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jemcee 3/20/2023 5:44pm
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So, my take. Smith was much faster in the whoops, but he was on the outside.  He did not make the pass.  Deegan was correct to...

So, my take.

Smith was much faster in the whoops, but he was on the outside.  He did not make the pass.  Deegan was correct to close the door.  There was nothing dirty about this. I believe literally everyone would've done the same thing.

In the next corner, Deegan waited for Smith, and let him by.  I don't know why.  Once again, Deegan had the inside.  He could've punted him, but he didn't.  Possibly he felt like he was a bit too aggressive in the previous corner, and wanted to make things right.  In my opinion, he should've simply raced forward.  He would've been ahead of Smith.

Once Smith went past him, it was time to race forward again.

This is where Smith screwed himself.

On the way to the next corner, If racing forward, Smith would've taken the inside line as there was no way for Deegan to pass him.  Instead, he slowed down, looked over his shoulder, then for no reason veered to the right, blocking Deegan, and not allowing either of them to progress.

Once Smith hit the throttle, Deegan cut to the inside and gave Smith a bump.  Dirty? No. It wasn't that hard.  Warranted? I believe so.

In the next corner Deegan was racing forward and in the race line.  Smith was not.  He was out for vengeance.  He went wide, and knocked Deegan's rear wheel into the air and over a foot or 2.  Deegan held his ground and somehow stayed on 2 wheels.

Smith went down because of his own actions.

The drama should've stopped after the first corner. Jordan did not make the pass.

The drama should've stopped after the second corner. Deegan let Jordan through.

After that, the drama was not going to end peacefully.  Both were pissed.  From what happened in this race, I don't think Jordan had a reason to be at all.  For Deegan, only slightly.

One thing for sure, Deegan isn't going to be pushed around, no matter what the credentials of the other riders.  To me, that's a good thing.

I hope they both learn from this.  One lesson Deegan should learn, is that he shouldn't have let Smith by.

My take

Agree on your first point

Second point, Deegan wasn't letting Smith by he knew Smith knew he was on the inside so he was blocking Smith from pivoting early and cutting under Deegan but Smith saw this and went around and Deegan couldn't get to the outside quick enough to block that..

Then Smith was trying to keep Deegan to the outside stop him going to the inside to block Smith or to make contact with him which he couldn't stop the bump wasn't dirty but was way too much for team mates and obviously there's 'beef' between the two

Smith did then screw himself by trying to beat Deegan to the inside of the next turn, but Smith never looked to have any intent at contact at any time..

The only thing I think should've happened is the first move the rest was silly.. Good fun with mates but racing in a SX not so much

I also think Deegan is throwing his weight around he knows he has the upper hand in that team he knows he's not getting dropped I can imagine there's a lot going on at the GOAT farm every week

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Motodragon 3/20/2023 6:49pm
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Nate Thrasher doesn’t look too stock having Heiden on the team. They did not even acknowledge each other after the race. It’s almost reminds of the Cooper Webb and Jeremy Martin days. 

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DrinkMoreWater 3/20/2023 6:52pm
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Yeah the night would have been a whole lot better is Smitty would have waited a couple turns and punted him into the cheap seats. Danger...

Yeah the night would have been a whole lot better is Smitty would have waited a couple turns and punted him into the cheap seats.

Danger Boy FTW!

You're opinion is your opinion and I respect that, pretty much 99% of journalist and analysts in the sport think it was on Smith which it was, your little jealous witchhunt on Deegan is looking very far reaching and childish.

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TalinH112 3/20/2023 7:03pm
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Motodragon wrote:
Nate Thrasher doesn’t look too stock having Heiden on the team. They did not even acknowledge each other after the race. It’s almost reminds of the...

Nate Thrasher doesn’t look too stock having Heiden on the team. They did not even acknowledge each other after the race. It’s almost reminds of the Cooper Webb and Jeremy Martin days. 

Why do these guys have to like each other? They’re all out there to win, HD said it himself. Doesn’t matter to him if it’s a heat or a main he wants to win. IMO Smiths probably a little butt hurt he’s a washed up has been on his last ride and this kid was in front of him. Only natural he wanted to take him out, but the pup had more fight in him than the old dog expected. To think Smith was still in this championship is laughable, so at that point he is just another guy out there. I don’t see how people are causing this big of a stink if this is happening between two non championship contenders. 🤷🏻 Hunter is the only one who need to worry about the championship, everyone else should just try and WIN everything they can cause I’m sure there is money in it. 

