannot pick random races and make up your own results. In 22 mx wasn't plessinger coming back from a broken wrist. On a new bike...

You cannot pick random races and make up your own results.

In 22 mx wasn't plessinger coming back from a broken wrist. On a new bike no1 liked? 22 was his worst mx season.

Look at 21. Half way the top 5 in points.

Ferrandis, roczen, plessinger, sexton, tomac.

So by using your logic and the 21 results as the base for my claim.

This year's championship if tomac and sexton lined up they would be coming 6th and 7th?

Makes sense?? No.

I did not make up my own results. I only used the example of the race I was currently watching. I put the times in the post only to reference that what's going on this year isn't much different than the last. It would be a three way battle at the front right now with last year's front runners in the leading the way. I thought coming into this year that Jett ,the rookie, would be taking notes not far back in third sneaking in a moto win here and there.

1
1
mx313
Profile picture for user mx313
Posts
1532
Joined
10/5/2021
Location
Brisbane City, QLD, AU
mx313 6/22/2023 8:16pm
6/22/2023 8:16pm
clem wrote:
Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21...

Last year the first four rounds had four different winners. Sexton, Anderson, Roczen and Tomac. At Red Bud, moto 1, 10  minutes in Tomac had 21 seconds over Aaron Plessinger, 3 laps to go it was 1 minute. I add AP in there since he is one of the few top guys from 2022 racing 2023. For people to think that Jett would be running through Sexton and Tomac is just hilarious.

mx313 wrote:
You cannot pick random races and make up your own results. In 22 mx wasn't plessinger coming back from a broken wrist. On a new bike...

You cannot pick random races and make up your own results.

In 22 mx wasn't plessinger coming back from a broken wrist. On a new bike no1 liked? 22 was his worst mx season.

Look at 21. Half way the top 5 in points.

Ferrandis, roczen, plessinger, sexton, tomac.

So by using your logic and the 21 results as the base for my claim.

This year's championship if tomac and sexton lined up they would be coming 6th and 7th?

Makes sense?? No.

clem wrote:
I did not make up my own results. I only used the example of the race I was currently watching. I put the times in the...

I did not make up my own results. I only used the example of the race I was currently watching. I put the times in the post only to reference that what's going on this year isn't much different than the last. It would be a three way battle at the front right now with last year's front runners in the leading the way. I thought coming into this year that Jett ,the rookie, would be taking notes not far back in third sneaking in a moto win here and there.

Your using 2 different races to make up results of a future race that doesnt exsist. That doesn't work.

Example.

Pala 1 this year Jett beat ferrandis by 30 seconds.

Pala 1 2021 ferrandis beat tomac by half a minute.

If jett races tomac he wins by 1 minute. The result of those 2 races prove me to be 100% correct.

Every damn race is different don't try to compare races. It doesn't work.

1
1
Ozy
Profile picture for user Ozy
Posts
2271
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
Ozy 6/24/2023 11:14am
6/24/2023 11:14am

I like Jett and think he is the future face of SX/MX . . . I hope Jett doesn't have a perfect season - if he does, he lucked into it. Only one (1) rider from last season's top 9 finishers is racing this season. I love Kroc but he was not a title threat last season and came off the couch and was a very close 2nd to Jettson last week.

1. Eli Tomac                   546 point

2. Chase Sexton           539 points

3. Jason Anderson       440 points

4. Ken Roczen             394 points

5. Christian Craig         373 points

6. Ryan Dungey            359 points

7. AP                               322 points

8. Barcia                        303 points

9. Savatgy                      222 points

8
BigRedMachine
Profile picture for user BigRedMachine
Posts
692
Joined
1/29/2023
Location
Grants Pass, OR, USA
BigRedMachine 6/24/2023 12:17pm
6/24/2023 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2023 12:20pm
Ozy wrote:
I like Jett and think he is the future face of SX/MX . . . I hope Jett doesn't have a perfect season - if he...

I like Jett and think he is the future face of SX/MX . . . I hope Jett doesn't have a perfect season - if he does, he lucked into it. Only one (1) rider from last season's top 9 finishers is racing this season. I love Kroc but he was not a title threat last season and came off the couch and was a very close 2nd to Jettson last week.

