Blair and RC not doing their job

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2/20/2023 11:54am
I agree on the point of of the ENTIRETY of the broadcast just continuously being bad.  However, IMO I dont really care how RC sounds, its...

I agree on the point of of the ENTIRETY of the broadcast just continuously being bad. 

However, IMO I dont really care how RC sounds, its more about what he says. He was a bad MF and I don't really care how good or bad his grammar is, its more about WHAT he is trying to say. Thats why I think Stew is so good. Whenever he points things out its always very insightful, even if his grammar or sentence structure is bad. I really dont care. I honestly wish RC would loosen up a little and just talk like he would talk to his buddy in the pits or whatever. Stop being afraid to say shit in the thought of maybe offending a rider or sponsor whatever. Who cares? Hes the GOAT for a reason, want to know what he thinks. 

I think the color guy needs to be much more refined and have all of the attributes we would expect from a professional broadcaster. Blair is ok. Don't dislike him at all dont really think hes great, hes kind of generic. But W/E he gets the job done. 

JT on the floor is outstanding. This role fits him perfectly and he is doing a fantastic job at it. He says things that aren't just filler bullshit and is not afraid to give his opinion. 

 

The problem is RC doesn't actually say anything insightful......that's why Stew was so amazing because he did.  All RC says is inside/outside, he needs to follow and learn, and that he hated being the one leading in a battle.  He literally offers nothing of value.  I really listened this week trying to find a positive and was not able to.  He was the absolute best, but a terrible commentator/analyst.  The reason we care is this is the absolute highest level and I cannot believe NBC allows this on their network.  I feel the same way about AMA timing on the TV being wrong half the time, the hotshot BS, and the Race Day Live debacle of showing the wrong riders half the time.......BUT I love that we get top watch it live and the issues are minor in the grand scheme of things.....but easily corrected.  

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2/20/2023 1:55pm

Blair is by far the best guy we have but he has a tough job carrying Ricky on his shoulder.  DB has what 4 rounds under his belt and already crushing it.  I just don’t think nbc realize Ricky sucks and how good DB is so I’m sure we will have many Lee/Ricky shit shows in the future.  

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My favorite weekly reminder “Ac9 is just building every week ..HE IS JUST BUILDING LAPS EVERY WEEK,The speed is there but he needs to build laps” Every damn weekend they remind us! Hahahaha Where’s Emig and Ralph ? Hahahaha 

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2/20/2023 4:04pm

 Will C. the screech is just absolutley horrible and offers nothing at all. Sub par announcing team just babbles retread drivel most the time. Watching the race's on mute brings clearity to the whole race for me.

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2/20/2023 4:54pm

I love when the heat or the main starts and RC has to throw it down to Will before the first 2 laps are completed. Now tell me what inside information she has that could not have been said before the race started. They try to hard to get 4 people involved in the show. Instead of focusing on the action on the track. 

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2/20/2023 9:42pm

Screw you guys! I miss Ralph telling us what color the bikes are all the time! The announcers have always done a good enough job. My nod goes to Langston because he got f-ed over by what Ronnie Mac would call "commie bastards". Maybe you sore bungholes should apply to announce the races, or mute it and make a YouTube video showing us all how it's done. I find this funny. If you don't, I find that funny too.

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2/20/2023 9:51pm

You guys listen to Ricky?  Ever since he took over, I put the TV on mute and put on music like a 90s moto vid.  

The blood runs RED! 

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Screw you guys! I miss Ralph telling us what color the bikes are all the time! The announcers have always done a good enough job. My...

Screw you guys! I miss Ralph telling us what color the bikes are all the time! The announcers have always done a good enough job. My nod goes to Langston because he got f-ed over by what Ronnie Mac would call "commie bastards". Maybe you sore bungholes should apply to announce the races, or mute it and make a YouTube video showing us all how it's done. I find this funny. If you don't, I find that funny too.

You’re a real funny guy … 

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The modern golden era 😎 Flame on, idc.
Ralph brought the energy, Jeff balanced him out and I liked his insight. 

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Kelz87 wrote:
The modern golden era 😎 Flame on, idc. Ralph brought the energy, Jeff balanced him out and I liked his insight. 

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The modern golden era 😎 Flame on, idc.
Ralph brought the energy, Jeff balanced him out and I liked his insight. 

I liked Fro. Ralph was a high end Dan Hubbard. 

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2/21/2023 3:27am

I don’t mind Blair in the box, but he’s awesome as the trackside reporter.
Best call so far this year was with Diffey, RC and Stew together.

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2/21/2023 6:01am
Replace RC and Blair with James Stewart and David Pingree.  Stew has great insight and is not biased toward one rider.  Pingree also is not biased...