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MXant15 3/20/2023 7:21pm
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Haiden’s surfer laugh after every sentence I could live without. Everything else is entertaining and I enjoy watching a rookie frustrate the vets. I’m a fan.

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Bonanza69 wrote:

„Deegan waited in a corner to tbone ……..“,you sire are qualified for the paraolympics!

Juck wrote:

What was he doing then if he wasn't lining up a tbone?

WTF_M8 wrote:

This a T 

This is what happened    V

He was leading and then came almost to a complete stop on the inside of a corner to line up a tbone. The only reason it wasn't a T was because he fucked up the timing, and then he went for the takeout in the next corner anyway.

https://imgur.com/a/apdGrKG

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RCN4HIM 3/20/2023 9:06pm
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Our MX son started watching Danger Boy videos about 8 years ago and now with You Tube on everyone’s big screen, Mom and I kinda got sucked in ourselves for a few minutes a week or so for years. All I’ve heard is people touting how great of a dad Brian is…🤔

Between Haiden’s riding in the heat, followed by his immature behavior at the press conference… Father to Father, I say Brian needs to step up his game a bit!

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JT$ from Racer X Breakdown [quote]Jordan Smith and Haiden Deegan had a lively heat race, to say the least, with Smith going down and eventually...

JT$ from Racer X Breakdown

Jordan Smith and Haiden Deegan had a lively heat race, to say the least, with Smith going down and eventually pulling out of the heat. Take us through the on-track interchanges between the two, and whether or not you thought it was warranted. Were you surprised to it play out the way it did?

I was surprised, yes. This was only a qualifying heat race and that’s a very important thing to note. The goal here is to put yourself in the best possible position for the main event, promote your team and sponsors, and if available, win the race. Nowhere in that plan is a back-and-forth fracas with your teammate. Even worse, one that leaves a member of your own team on the ground.

The first move, exiting the whoops, was a bit aggressive for my taste but nothing to shout about. If that was the only move executed, I probably wonder if that was the best play but move on pretty quickly. The problem is when you enter the next turn, wait for your teammate, then try to pin him into the berm again. If that wasn’t enough, Haiden pulled the same move in the next turn, actually making hard contact this time. By my count, that’s three corners in a row where a teammate, at best, went for a block pass, and at worst, intended for contact on his teammate. That’s simply over the line in my book. I understand he, his family, and his legion of fans will disagree and that’s okay. I’m not out to talk poorly on him or anything like that. This is purely about analyzing the actions.

In the final encounter, Jordon got overly aggressive in his own right and tried to push Haiden out of the 90degree right hander. Jordon surely was seeing red by this point and should have taken the high road. He is a veteran and has to realize the situation doesn’t reward retaliation. He paid the price with his crash and all of the issues afterward. He is not blameless here but I do not believe he was looking for any sort of altercation whatsoever, either. Sometimes disengaging is the smarter path, especially in a race that doesn’t pay championship points.

I also wanted to mention that I struggled with Haiden’s take on the incident when asked in the press conference. Saying, "I wasn’t paying attention," is not really a valid response, in my opinion. The comments about "He’s [Smith] fifth in points," also didn’t resonate well with me, as at that point of the night, he was ahead of Haiden in the points chase and things looked much different. He didn’t seem to have any regret or remorse over the entire ordeal and I think that’s a miss. Haiden is only 17 years old and every experience is a great opportunity to learn. The only way to learn is to have some level of humility when things don’t go perfectly, though. He’s certainly entitled to think and say whatever he feels is appropriate, but I just felt like it was a lost opportunity to reflect on it, understand that maybe it could have been executed differently, and vow to add it to his list of learning moments.

Again, it’s very important to note he is still very young and it’s not fair to expect him to handle every situation perfectly. I know I certainly didn’t at that age, or at 27, or 37. I do think he has a chance to be a superstar in this sport and figuring out the nuances earlier will do nothing but help him.

Finally some reason on this whole sorry mess. Can we move on now?

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VRR7 3/21/2023 6:08am
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JS trying to take out HD front wheel like JB does - HD was just faster and stronger and stayed in front.  JS is a POS and deserves the results he got.  The rookie was wise to this move and prevailed.  Goodbye JS find another team to not deliver for again. 

 

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GrapeApe 3/21/2023 6:10am
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decano51 wrote:

perfectly said.

