This as a sport will self implode

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Some foundational changes need to be made.

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About what???

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5/7/2023 6:44am

Copy and paste, What a shame, someone in charge should look towards the future rather than short term gains. An Implosion is imminent. As a sport and business model the current direction will fall off quickly once the crop of 30yr olds quit racing and the over 40 crowd quits riding. What a shame

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5/7/2023 6:48am

Doom and gloom!

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5/7/2023 6:59am

MXGP is down to two title contenders as well. Supercross is not the only problem

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5/7/2023 7:08am
peltier626 wrote:
Copy and paste, What a shame, someone in charge should look towards the future rather than short term gains. An Implosion is imminent. As a sport...

Copy and paste, What a shame, someone in charge should look towards the future rather than short term gains. An Implosion is imminent. As a sport and business model the current direction will fall off quickly once the crop of 30yr olds quit racing and the over 40 crowd quits riding. What a shame

Both of your posts have imploded, congrats.

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5/7/2023 7:13am

I can't place any of these injuries on Feld, but if you want to stretch, then it's Barcia's. I'd argue the dragon's back should be retired. Beyond that, everything else is just inherent dangers of the sport. Anderson, Craig, and AP were all practice crashes on different tracks. Webb was a freak accident that could happen even you turned SX into a curvy track with no jumps. Same with Eli's - only way to prevent that is to remove all jumps. If I remember correctly, didn't Stewart's injury happen at the practice track? Any injuries I'm missing where track design clearly contributed to the injury? 

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5/7/2023 7:21am

Fuck me. Tomac's injury was a freak accident. Like Roczen's in 2017. Both riders got the transition very slightly wrong, probably something all the pros do a few times every race. This one time it bit Tomac. If you put these dudes on flat tracks, wrap them in pillows, and make them ride 85cc bikes, some of them will still get hurt.

It's not an inside job. It's not a set up. It's not indicative of any problems with the sport. It's not the end of the world. Calm your tits, this is supercross.

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peltier626 wrote:
Copy and paste, What a shame, someone in charge should look towards the future rather than short term gains. An Implosion is imminent. As a sport...

Copy and paste, What a shame, someone in charge should look towards the future rather than short term gains. An Implosion is imminent. As a sport and business model the current direction will fall off quickly once the crop of 30yr olds quit racing and the over 40 crowd quits riding. What a shame

MX Culture wrote:

Both of your posts have imploded, congrats.

Thanks! 

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I’d argue some form of 

- 12sx/12mx/3smx

- 10sx/10mx/3-5smx

or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3 idk just thoughts. 
 

That many rounds may make it more manageable and realistic for teams to compete in world SX? That’d be interesting and honestly help grow the sport in whole and maybe keep riders safer for longer and riding for longer 

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The government requires cigarette companies to put a warning on each pack because nobody knew it was bad for your health till they put the note on there that it is.

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DonM
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peltier626 wrote:

Some foundational changes need to be made.

It appears that your glass is half empty....

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mx 219
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5/7/2023 8:11am Edited Date/Time 5/7/2023 8:12am
BCEZ$niper wrote:
I’d argue some form of  - 12sx/12mx/3smx - 10sx/10mx/3-5smx or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3...

I’d argue some form of 

- 12sx/12mx/3smx

- 10sx/10mx/3-5smx

or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3 idk just thoughts. 
 

That many rounds may make it more manageable and realistic for teams to compete in world SX? That’d be interesting and honestly help grow the sport in whole and maybe keep riders safer for longer and riding for longer 

I would be in favor of more hybrid races like Daytona, though a few less jumps would be okay, and less rounds of supercross.

It's not just supercross, but you can't deny that the more jumps and rhythms these guys do the more chance of injury. Look at how many top riders got hurt either racing or practicing for supercross. A short season might help.

 

Id do like 12-15 supercross races, if you are going to do 15  then do like 5 hybrid tracks. Give the riders a bigger break between series for those with minor injuries. A 10-10-3(or 5) sx, mx, smx might not be too bad either.

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5/7/2023 8:18am

Look at how many guys are out. This happens every year. Something should be changed. Add in AC who missed races this year.

Fewer jumps and fewer races would help. Who can deny that? If Feld doesn't want to run fewer races find someone who will.

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5/7/2023 8:19am
BCEZ$niper wrote:
I’d argue some form of  - 12sx/12mx/3smx - 10sx/10mx/3-5smx or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3...

I’d argue some form of 

- 12sx/12mx/3smx

- 10sx/10mx/3-5smx

or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3 idk just thoughts. 
 

That many rounds may make it more manageable and realistic for teams to compete in world SX? That’d be interesting and honestly help grow the sport in whole and maybe keep riders safer for longer and riding for longer 

mx 219 wrote:
I would be in favor of more hybrid races like Daytona, though a few less jumps would be okay, and less rounds of supercross. It's not...

I would be in favor of more hybrid races like Daytona, though a few less jumps would be okay, and less rounds of supercross.

It's not just supercross, but you can't deny that the more jumps and rhythms these guys do the more chance of injury. Look at how many top riders got hurt either racing or practicing for supercross. A short season might help.