1. Eli Tomac                   546 point

2. Chase Sexton           539 points

3. Jason Anderson       440 points

4. Ken Roczen             394 points

5. Christian Craig         373 points

6. Ryan Dungey            359 points

7. AP                               322 points

8. Barcia                        303 points

9. Savatgy                      222 points

James Stewart gets all kinds of accolades for his perfect season,  but considering his competition in 2008 wouldn't you have to admit that he lucked into that 24-0 season if you're going to hold Jett Lawrence to that same standard.  No riders racing against him in 2008 like RC, No RV, No Dungey, No Eli, No Roczen, No Sexton and had Jett Lawrence been racing in 2008, I'd venture a bet that there's no way James Stewart would have had a perfect season.  I think its insulting to Jett Lawrence if he has a perfect season to say he lucked into it. 

2
TXDirt
Profile picture for user TXDirt
Posts
7786
Joined
7/29/2015
Location
Plano, TX, USA
TXDirt 6/24/2023 3:39pm
6/24/2023 3:39pm

Hard to get excited when his main competition is Marchbanks and Masterpool and an out of the retirement home Kenny.

2
8
BigRedMachine
Profile picture for user BigRedMachine
Posts
692
Joined
1/29/2023
Location
Grants Pass, OR, USA
BigRedMachine 6/24/2023 4:25pm
6/24/2023 4:25pm
404namedoesnotexist@gmail.com wrote:

I do not care. This season blows either way. Most boring season I have witnessed and I’ve been watching since 1985. 

So! You must have skipped 2008 

2

Pit Row

See All »
FreshTopEnd
Profile picture for user FreshTopEnd
Posts
13326
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Sacramento, CA, USA
FreshTopEnd 6/24/2023 5:21pm
6/24/2023 5:21pm
Ozy wrote:
I like Jett and think he is the future face of SX/MX . . . I hope Jett doesn't have a perfect season - if he...

I like Jett and think he is the future face of SX/MX . . . I hope Jett doesn't have a perfect season - if he does, he lucked into it. Only one (1) rider from last season's top 9 finishers is racing this season. I love Kroc but he was not a title threat last season and came off the couch and was a very close 2nd to Jettson last week.

1. Eli Tomac                   546 point

2. Chase Sexton           539 points

3. Jason Anderson       440 points

4. Ken Roczen             394 points

5. Christian Craig         373 points

6. Ryan Dungey            359 points

7. AP                               322 points

8. Barcia                        303 points

9. Savatgy                      222 points

BigRedMachine wrote:
James Stewart gets all kinds of accolades for his perfect season,  but considering his competition in 2008 wouldn't you have to admit that he lucked into...

James Stewart gets all kinds of accolades for his perfect season,  but considering his competition in 2008 wouldn't you have to admit that he lucked into that 24-0 season if you're going to hold Jett Lawrence to that same standard.  No riders racing against him in 2008 like RC, No RV, No Dungey, No Eli, No Roczen, No Sexton and had Jett Lawrence been racing in 2008, I'd venture a bet that there's no way James Stewart would have had a perfect season.  I think its insulting to Jett Lawrence if he has a perfect season to say he lucked into it. 

Yabadabadoo Barney

LF5A4002.jpg?VersionId=MVcYIXP19dVDUfq3.gW28 yVUgDmA

 

3
The Moth
Profile picture for user The Moth
Posts
347
Joined
2/3/2023
Location
Los Angeles, CA, USA
The Moth 6/24/2023 6:53pm
6/24/2023 6:53pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2023 6:58pm

I would love to see Jett go 22-0 because it's an incredible feat to do such a thing.  To have no crashes that cost you a win, no mechanicals, no other factors is what makes it incredible.  Much like Stewart in 2008, Jett can only race who is there.  And right now he is beating two former 250 National Champions (one of which is a 2 time 450 SX Champion), a former 450 National champion, and he beat Kenny Roczen who is a former MX2 World Champion, and 2-time 450 National Champion.  Jett is not going up against amateurs or 2nd rate riders.  They are just not doing their job like he is.  

The one rider that did have 2 perfect seasons, Ricky Carmichael, did so against a bit stiffer competition, with the likes of Chad Reed, Ezra Lusk, Kdub, Tortelli and the like.  That makes RC stand out a bit in my opinion.  The only other rider who almost had a perfect season against real stiff competition was Mark Barnett in 1981. He beat up and coming hotshots O'Mara, Ward, and Johnson and probably would have had a perfect season had it not been for his injury at the end of the season.  But he built such a big lead that he won the title anyways!