 

jonesaustin wrote:

no this is perfectly said right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjRYIBHrJTw

jonesaustin wrote:

please see link, it’s the final say on it and then let’s put this to bed. watch multiple times if you need to. case closed.

I don't have 15 minutes to watch a random guy on youtube give his .02.  What's his take away?

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VRR7 wrote:
JS trying to take out HD front wheel like JB does - HD was just faster and stronger and stayed in front.  JS is a POS...

JS trying to take out HD front wheel like JB does - HD was just faster and stronger and stayed in front.  JS is a POS and deserves the results he got.  The rookie was wise to this move and prevailed.  Goodbye JS find another team to not deliver for again. 

 

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I am a big Deegan fan but it is just bar banging. Let us stay classy. Insulting any rider is putting oil on fire which is not needed. It is just racing and both riders are fun to watch and can deliver results.

In all cases the east coast is bloody exciting to watch and I totally disagree with some comments about the west coast being stronger (or that the 250 class needs to be combined, 1. little to zero small teams, privateers or "normal" rookies would have the chance to make the main, 2. look at the attrition rate and count how many 250 riders would finish the 17 rounds. 3. 3 championships is better than 2).

Quick look on the east, and it is quite deep to crack the top 10 ;

- we have 3 mxdn winners (or mxdn potential winners, I don't remember if Vialle and Hunter won their categories, must have been close ; Anstie could also run with a prime Herlings on a good day. Vialle is also 2 times mx2 champ, there was no transfer like that since Roczen, Musquin and Pourcel, and only Musquin had 2 world titles as well),

- a 2 time outdoor champ with Martin (that could have won his category at the mxdn too, but broken foot),

- 1 championship runner up with Smith (versus Osborne, Savatgy and AC, not small calibers either), he is rebuilding and doing well except last race.

- 1 multiple race winner with Thrasher, could be next year's champ too, 

- of course Deegan who does very well, better than expected for a rookie, and with his huge and more mainstream following is like Pastrana back in the days.

- Blose: a very experienced rider that was scoring some top 5-8 on a semi privateer bike a couple year ago

- some heavy hitters that are missing, PC (Shimoda could give a run to Hunter, Hammaker) and Husky (Swoll)

- Mosiman who had probably a nagging injury but that was super fast the previous years (and was supposed to give a run to Hunter this year)

- Shock who run top 5 top 8 all summer in 450 a couple years ago. The phoenix honda boys are also fast. 

- etc

So, for me, the field this year is particularly tough and the east will as very often be upfront when combined during the nationals.

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jonesaustin 3/21/2023 7:49am
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jonesaustin wrote:

no this is perfectly said right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjRYIBHrJTw

jonesaustin wrote:

please see link, it’s the final say on it and then let’s put this to bed. watch multiple times if you need to. case closed.

GrapeApe wrote:

I don't have 15 minutes to watch a random guy on youtube give his .02.  What's his take away?

use earbuds and listen while you work 

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Kyle_McNab 3/21/2023 7:54am
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Lol a lot of people are salty for 17 year old. Y’all act like you didn’t say or do dumb things as a teenager. I like Jordan but he wasn’t exactly innocent either. Once the Lawrence bros move up deegan will be hard to beat. Imagine how much better and stronger he’ll be at 20. Kids got it and isn’t a pushover. 

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LungButter 3/21/2023 8:13am
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jonesaustin wrote:

use earbuds and listen while you work 

Great plan if you don't have to use your brain while your working.

Is that your YouTube channel and you're just fishing for views or what is stopping you from just giving a brief breakdown of what was said?

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GrapeApe 3/21/2023 8:22am
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jonesaustin wrote:

please see link, it’s the final say on it and then let’s put this to bed. watch multiple times if you need to. case closed.

GrapeApe wrote:

I don't have 15 minutes to watch a random guy on youtube give his .02.  What's his take away?

jonesaustin wrote:

use earbuds and listen while you work 

I own the company, I don't need to hide in the corner and use earbuds at work. I can watch whatever I want. I choose not to spend the next 15 minutes of my life listening to a long form opinion from a random guy when I can spend half that time reading dozens if not hundreds of other opinions from random people in Vital threads.