Replace RC and Blair with James Stewart and David Pingree.  Stew has great insight and is not biased toward one rider.  Pingree also is not biased toward one rider and can see things developing.   

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Ping tee not bias. That’s rich.    RC is terrible. There were hardly any 90 degree corners on that track and he kept talking about them...

Ping tee not bias. That’s rich. 
 

RC is terrible. There were hardly any 90 degree corners on that track and he kept talking about them. They don’t analyze the race, at all. Why they don’t break down segment times is beyond me. For example. Sexton clearly had an advantage in the first segment but Eli seemed to be quicker on the others. Why they don’t actually use the tools they have to better explain the race is beyond me. 

I say this every week, but the fact that the leaderboard doesn't show lap times absolutely blows my mind.

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2/21/2023 5:53pm

Blair does a very good job on RDL. He takes his job seriously and is super professional. But I think to be a race announcer requires the ability to ramp up the excitement using the tone of your voice. Diffey is great. Ralph was great too. Weege also. Blair just doesn't have the tonal qualities to create that energy.

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str8line wrote:
Blair does a very good job on RDL. He takes his job seriously and is super professional. But I think to be a race announcer requires...

Blair does a very good job on RDL. He takes his job seriously and is super professional. But I think to be a race announcer requires the ability to ramp up the excitement using the tone of your voice. Diffey is great. Ralph was great too. Weege also. Blair just doesn't have the tonal qualities to create that energy.

I called In to pulp show about this last nite and asked them why we havent seen one hot lap yet thru 6 rounds  so far on race day live and don’t think  they liked  it too much but  Brayton  agreed that they definately need to show us more heaters as that’s what we are supposed to be seeing!!!

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str8line wrote:
Blair does a very good job on RDL. He takes his job seriously and is super professional. But I think to be a race announcer requires...

Blair does a very good job on RDL. He takes his job seriously and is super professional. But I think to be a race announcer requires the ability to ramp up the excitement using the tone of your voice. Diffey is great. Ralph was great too. Weege also. Blair just doesn't have the tonal qualities to create that energy.

Shaned9326 wrote:
I called In to pulp show about this last nite and asked them why we havent seen one hot lap yet thru 6 rounds  so far...

I called In to pulp show about this last nite and asked them why we havent seen one hot lap yet thru 6 rounds  so far on race day live and don’t think  they liked  it too much but  Brayton  agreed that they definately need to show us more heaters as that’s what we are supposed to be seeing!!!

Great question and just like politicians they never answered. Like you said at least JB said they could improve vs Weege who basically said it can’t be done any better than the status quo

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2/21/2023 10:09pm

Eckman and Bailey was the last time it was good for Supercross.

Weege and Langston nailed it outdoors.

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2/21/2023 10:54pm Edited Date/Time 2/21/2023 10:56pm
plowboy wrote:
Pretty sure Lewis uses the fast lane all the time. I agree with having someone in the booth that's "calling" the race.  Let Ricky add any...

Pretty sure Lewis uses the fast lane all the time.

I agree with having someone in the booth that's "calling" the race.  Let Ricky add any color needed.  Banter is cool but not when it interferes with calling the race.

As others have said...Malin "calls" the race.  He also shines at the color but let's be honest...that's a rare talent.

Edit...I really, really think that Brayton and AC would be phenomenal in the booth.  Tell me I'm wrong.

 

I like Brayton but he speaks with less enthusiasm than even David Bailey did, and that's a tall task. Also why is everybody all over AC's jock? He sounds and acts like a dork and his wish.com Pastrana shtick is lame. What's he have insight on? Honestly? 'This reminds of when I was feeling real good at "insert a track" and then a few laps in I ate shit.' 

Dream broadcasting team would be Art Eckman, Bubba, and Fro. Then some hot chick with an American accent as the pit reporter.

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Don't care who is in the boot, they are all "ok", just give me more of an analyze for slower/faster laptimes, segment times, who will be catching who if they keep it up etc. Did Webb set a faster segment time doing the quad chasing Sexton and Tomac? No one knows!

That's it. Not a big job or change.

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I like Brayton but he speaks with less enthusiasm than even David Bailey did, and that's a tall task. Also why is everybody all over AC's...

I like Brayton but he speaks with less enthusiasm than even David Bailey did, and that's a tall task. Also why is everybody all over AC's jock? He sounds and acts like a dork and his wish.com Pastrana shtick is lame. What's he have insight on? Honestly? 'This reminds of when I was feeling real good at "insert a track" and then a few laps in I ate shit.' 

Dream broadcasting team would be Art Eckman, Bubba, and Fro. Then some hot chick with an American accent as the pit reporter.

There are a lot of very different American accents …. do you have particular preference ? 