 

3
jonesaustin
Profile picture for user jonesaustin
Posts
2659
Joined
7/6/2009
Location
Austin, TX, USA
jonesaustin 6/24/2023 7:23pm
6/24/2023 7:23pm

He’s a phenom and to see a rookie pull off a perfect season would be historic, so yes bring it on.

3
2
KurtJ99
Profile picture for user KurtJ99
Posts
2552
Joined
2/6/2017
Location
USA
KurtJ99 6/24/2023 7:50pm
6/24/2023 7:50pm
jonesaustin wrote:

He’s a phenom and to see a rookie pull off a perfect season would be historic, so yes bring it on.

It’s worth watching to see a potential rookie perfect season or someone break through and beat him. Depleted field or not it’s an awesome start. 

1
BigRedMachine
Profile picture for user BigRedMachine
Posts
692
Joined
1/29/2023
Location
Grants Pass, OR, USA
BigRedMachine 7/15/2023 1:51pm
7/15/2023 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2023 1:51pm

So! maybe today is the day Jett's perfect season comes to an end, Chase looked really fast in that 1st moto.  What's amazing is the pace they were running, 3rd place was 51 seconds behind the Honda boys.    Some awesome racing today and glad to see Hunter back in the drivers seat in the 250f class. 

1
davistld01
Profile picture for user davistld01
Posts
9314
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Springfield, MO, USA
davistld01 7/15/2023 4:44pm
7/15/2023 4:44pm

I checked to see who the OP was on this poll...and I wasn't surprised, at all.

mxb2
Profile picture for user mxb2
Posts
22437
Joined
6/15/2010
Location
Bowie, MD, USA
mxb2 7/15/2023 6:08pm
7/15/2023 6:08pm
davistld01 wrote:

I checked to see who the OP was on this poll...and I wasn't surprised, at all.

Honda fan boy. Shocker. 

2
kw255
Profile picture for user kw255
Posts
5
Joined
1/5/2019
Location
AU
kw255 7/15/2023 6:45pm
7/15/2023 6:45pm
ando wrote:
How do you measure strength of the field? Anderson, Craig and Barcia don't have a single outdoor title between them, and only one 450SX title. Ferrandis...

How do you measure strength of the field?

Anderson, Craig and Barcia don't have a single outdoor title between them, and only one 450SX title.

Ferrandis, Webb, Cianciarulo and Plessinger between them have 4 x 250MX and 1 x 450MX title, plus Webb has 2 450SX titles.

Those three guys ( Anderson, Craig, Barcia) wouldn't be doing anything more than filling out the top ten.  Does that make the field stronger if instead of 4 guys who are 30 secs to a minute behind there are 7 guys who are still that far behind first?

 

Agree, Chase and Eli smoked everyone last year by 30-40seconds and Chase is still doing it this year. The only problem is Jett is 10 seconds ahead of him. The depth of the field is irrelevant for the conversation around wins. 

5
GoonRider93 7/16/2023 2:47am
7/16/2023 2:47am

I'm indifferent honestly, it would be pretty cool but I'd love to see someone else click off a win too. 

I'm not going to give Jett grief about the depleted field thing, that's not his fault and he can only race the people that line up. 

davistld01
Profile picture for user davistld01
Posts
9314
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Springfield, MO, USA
davistld01 7/16/2023 2:59am
7/16/2023 2:59am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2023 2:59am

Jett is doing his job…winning races. No harm, no foul. It’s the same thing as when guys like RC, Stewart, MC and others came on the scene and were simply superior to the competitors they were racing against. It happens…and there will be another coming up through the ranks that will show Jett his rear fender in time. I’d like to see some closer competition, for some other riders to pull off some wins just to stir the pot…but for the moment, it looks like it’s Jett’s “moment”. 

1
BBA
Profile picture for user BBA
Posts
260
Joined
3/6/2011
Location
somewhere, NC, USA
BBA 7/16/2023 4:08am
7/16/2023 4:08am

If Jett goes the perfect season then he's earned it no matter who is not supposedly racing. I don't think Tomac would have anything for the rookie 450 rocket ship and he is just on a different level right now. As for being a salty American I guess I'm always glad to see a fellow countryman being on top but I was a JMB fan as a kid and never understood why he got such a cold shoulder here in the states while he was racing. 

1
2

Post a reply to: Do you cheer for or are you against Jett Lawrence having a PERFECT! season