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NorCal1975 3/21/2023 8:41am
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Deegans pass back on Smith was aggressive for sure, but the reason Smith crashed was 100% his own fault IMO.  He ran right into the side of Deegans bike in a spot where there was no opportunity to pass him, at least not on that line.  So I put more blame on Smith than Deegan for the actual crash part of this whole deal.  Stupid riding in a heat race by both guys for sure and Smith should definitely know better. 

Deegan definitely should have had a better take on the situation in the interview after the race. That was awkward, lol    

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TbonesPop 3/21/2023 8:54am
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GrapeApe wrote:

I don't have 15 minutes to watch a random guy on youtube give his .02.  What's his take away?

jonesaustin wrote:

use earbuds and listen while you work 

GrapeApe wrote:
I own the company, I don't need to hide in the corner and use earbuds at work. I can watch whatever I want. I choose not...

I own the company, I don't need to hide in the corner and use earbuds at work. I can watch whatever I want. I choose not to spend the next 15 minutes of my life listening to a long form opinion from a random guy when I can spend half that time reading dozens if not hundreds of other opinions from random people in Vital threads.

Don't waste your time listening.  The guy is a tool.  I listened to 20 seconds, skipped forward 2-3 minutes, tried to listen another 30 seconds and came away thinking the guy was a complete tool.  He's just parroting what some other people think.  Not worth the time.

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whethefakawe 3/21/2023 10:22am
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Paul333 wrote:
Way too much arrogance, attitude, and self-induced drama for a so far only regional SX race podium guy. History is full of the "Next Superstar" who didn't...

Way too much arrogance, attitude, and self-induced drama for a so far only regional SX race podium guy. History is full of the "Next Superstar" who didn't live up to expectations. Things haven't gotten tough yet; no injuries, relatively easy success (Podium) in a 4-5 rider deep regional class, maybe best factory level bike, maybe best team/facility, full power of Monster's media machine hyping you, personal Monster sponsorship money, Daddy's money / industry influence help, etc, etc. 

It's obviously he has lot of growing up to do to avoid the curse of 250 SX guys who already believed they had made it. Wait until Dad can't control him anymore, prison Tat's, gangster rap video / social media influencer girlfriend, thinking a regional SX title means you have "Made It' already, idiot buddies' bad advice, 96-degree outdoor nationals going 8/12 for race after race, etc. 

That sums it up perfectly.

Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a million excuses why he didn't win more. He then stumbled into the new "freestyle" scene which was taking off, right place right time. He's got the IQ of chain lube, but a very sensitive nose for $$ and self-promotion, you gotta give him that. He was no better a racer that Twitch but they both became wealthy off the highschool-dropout pothead tat bros, like......... ain't America great? Even ditch-diggers can make it big Tongue

 

Brian Deegan is trying to win 'ships vicariously through his offspring, but it'll work out the same as it did for him. Look at all the hype about his daughter in NASCAR over the last 3 or 4 years........ turns oiut it's just white noise, all about "strong woman breaking a ceiling bla-bla-bla". She's just not good enough, like Daddy-O wasn't......and like little bro will turn out to be.  Case of PBR sez so.

 

Hype does not create substance.

 

"Dangerboy" (what a stupid nickname, sounds like a Ken doll wearing camo and guns) hasn't faced the reality of pro MX and SX yet, he's racing in a class that has one guy who leaves everybody in the dust. The 250s this year is SLIM, both E and W, they should have made it one series, haven't seen two fields this shallow in YEARS. Wait till he gets hurt properly a few times, we'll see how "dangerous" he is. 

 

Yes, we have no bananas.....I've never liked Deegan or his freestyle goober gang, they are the crowd that give dirtbikers a bad image and cause Joe Citizen to push their bought-and-paid-for local politicians to close down riding areas. They do some amazing things nowadays, but it's just stunts, NOTHING to do with MX/SX. Deegan is all about HYPE and $$, no substance.

 

The Deegans will turn into the Alessis of the 2020s, watch.  And Dangerkitty will get educated soon......... freestyle anyone?  

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whethefakawe 3/21/2023 10:31am
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That said -- Smith came close but crashed away several 'ships a few years ago, he's just pocketing coin now for as long as he can. Never quite made it. Bummer for him, but his racing career will be a blueprint for Deegan Jr's. Case of Schlitz sez so. 

 

Teammates taking each other out in a heat race is just ......dumb. Star is one of the top teams, so this one's a freebie but if it happens again I bet someone's gonna get a swift kick in the nutsack.  

