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I do think the reorganization will bring more bikes and off road vehicles to the market.
Most major car company executives will not like the ideas.
The big step that I'm positive about is that Suzuki is presenting the RM boot camps which shows they are still excited and still willing to promote their off road lineups. Hopefully the team they have can help develop a new bike.
A new Suzuki doesn't need electric start. How many years have motocross bikes had a kick starter and never was a problem.
They need to focus on the fine tuning of suspension and finding ways to shave some weight and pick up some power and the new bike would be just as competitive.
The biggest goal is to keep it as the cheapest competitive bike on the market and funnel some more money into racer support like KTM and Kawasaki do. Get more bikes on track and get more feedback on what changes they need to do.
Suzuki needs to bring back the 125 and 250 2T.
How about being the first big manufacturer to bring an eMX?
Your coment just shows how ignorant you are
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You made your point,dont buy one,anyway nobody cares
Meh. I honestly couldn’t care less about e bikes
You have to excuse 434...he suffers from delusions of grandeur.... lol
Considering the continued popularity of two strokes and the KTM family investing so much into them, it would be nice to see the other Japanese manufacturers bring them back based on their old/proven platforms. However, they have to keep the cost down, like Yamaha has. I saw an $11000.00 (retail, prep, freight) Husky two-stroke sitting on the dealer floor a few weeks back. That's just freaking insane.
If Suzuki brought back old forms of RM125 & RM250 for $6299 and $7299 respectively… man they would crush
I would be on the waiting list first thing for a 250. I’ve always wanted a RM250
I just did a re-fresh on my 03 RM125. I have an 04 250. They are just flat out fun bikes to ride. I will never part with them. I have been a Suzuki fan since my teens. I worked at a Suzuki shop in El Cajon in the 80's. I don't believe your wish will come true unfortunately. Even TP had to move on some time ago. To quote Journey, " Don't Stop Believin' ".
IMO Suzuki factory has been working a fresh new design and 2024 would be the time to release it to catch up with the rest of its competition. E start and lighter weight would be a jump in the right direction
Delusional, maybe. But the RM250 is literally a 20 year old bike! Who would buy that?
Come on! Suzuki needs to invest in Moto, doesn’t matter if it’s in 2t, 4t or eMX, otherwise they will die. I know we old farts have a weak spot in your heart for yellow, but do you think an 18 year old would spent his money on such an outdated bike? A cheaper price goes only so far..
6000 bucks for a 20 year old bike? Sure.. they‘d sell about as many as they sell 450s now.
If only the Consumer Reports were true and they didn't change up their established testing trying to get it to specifically roll over. Even when it didn't, they said it was very likely to roll. They also never stated that they changed the test, only for testing 2 Suzuki vehicles, then reverted back to how they always did it.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-90s-scandal-consumer-reports-hopes-you…
Suzuki has all the pieces , but no will to do so , they have shut down their entire worldwide racing programmes road and mx
they don’t even list rmz ‘s in their Nz website anymore
@ 434
Who would buy?…the same people who were buying outdated Yamaha 2Ts.
Yamaha sells a 20 year old bike for like 7800. And they sell plenty.
My mind immediately thought the same thing. Maybe it’s not as obvious to some?
The YZ just got an update in 22 (new brake and sus setup). It’s an old bike, but has a new body work, looks modern, has probably the best stock suspension and is actually being raced.
How many YZs are being sold? Does anybody have the numbers? It’s not big number, they do one production run per year.
Do you think that would keep Suzuki MX afloat? How many 6000 bucks RMs would they have to sell to pay Kenny’s win bonus from last week?
I stand by it: either they invest in bike development or they will go the path of maico, bultaco….! Which would suck!
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It was a joke you simpleton.
I read somewhere Yamaha sells about 1000 YZ250s a year.
The 125 was a great bike 1990 to 07. I like my 92 it was so easy to ride. The 98 was my favorite very similar to a 97 cr. With the bill,s pipe porting, carb bore, pipe, silencer, carbon tech reeds it was pretty fast but in the rough I cart wheeled that bike a lot. 01 with hgs pipe& silencer, fmf ignition, srs piston, carbon tech reeds it was much faster. But handling was horrible. My 04 cr125 engine is a lot stronger& handles a million times better. And doesn’t feel wore out after 10 hrs. Rm frames r too soft. I was going to buy a 06 RM 125 changed my mind at the dealer. And left with the 04 cr125 smartest thing I ever did. The 450 seems like it was made in 6 diff countries. You get on it & look down to see what just fell off. The 250f is a little better feeling bike.
More than I thought!
So do you guys think that 1000 RM250s per year would cut it for Suzuki? How much margin would there be if they‘d sell them for 7000 $?
It’s not about selling 1000 two strokes a year. It’s about getting people over to your brand. If I ride an RM250, maybe I’ll be more likely to get a yellow 250f or 450 when the time comes.
Brand loyalty….Suzuki still has some of it. Updating the 85 would be another good idea to get kids on yellow and create that bond
By now they are not going anywhere and if they did it wouldnt be for reasons,bultaco or Maico or what ever brand did
They have the funds
Large companies will take a hit in sales to keep from spending R&D. It’s just the way it is. I retired from a large industrial tech firm, 38 Billion. They could have spent 30k to fix a SW issue in Batch SW but chose to take a 1.5 million hit at a local operational level and no telling what the loss in sales were. It’s just the way things are.
Then what’s their strategy? What are they doing with their top engineers if they don’t develop any high performance and racing motorcycles? Do you think those guys wait around sweeping the shop floors until the management decides it’s time to develop a race bike again? No, they leave and with them all the knowledge… that’s the sad truth.
So you want them to sell a 20 year old bike for cheap to promote their 10 year old bike and another 20 year old kids bike ? I don’t think brand loyalty goes that far.
I agree plus their 2 stroke would get annihilated in a shootout against the KTM and the YZ so they would have to mark them down to $5k to move them.
I didn’t say promote. Promoting would be fielding a factory team again.
The 2006 RM was a copy of the YZ (but with a steel frame) and won the MXA shootout between them. The YZ is the same as it was then. And Yamaha still sells plenty of them at 7k
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