 

Id do like 12-15 supercross races, if you are going to do 15  then do like 5 hybrid tracks. Give the riders a bigger break between series for those with minor injuries. A 10-10-3(or 5) sx, mx, smx might not be too bad either.

I enjoy tracks like Daytona and Atlanta. Let’s not forget thought that last year Eli suffered a knee injury at one of these tracks that almost derailed his championship. Remember he wrapped it up at Denver, then sat out SLC to let his knee heal before outdoors.

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5/7/2023 8:20am

Also something I haven’t seen discussed - how much did the Oakland rain out/reschedule impact health? Riders missed that bye week in the earlier part of the season in order to makeup the missed race.

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5/7/2023 8:22am
BCEZ$niper wrote:
I’d argue some form of  - 12sx/12mx/3smx - 10sx/10mx/3-5smx or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3...

I’d argue some form of 

- 12sx/12mx/3smx

- 10sx/10mx/3-5smx

or depending on how that’s all goes you could do any number of breakdowns. 12/8/4 - 12/10/3 idk just thoughts. 
 

That many rounds may make it more manageable and realistic for teams to compete in world SX? That’d be interesting and honestly help grow the sport in whole and maybe keep riders safer for longer and riding for longer 

mx 219 wrote:
I would be in favor of more hybrid races like Daytona, though a few less jumps would be okay, and less rounds of supercross. It's not...

I would be in favor of more hybrid races like Daytona, though a few less jumps would be okay, and less rounds of supercross.

It's not just supercross, but you can't deny that the more jumps and rhythms these guys do the more chance of injury. Look at how many top riders got hurt either racing or practicing for supercross. A short season might help.

 

Id do like 12-15 supercross races, if you are going to do 15  then do like 5 hybrid tracks. Give the riders a bigger break between series for those with minor injuries. A 10-10-3(or 5) sx, mx, smx might not be too bad either.

ttusomeone wrote:
I enjoy tracks like Daytona and Atlanta. Let’s not forget thought that last year Eli suffered a knee injury at one of these tracks that almost...

I enjoy tracks like Daytona and Atlanta. Let’s not forget thought that last year Eli suffered a knee injury at one of these tracks that almost derailed his championship. Remember he wrapped it up at Denver, then sat out SLC to let his knee heal before outdoors.

I agree, riders can get hurt at any time and on any type of track. That said, there appears to be more injuries during supercross. 

 

It would be interesting to see if as many riders got hurt if they started with nationals in may and then they rode supercross after nationals but we wont dee them change the schedule like that.

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kpiper wrote:
Look at how many guys are out. This happens every year. Something should be changed. Add in AC who missed races this year. Fewer jumps and...

Look at how many guys are out. This happens every year. Something should be changed. Add in AC who missed races this year.

Fewer jumps and fewer races would help. Who can deny that? If Feld doesn't want to run fewer races find someone who will.

Fewer jumps will make the 'racing' better too...that is just fact. SX is a circus act now, not so much racing.

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peltier626 wrote:

Some foundational changes need to be made.

Still drunk and awake, or just woke up hungover?

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5/7/2023 8:32am

Let’s make sure to blame everything except the riders on track decisions.

Nope, everything else.


Does anyone ever think the injuries in SX can possibly be tied to the amount of money at stake in SX.

Just asking.

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5/7/2023 8:35am Edited Date/Time 5/7/2023 8:36am

Who would have thought that Kenny will probably be the only guy to complete every lap this year.. Unreal.

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5/7/2023 8:36am
peltier626 wrote:

Some foundational changes need to be made.

Actually, the sport will be fine just as it is every other time someone like you freaks out and declares the sky is falling, children are dying, and baby seals are being clubbed.

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5/7/2023 8:43am

Pretty simple really ……. Don’t ride so fast or push so hard you wont get hurt. But being a professional that doesn’t pay very well 

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5/7/2023 8:46am Edited Date/Time 5/7/2023 8:46am

People giving OP shit...other than fluke Webb/Eli injuries, the field is obliterated with injuries.  

It's no fun watching people get carted off in ambulances every weekend

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Magoofan wrote:

People giving OP shit...other than fluke Webb/Eli injuries, the field is obliterated with injuries.  

It's no fun watching people get carted off in ambulances every weekend

The guys need more week breaks between races

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Magoofan wrote:

People giving OP shit...other than fluke Webb/Eli injuries, the field is obliterated with injuries.  

It's no fun watching people get carted off in ambulances every weekend

MXGP is getting depleted also....it's just one of those years

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5/7/2023 2:16pm Edited Date/Time 5/7/2023 2:16pm
 

 

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Injuries have always been a thing in dirt bike racing.  It seems worse now than I remember it being in the 70's 80's or 90's. The 4 strokes took over by mid 2000's.  Since then the rate and seriousness of the injuries seem to have increased.  My memory is not as sharp as it once was though.   I hate to admit it but I had to tell my brother to keep his kids away from motocross that it had gotten too fast and the jumps were too big. 

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