Tire changing fees.... crooks!

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I'm not one to rant about prices but I went to my local shop yesterday in Chico, CA and got a tire changed. It cost me $42.50 for a single fkn tire change. He said they would drop $10 if I bought the tire there but I had my own tire.

Meaningless to say I purchase a new TC250 at the same shop a couple years back and usually bring them my business but man this gave me a bad vibe.

Is this the standard pricing now or am I getting hosed?

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4/13/2023 10:17am

Brick and mortar shops are struggling due to online sales.  They have to try to make money on the places where they know you can't go online (new bike setup fees, tire changes, etc).   They hate when people buy tires online cheap and then expect a hookup putting it on.  If you plan to be in moto any length of time, it's best to change your own tires.

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4/13/2023 10:18am

It’s all like that now.

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4/13/2023 10:18am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2023 10:19am

For bringing your own tire that doesn't seem too outrageous. But I do know some shops around here will install free when you purchase a set of tires from them.

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4/13/2023 10:18am

That sounds not far off, depending on their hourly rate that's .5 or .3 hours probably, assuming you brought in a tire off the bike? The shop I used to work for would charge .3 hours for an off the bike tire change, or $25 if you bought the tire there (which was a screaming deal even 10 years ago) or .5 to .7 (depending on the bike) for taking the tire off of the bike.

You're paying the tech, and keeping the lights on in the shop for that 42.50. The tech probably only sees $10 of that.

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4/13/2023 10:19am

Yes - It's a business.  

Years ago I had the same shock going to a dealer, now I'll buy from the track side guy that installs on the spot if you buy from him.

Plus I have a tire changing stand just in case, however I don't like wrestling with a back tire if I don't have to.

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4/13/2023 10:25am

My local shop will not mount tires unless purchased at the dealer. They cite liabilty as the rationale. 

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4/13/2023 10:31am

Standard, I'm sure their labor rate was at least $100.00 a hour, you got charged less than a half hour.  Been working in dealerships for over 30 years. Buy the tire from the dealership and price would have been cheaper. You say you bought the bike there, why not the tire? Oh its cheaper on line. Not really.  Next time talk to your dealer, they will work with you on the price of tire and labor.  LOTS of dealers will not mount mailer order tires. When an If you have a issue with your mail order tire, guess what, you'll have to pay again to get it taken of the wheel to send back. Do you go to the grocery store an buy a steak and take it to the restaurant and ask them to cook it for you? Support your local dealer , you won't get the bad vibe YOU created.   

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4/13/2023 10:33am

Yeah probably best to change your own tires, its not that hard. Jay Clark has probably 100 videos on his process.

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4/13/2023 10:36am

...who pays someone to change their tires?  

Call me old school, but unless you are a pro rider on a team, paying someone to do a 10 minute tire change seems a little weak...

anyone who needs to learn can go find one of Jay Clark's YouTube videos, he can change a rear Dunlop in 4 minutes easy.

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JK BRO
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4/13/2023 10:36am

It looks like most agree with this price so I'm not going to argue that. I can just take my business elsewhere which is what I'll do.

I will say that working at Big O in my youth we were given 1.5hrs of shop time for 4 passenger tires with mount/balance. I find it hard to believe it takes a dirt bike shop .5hrs to change a tire on a unmounted wheel.

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4/13/2023 10:36am

Try changing one yourself and determine if it's worth it or not to have someone do it. 

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4/13/2023 10:38am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2023 10:42am
PDUB481 wrote:
Standard, I'm sure their labor rate was at least $100.00 a hour, you got charged less than a half hour.  Been working in dealerships for over...

Standard, I'm sure their labor rate was at least $100.00 a hour, you got charged less than a half hour.  Been working in dealerships for over 30 years. Buy the tire from the dealership and price would have been cheaper. You say you bought the bike there, why not the tire? Oh its cheaper on line. Not really.  Next time talk to your dealer, they will work with you on the price of tire and labor.  LOTS of dealers will not mount mailer order tires. When an If you have a issue with your mail order tire, guess what, you'll have to pay again to get it taken of the wheel to send back. Do you go to the grocery store an buy a steak and take it to the restaurant and ask them to cook it for you? Support your local dealer , you won't get the bad vibe YOU created.   

The sand tire was given to my by a friend a year ago. We were supposed to make a trip to sand mtn but it never happened. Finally got the time.

Wasn't trying to save money on the tire, it's just how things worked out. Nice job assuming you knew the situation.

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4/13/2023 10:39am

Tire changes were a struggle for me until I invested in a good stand and good irons, it’s actually one of my more favorite types of maintenance now. Nothing beats spooning a tire on and not even breaking a sweat, once you get the technique down it’s not a struggle at all. 
 

Fuck those 10” tires though, someone can take my money to do those. 

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4/13/2023 10:44am
Rickyisms wrote:
Tire changes were a struggle for me until I invested in a good stand and good irons, it’s actually one of my more favorite types of...

Tire changes were a struggle for me until I invested in a good stand and good irons, it’s actually one of my more favorite types of maintenance now. Nothing beats spooning a tire on and not even breaking a sweat, once you get the technique down it’s not a struggle at all. 
 

Fuck those 10” tires though, someone can take my money to do those. 

What stand and irons are you using?

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4/13/2023 10:48am

If they pinch a tube will they charge you for it? There are costs in doing business and everything is going up. 

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4/13/2023 10:53am

Shop labor is always expensive, no matter what. 

Set the tire in the sun to get it warm, use decent tire irons and bead soap and take small bites with the irons. Pay yourself the money you saved,

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4/13/2023 10:54am
McG194 wrote:

If they pinch a tube will they charge you for it? There are costs in doing business and everything is going up. 