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stiksandstones 3/21/2023 11:23am
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Can we get Barcia, Deegan and Friese on the same team please?

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HonDawg17 3/21/2023 1:15pm
3/21/2023 1:15pm

It hasn't even been his first full season...and I'm already sick of hearing about this kid.

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LungButter 3/21/2023 1:17pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:

It hasn't even been his first full season...and I'm already sick of hearing about this kid.

Gonna be a long 10 years for you bud. Tongue

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DonM 3/21/2023 1:21pm
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Paul333 wrote:
Way too much arrogance, attitude, and self-induced drama for a so far only regional SX race podium guy. History is full of the "Next Superstar" who didn't...

Way too much arrogance, attitude, and self-induced drama for a so far only regional SX race podium guy. History is full of the "Next Superstar" who didn't live up to expectations. Things haven't gotten tough yet; no injuries, relatively easy success (Podium) in a 4-5 rider deep regional class, maybe best factory level bike, maybe best team/facility, full power of Monster's media machine hyping you, personal Monster sponsorship money, Daddy's money / industry influence help, etc, etc. 

It's obviously he has lot of growing up to do to avoid the curse of 250 SX guys who already believed they had made it. Wait until Dad can't control him anymore, prison Tat's, gangster rap video / social media influencer girlfriend, thinking a regional SX title means you have "Made It' already, idiot buddies' bad advice, 96-degree outdoor nationals going 8/12 for race after race, etc. 

whethefakawe wrote:
That sums it up perfectly. Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a...

That sums it up perfectly.

Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a million excuses why he didn't win more. He then stumbled into the new "freestyle" scene which was taking off, right place right time. He's got the IQ of chain lube, but a very sensitive nose for $$ and self-promotion, you gotta give him that. He was no better a racer that Twitch but they both became wealthy off the highschool-dropout pothead tat bros, like......... ain't America great? Even ditch-diggers can make it big Tongue

 

Brian Deegan is trying to win 'ships vicariously through his offspring, but it'll work out the same as it did for him. Look at all the hype about his daughter in NASCAR over the last 3 or 4 years........ turns oiut it's just white noise, all about "strong woman breaking a ceiling bla-bla-bla". She's just not good enough, like Daddy-O wasn't......and like little bro will turn out to be.  Case of PBR sez so.

 

Hype does not create substance.

 

"Dangerboy" (what a stupid nickname, sounds like a Ken doll wearing camo and guns) hasn't faced the reality of pro MX and SX yet, he's racing in a class that has one guy who leaves everybody in the dust. The 250s this year is SLIM, both E and W, they should have made it one series, haven't seen two fields this shallow in YEARS. Wait till he gets hurt properly a few times, we'll see how "dangerous" he is. 

 

Yes, we have no bananas.....I've never liked Deegan or his freestyle goober gang, they are the crowd that give dirtbikers a bad image and cause Joe Citizen to push their bought-and-paid-for local politicians to close down riding areas. They do some amazing things nowadays, but it's just stunts, NOTHING to do with MX/SX. Deegan is all about HYPE and $$, no substance.

 

The Deegans will turn into the Alessis of the 2020s, watch.  And Dangerkitty will get educated soon......... freestyle anyone?  

You could of saved a lot of time by just typing I hate the Deegans....

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GrapeApe 3/21/2023 1:33pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:

It hasn't even been his first full season...and I'm already sick of hearing about this kid.

Then why did you start this thread?

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Farmer J 3/21/2023 1:56pm
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Paul333 wrote:
Way too much arrogance, attitude, and self-induced drama for a so far only regional SX race podium guy. History is full of the "Next Superstar" who didn't...

Way too much arrogance, attitude, and self-induced drama for a so far only regional SX race podium guy. History is full of the "Next Superstar" who didn't live up to expectations. Things haven't gotten tough yet; no injuries, relatively easy success (Podium) in a 4-5 rider deep regional class, maybe best factory level bike, maybe best team/facility, full power of Monster's media machine hyping you, personal Monster sponsorship money, Daddy's money / industry influence help, etc, etc. 

It's obviously he has lot of growing up to do to avoid the curse of 250 SX guys who already believed they had made it. Wait until Dad can't control him anymore, prison Tat's, gangster rap video / social media influencer girlfriend, thinking a regional SX title means you have "Made It' already, idiot buddies' bad advice, 96-degree outdoor nationals going 8/12 for race after race, etc. 

whethefakawe wrote:
That sums it up perfectly. Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a...

