#1: MXGP of Patagonia-Argentina - March 11-12

scott_nz wrote:

If you ever get a chance to go to this gp go, the track and the whole area are amazing , and the food they sell...

If you ever get a chance to go to this gp go, the track and the whole area are amazing , and the food they sell at the track  is worth the. Trip alone 

creature654 wrote:

Seewer gives funny/interesting interviews, but let’s be real here, there is absolutely no shot this guy gets a title. I feel he is being overhyped as...

Seewer gives funny/interesting interviews, but let’s be real here, there is absolutely no shot this guy gets a title. I feel he is being overhyped as a legit contender. In the MXGP pod, Lewis asked of the group of Herlings, Prado, Seewer, Renaux, and Febvre, who drops out from championship contention first?(or something along those lines) and I think the answer is obvious. The only guy in that group who’s not a proven champion, the only guy who hasn’t really ran out front when everyone else is healthy, Jeremy Seewer. I feel he is a lot like Barcia, blinding speed at times, he’ll be there to collect podiums when others go down, but unless all 4 of the other title guys go down with injuries he’ll finish about 5th overall…which is fine, he’s an amazing rider, but when I hear people putting him in the title conversation I just think there’s no basis for that.

LewisPhillips wrote:

I guess I have three points in reply to that... 1) From Ernee last year, he almost matched Gajser on points. That was only nine rounds...

I guess I have three points in reply to that...

1) From Ernee last year, he almost matched Gajser on points. That was only nine rounds, sure, but I think it means something.

2) Second in the points five times means something. I don't think he's ever been second through pure luck (apart from 2019)...

3) Is Prado better than Seewer at his peak? Probably, but that's been missing for a while. The same goes for Febvre.

creature654 wrote:

I feel like when Tim had that big of a championship lead, even if he won’t admit it, he was riding conservative. Jeremy was good to...

I feel like when Tim had that big of a championship lead, even if he won’t admit it, he was riding conservative. Jeremy was good to end the year, but the championship was long gone, and he still only got 3 wins. The field was weakened and there’s a couple guys who got wins last year that I highly doubt will again this year.

Getting 2nd over and over is a huge accomplishment yes, but every time it was a HUGELY distant 2nd and other major contenders went down with injury.

The last time Prado and Febvre were fully healthy in 2021, they were head and shoulders above Jeremy, firmly in the title fight. Both riders are proven champions, and Renaux is poised to get right in there with them this year.  

This being a contract year for Jeremy, let’s hope he can be a legit threat all the way through. But I predict this season will be like the others, over 70 points behind the leader at least by seasons end.

LewisPhillips wrote:

I guess I have three points in reply to that... 1) From Ernee last year, he almost matched Gajser on points. That was only nine rounds...

I guess I have three points in reply to that...

1) From Ernee last year, he almost matched Gajser on points. That was only nine rounds, sure, but I think it means something.

2) Second in the points five times means something. I don't think he's ever been second through pure luck (apart from 2019)...

3) Is Prado better than Seewer at his peak? Probably, but that's been missing for a while. The same goes for Febvre.

creature654 wrote:

I feel like when Tim had that big of a championship lead, even if he won’t admit it, he was riding conservative. Jeremy was good to...

I feel like when Tim had that big of a championship lead, even if he won’t admit it, he was riding conservative. Jeremy was good to end the year, but the championship was long gone, and he still only got 3 wins. The field was weakened and there’s a couple guys who got wins last year that I highly doubt will again this year.

Getting 2nd over and over is a huge accomplishment yes, but every time it was a HUGELY distant 2nd and other major contenders went down with injury.

The last time Prado and Febvre were fully healthy in 2021, they were head and shoulders above Jeremy, firmly in the title fight. Both riders are proven champions, and Renaux is poised to get right in there with them this year.  

This being a contract year for Jeremy, let’s hope he can be a legit threat all the way through. But I predict this season will be like the others, over 70 points behind the leader at least by seasons end.

LewisPhillips wrote:

On your point about Febvre and Prado in 2021, it's only fair to say that Seewer had Epstein Barr all year and was not good. The...

On your point about Febvre and Prado in 2021, it's only fair to say that Seewer had Epstein Barr all year and was not good.

The reason he was a distant second last year was because of how he started. It'll be a good sign if he comes out firing today.

JOLS95 wrote:

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi...

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi KTM closed, 

bowl wrote:

Prado or renaux the ones that need to step up  if anybody going to stop the 84.

Is fevbre 100 % ?

crusty_xx wrote:

Is this the first time they have a separate practice for wildcards?

bowl wrote:

Prado or renaux the ones that need to step up  if anybody going to stop the 84.

Is fevbre 100 % ?

southeast wrote:

The only guy to challenge 84 has gotten hurt. If Herlings can pace himself and not try to be the fastest all the time theres nobody...

The only guy to challenge 84 has gotten hurt. If Herlings can pace himself and not try to be the fastest all the time theres nobody in the GPs that will challenge him.

crusty_xx wrote:

Is this the first time they have a separate practice for wildcards?

Elliot wrote:

As far as I know but it was only for the MXGP class as MX2 was all together. Maybe there's a rule to separate them if...

As far as I know but it was only for the MXGP class as MX2 was all together. Maybe there's a rule to separate them if there are over 40 entries in a given class.

Juck wrote:

Evans 4.3 off 😬

JOLS95 wrote:

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi...

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi KTM closed, 

THE mx addict wrote:

Lewis, any news about Gifting's plan for 2023 season ?

JOLS95 wrote:

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi...

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi KTM closed, 

THE mx addict wrote:

Lewis, any news about Gifting's plan for 2023 season ?

LewisPhillips wrote:

KTM will find room for him as soon as there is an injury – they were already trying to house him somewhere. I believe JWR talked to...

KTM will find room for him as soon as there is an injury – they were already trying to house him somewhere.

I believe JWR talked to him about a 450F seat, but he said no. I'd bet that he ends up there in 2024 though.

 

studworx wrote:

Herlings that fast this early is amazing

Juck wrote:

I think Gajser is better than Prado but in my opinion Gajser hasn't challenged Herlings much, whereas Prado definitely has

JOLS95 wrote:

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi...

Anyone know what Isak Gifting is going to do? Has he find any deal? He won’t line up in Argentina.. That’s for sure. Sad that Hitachi KTM closed, 

THE mx addict wrote:

Lewis, any news about Gifting's plan for 2023 season ?