If your tire guy is pinching tubes with a pneumatic machine then there's a problem. Pinching is normally an issue with tire irons.

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4/13/2023 10:58am

It takes less time to change a tire than it does to trash the shop on Vital

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4/13/2023 10:59am
JK BRO wrote:

What stand and irons are you using?

Pretty basic setup. A tusk stand w/ the bead breaker that my boss gave me, a couple of the cheaper motion pro irons and a tusk bead buddy. The only time I really have problems is dismounting old crusty tires. Just took off a set that was about 10 years old off the bike I just bought and had to get my dad for some extra hands. Need to invest in one of those really long irons, but other than that my setup is cheap and works for me. 

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4/13/2023 11:01am
JK BRO wrote:
I'm not one to rant about prices but I went to my local shop yesterday in Chico, CA and got a tire changed. It cost me...

I'm not one to rant about prices but I went to my local shop yesterday in Chico, CA and got a tire changed. It cost me $42.50 for a single fkn tire change. He said they would drop $10 if I bought the tire there but I had my own tire.

Meaningless to say I purchase a new TC250 at the same shop a couple years back and usually bring them my business but man this gave me a bad vibe.

Is this the standard pricing now or am I getting hosed?

Seems totally reasonable to me, for a tire you bought somewhere else. Change it yourself and decide if is worth it to pay someone??

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JK BRO wrote:
It looks like most agree with this price so I'm not going to argue that. I can just take my business elsewhere which is what I'll...

It looks like most agree with this price so I'm not going to argue that. I can just take my business elsewhere which is what I'll do.

I will say that working at Big O in my youth we were given 1.5hrs of shop time for 4 passenger tires with mount/balance. I find it hard to believe it takes a dirt bike shop .5hrs to change a tire on a unmounted wheel.

You already took your business elsewhere to purchase the tire. 

It boggles my mind when people buy online and expect the tire changing guy to be there like Tiny Tim: "Please Sir, may I have some more." when it comes to putting the tire on. I've been on both ends, I've been the online retailer and the local place and if you brought me tires, I didn't sell you I'm telling you to kick rocks. 

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4/13/2023 11:07am

Yeah...no. That is certainly reasonable in my opinion. In reality "most" people don't have a tire stand and this 10-minute change is really close to 30-minutes plus on the ground plus a possible set of bloody knuckles. Idk, maybe that's just me.

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4/13/2023 11:10am

Considering global, national and local economies, I'm not surprised.  Probably close to the expense of a set of irons.  The value of knowing a good, successful tire changing technique however, is priceless.  When you are ready to learn: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE1qG9iQZlg

 

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4/13/2023 11:13am

Some people just comment without reading.

I DIDN'T BUY THE TIRE.... I DIDN'T TAKE MY BUSINESS ELSEWHERE

The brand new CST surge sand tire was given to me by a good friend last year. We were due to make a trip to ride sand and it never happened. Now we have some time and are going to ride.

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4/13/2023 11:14am
McG194 wrote:

If they pinch a tube will they charge you for it? There are costs in doing business and everything is going up. 

JK BRO wrote:

If your tire guy is pinching tubes with a pneumatic machine then there's a problem. Pinching is normally an issue with tire irons.

So, you want them to invest in heavy duty machinery and not pass the cost along? 

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4/13/2023 11:15am
FGR01 wrote:
Brick and mortar shops are struggling due to online sales.  They have to try to make money on the places where they know you can't go...

Brick and mortar shops are struggling due to online sales.  They have to try to make money on the places where they know you can't go online (new bike setup fees, tire changes, etc).   They hate when people buy tires online cheap and then expect a hookup putting it on.  If you plan to be in moto any length of time, it's best to change your own tires.

If I had the ability to order a bike shipped to my door to skip the set up fee (most of us end up going back through when we get home anyways) I would in a heartbeat.  Online convenience is the name of the game these days.  It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't eventually get to the point where we can order them and skip the shop altogether.  I would say the BMV/ titling is the only thing holding it up at the moment. 

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JK BRO
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4/13/2023 11:15am
JK BRO wrote:

What stand and irons are you using?

Rickyisms wrote:
Pretty basic setup. A tusk stand w/ the bead breaker that my boss gave me, a couple of the cheaper motion pro irons and a tusk...

Pretty basic setup. A tusk stand w/ the bead breaker that my boss gave me, a couple of the cheaper motion pro irons and a tusk bead buddy. The only time I really have problems is dismounting old crusty tires. Just took off a set that was about 10 years old off the bike I just bought and had to get my dad for some extra hands. Need to invest in one of those really long irons, but other than that my setup is cheap and works for me. 

Thanks Ricky, I'll look into the tusk setup. I know the MP irons are a little more pricey, are they worth it?

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JK BRO
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4/13/2023 11:17am
McG194 wrote:

If they pinch a tube will they charge you for it? There are costs in doing business and everything is going up. 

JK BRO wrote:

If your tire guy is pinching tubes with a pneumatic machine then there's a problem. Pinching is normally an issue with tire irons.

McG194 wrote:

So, you want them to invest in heavy duty machinery and not pass the cost along? 

You call a pneumatic tire changer for a dirt bike "heavy machinery"? That's laughable.

If you take your tire to a shop then yes, it's always a pneumatic machine. I've never been to a shop that changes tires with irons for customers. 

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4/13/2023 11:18am

Jay Clark from Dirt Bike Tv has videos all the time.  It is not that hard to do.

 

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