That sums it up perfectly.

Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a million excuses why he didn't win more. He then stumbled into the new "freestyle" scene which was taking off, right place right time. He's got the IQ of chain lube, but a very sensitive nose for $$ and self-promotion, you gotta give him that. He was no better a racer that Twitch but they both became wealthy off the highschool-dropout pothead tat bros, like......... ain't America great? Even ditch-diggers can make it big Tongue

 

Brian Deegan is trying to win 'ships vicariously through his offspring, but it'll work out the same as it did for him. Look at all the hype about his daughter in NASCAR over the last 3 or 4 years........ turns oiut it's just white noise, all about "strong woman breaking a ceiling bla-bla-bla". She's just not good enough, like Daddy-O wasn't......and like little bro will turn out to be.  Case of PBR sez so.

 

Hype does not create substance.

 

"Dangerboy" (what a stupid nickname, sounds like a Ken doll wearing camo and guns) hasn't faced the reality of pro MX and SX yet, he's racing in a class that has one guy who leaves everybody in the dust. The 250s this year is SLIM, both E and W, they should have made it one series, haven't seen two fields this shallow in YEARS. Wait till he gets hurt properly a few times, we'll see how "dangerous" he is. 

 

Yes, we have no bananas.....I've never liked Deegan or his freestyle goober gang, they are the crowd that give dirtbikers a bad image and cause Joe Citizen to push their bought-and-paid-for local politicians to close down riding areas. They do some amazing things nowadays, but it's just stunts, NOTHING to do with MX/SX. Deegan is all about HYPE and $$, no substance.

 

The Deegans will turn into the Alessis of the 2020s, watch.  And Dangerkitty will get educated soon......... freestyle anyone?  

DonM wrote:

You could of saved a lot of time by just typing I hate the Deegans....

Thanks Don. You just made me $20. I knew it wouldn't be long before you were here to quote his comment. 

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DonM 3/21/2023 2:03pm
3/21/2023 2:03pm
whethefakawe wrote:
That sums it up perfectly. Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a...

That sums it up perfectly.

Deegan Sr. was a 125 (250s today) "top 5 XYZ Coast" rider at best, who won ONE race but had a million excuses why he didn't win more. He then stumbled into the new "freestyle" scene which was taking off, right place right time. He's got the IQ of chain lube, but a very sensitive nose for $$ and self-promotion, you gotta give him that. He was no better a racer that Twitch but they both became wealthy off the highschool-dropout pothead tat bros, like......... ain't America great? Even ditch-diggers can make it big Tongue

 

Brian Deegan is trying to win 'ships vicariously through his offspring, but it'll work out the same as it did for him. Look at all the hype about his daughter in NASCAR over the last 3 or 4 years........ turns oiut it's just white noise, all about "strong woman breaking a ceiling bla-bla-bla". She's just not good enough, like Daddy-O wasn't......and like little bro will turn out to be.  Case of PBR sez so.

 

Hype does not create substance.

 

"Dangerboy" (what a stupid nickname, sounds like a Ken doll wearing camo and guns) hasn't faced the reality of pro MX and SX yet, he's racing in a class that has one guy who leaves everybody in the dust. The 250s this year is SLIM, both E and W, they should have made it one series, haven't seen two fields this shallow in YEARS. Wait till he gets hurt properly a few times, we'll see how "dangerous" he is. 

 

Yes, we have no bananas.....I've never liked Deegan or his freestyle goober gang, they are the crowd that give dirtbikers a bad image and cause Joe Citizen to push their bought-and-paid-for local politicians to close down riding areas. They do some amazing things nowadays, but it's just stunts, NOTHING to do with MX/SX. Deegan is all about HYPE and $$, no substance.

 

The Deegans will turn into the Alessis of the 2020s, watch.  And Dangerkitty will get educated soon......... freestyle anyone?  

DonM wrote:

You could of saved a lot of time by just typing I hate the Deegans....

Farmer J wrote:

Thanks Don. You just made me $20. I knew it wouldn't be long before you were here to quote his comment. 

No problem always happy to help someone that bets with themselves....

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HonDawg17 3/21/2023 2:46pm
3/21/2023 2:46pm
HonDawg17 wrote:

It hasn't even been his first full season...and I'm already sick of hearing about this kid.

GrapeApe wrote:

Then why did you start this thread?

Because I like stirring the pot my friend.

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