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I'm entertained while watching the races, and I have no idea how hard their jobs are.

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2/22/2023 3:35am Edited Date/Time 2/22/2023 3:37am
eddie wrote:

There are a lot of very different American accents …. do you have particular preference ? 

Not particularly. Just one where I can understand what they're saying and my dog doesn't wake up from a sound sleep, cock his head sideways in confusion at the tv as the chick who talks funny rambles incoherently. Even better a girl who looks like a prime Natalie Portman that uses sign language to include everybody watching the broadcast in what stupid shit she overheard in the pits that day. 

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No complaints from me, besides the crash reels / earlier in the day interviews and clips being played over live, in progress racing... That is a dick move.

The whole team is doing as they are told, given their job description, but I agree the production folks need a firmer grip on the roles of the live action commentary and the colour commentary, and the former with legit race analysis as it happens absolutely needs to take priority and sharpen up a little.

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Never be another pair like them. RC, Blair, Ralph, and Diffy couldn't carry Art's jock strap.

Stew and Emig would be the best combo we could hope for now.

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2/22/2023 9:40pm

I like RC, I think he's doing a good job.

They should get Paul Malin on there though. Best commentator by far.

 

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2/22/2023 11:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2023 11:13pm

Paul Malin is the best currently, David Bailey was the best in the past imo. What these 2 did (and do) well was technical analysis but also story building - getting into the psychology of situation beyond the usual "So n so's been working really hard and is expecting a win sooner rather than later" etc.

 

RC does have some good moments, though James Stewart has a lot more. For example his take last week on Thrasher potentially breaking Hunter (or vice versa) depending on what happened over the next couple of laps... That's good stuff and interesting to the viewer (or at least to me) in regard to the on-track dynamics of the riders and how the race may unfold very shortly and why.

 

Go re-watch A3 from 2001. David isn't just regulated to "Ricky's taking this line" or "doing that section better" etc. A good deal of the time he's into the psychology of what is happening, before our eyes, between Ricky and Jeremy - recognizing that, even though it's still early in the season with plenty of points left on the table, that something more fundamental is transpiring between the 2 riders at this moment, that Ricky is essentially breaking the game, he's taking Jeremy's belief. In a slow, considered delivery: "I believe he needs this win Art... He really needs this win...". The same race covered today would likely miss all of this and just be about how much time RC has made up.

 

Lastly, I'm not saying Ricky's terrible or that it's easy, or that he can't improve, or that people don't have off days and that you can please everyone all of the time. But I do believe the above standard should be loosely aimed at.

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2/23/2023 3:45am Edited Date/Time 2/23/2023 3:46am

Just my worthless opinion, but I think the producers and Feld both know exactly what they are doing.  And they are doing a fair job of it.

You and I are almost certainly going to watch SX no matter how "bad" the commentating is.

So, they are not designing the commentating, or the program for that matter, to please us.  They design the show to attract and retain new viewers.  They already have us, and are unlikely to lose us, so they focus on the casual viewer.  The casual (non racer maybe infrequent rider) viewers, like many "spectators", are interested in drama and statistics...

Last weekend I got the exact same feeling watching the SX broadcast that I got watching NASCAR about 30 years ago.  After my first negative NASCAR viewing they continued to grow their numbers but started to lose their soul.

Luckily for us, we can still find a local track to go watch some good racing! Usually I find it in the 50cc and 85cc classes or the money moto at a regional arenacross!

 

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2/23/2023 9:40am

Maybe they could bring in Malin before MXGP starts to give them some training? Cool

Seriously the Peacock broadcast is not geared to the enthusiast. They will pay and you don’t tip the scales on any decision making for the production. 
MXGP is for the enthusiast. No commercials, all Moto, top production value. 

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Kelz87 wrote:
The modern golden era 😎 Flame on, idc. Ralph brought the energy, Jeff balanced him out and I liked his insight. 

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The modern golden era 😎 Flame on, idc.
Ralph brought the energy, Jeff balanced him out and I liked his insight. 

cwel11 wrote:

I liked Fro. Ralph was a high end Dan Hubbard. 

Fro didn’t use pseudo-enthusiasm in attempt to create excitement. I think if RC toned it down a notch, he wouldn’t stumble on sentences as often 

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The major problem is that they never look to anyone who wasn’t a pro to be the analyst. It’s an issue in every single sport. If you weren’t a pro, you can’t be a color announcer for that sport. It’s silly and it drastically reduces the pool of candidates you could hire. Just because someone didn’t have the talent or opportunities to make it to the pro level doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be an amazing color analyst. I’m betting there’s people on this forum who never went pro who could watch and analyze the race and riders better than the former pros they’ve had on there ever could. But they’ll never get that chance.

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