Joey Savatgy

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3 solid top 10 races. But anybody notice in his interviews how he talks about being on inferior equipment. The dude acts like a factory bike would get him in the top 5. Show some respect for the team that has brought you to this point. 

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1/31/2023 9:49am

At that level, the bike you are on is the exact difference between top 10 and top 5.

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1/31/2023 9:55am
mtl wrote:

At that level, the bike you are on is the exact difference between top 10 and top 5.

Tell that to Kickstart Kenny. I like JS but it's not the bike its seat time.

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1/31/2023 9:57am
moto162 wrote:

Tell that to Kickstart Kenny. I like JS but it's not the bike its seat time.

Kenny’s bike is very good you just drink the haterade that’s spoon fed to you by people who have no clue what makes a bike good 

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1/31/2023 10:08am
mtl wrote:

At that level, the bike you are on is the exact difference between top 10 and top 5.

moto162 wrote:

Tell that to Kickstart Kenny. I like JS but it's not the bike its seat time.

There are about 5-10 more people involved in developing Kenny's bike verses Joey.

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1/31/2023 10:11am

Make it like the KTM junior challenge and give a star yamaha to the the entire top 20.  I’m thinking we’d see savatgy, wilson, etc finish where they are already finishing.  That said, after all the hype on Craig & Nichols, I’d take Joey over them.   

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1/31/2023 10:19am

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

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1/31/2023 10:25am

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

Juck wrote:

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

Like what?  They've said Ken's bike was very similar to Chiz's bike.  At A1, Ken rode the same bike Savatgy could have ridden and got a 5th place with the 2nd fastest lap time of the night.  Savatgy finished almost 30 seconds behind him and was 1.5 seconds off the fast lap.

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1/31/2023 10:55am

I find it hard to believe Chiz and Roczen are on the same level of bike/support. Perhaps, bit it is hard to believe anyway. Savatgy seems to be doing well with his choice he made.

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1/31/2023 11:06am

Pulp said he might fill in at husky

 

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1/31/2023 11:33am

I don't want to hate on the guy, but I don't think it's the bike. 

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1/31/2023 11:54am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2023 11:55am

Pulp said he might fill in at husky

 

Should be permanently filling in for craig 

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1/31/2023 11:59am

Savatgy deserves a factory ride, IMO.  He did Kawasaki a major solid as a fill-in, he's shown he's got the speed and talent.

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1/31/2023 12:22pm

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

Savatgy hated the JGR Suzuki, so I think that’s why he didn’t want to take the HEP ride. A rider can ride a bike that’s a “good bike” and not like the feeling of it, I think that’s what Craig’s going through right now as well. 

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1/31/2023 12:31pm

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

LocalDrunk wrote:
Savatgy hated the JGR Suzuki, so I think that’s why he didn’t want to take the HEP ride. A rider can ride a bike that’s a...

Savatgy hated the JGR Suzuki, so I think that’s why he didn’t want to take the HEP ride. A rider can ride a bike that’s a “good bike” and not like the feeling of it, I think that’s what Craig’s going through right now as well. 

I can agree with you there. 

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1/31/2023 12:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2023 12:34pm

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

Juck wrote:

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying he's getting a ton more support than you would be.  All I'm aware of is Ken trying out a suspension vendor of his choice.

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1/31/2023 1:18pm

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

LocalDrunk wrote:
Savatgy hated the JGR Suzuki, so I think that’s why he didn’t want to take the HEP ride. A rider can ride a bike that’s a...

Savatgy hated the JGR Suzuki, so I think that’s why he didn’t want to take the HEP ride. A rider can ride a bike that’s a “good bike” and not like the feeling of it, I think that’s what Craig’s going through right now as well. 

He only rode it long enough to get the check and cash it then a mystery injury, like Justin Hill had 

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1/31/2023 1:34pm
DEMONDAVE wrote:

He only rode it long enough to get the check and cash it then a mystery injury, like Justin Hill had 

I'm sure it had nothing to do with the almost career ending injury he had at Aus-X in 2019. 

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1/31/2023 1:38pm
DEMONDAVE wrote:

He only rode it long enough to get the check and cash it then a mystery injury, like Justin Hill had 

The guy destroyed his foot at aus-x in Melbourne in 2019 on the bike, nothing mystery about that 

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1/31/2023 2:23pm

I don't believe any of them deserve anything.  But some of them sure earn what they have.  I've really started liking Joey for his interviews on Pulp, his blue collar 450 career, and that he keeps plugging along.  And, he's damn good on a dirt bike.  i don't watch the interviews, so if he's bagging on the bike a bit, or woah is me, then that would be off putting to me again like his past persona.  I'd think it much better to pump that up.. "man, I'm so stoked to be doing what I'm doing, this team has been working their asses off to allow me to do this.  I'm just happy to still be out here racing a dirt bike and proving that I belong!"  That, would sound good.  Good luck to all the guys not on factory stuff.  Keep working boys, DW15 etc., heck, even Justin Hill is turning me around.  I'm impressed and hope he keeps it up the entire series.  

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1/31/2023 2:37pm

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

Juck wrote:

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying...

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying he's getting a ton more support than you would be.  All I'm aware of is Ken trying out a suspension vendor of his choice.

Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed to find sponsors to sign KR dictates different levels of support by logic.

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1/31/2023 2:42pm
Juck wrote:

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying...

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying he's getting a ton more support than you would be.  All I'm aware of is Ken trying out a suspension vendor of his choice.

Spoonguy wrote:
Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed...

Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed to find sponsors to sign KR dictates different levels of support by logic.

I thought we were talking about the bike, not sponsors.  But if that's what he meant, my bad.  I was referring to the performance and capability of the bike itself, because as people posted above, it sounds like Savatgy said his current equipment is holding him back.  

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1/31/2023 5:36pm

Its pretty natural for a guy coming off of factory equipment to feel like hes got better results in him if it weren't for a lack of better parts. But Joeys been very appreciative of the RWR guys from all that Ive listened too and makes sure to lament that they are doing everything they can within the budget they have. I think he proved last year he can fight further up in the pack with top end stuff.

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1/31/2023 5:56pm
mtl wrote:

At that level, the bike you are on is the exact difference between top 10 and top 5.

moto162 wrote:

Tell that to Kickstart Kenny. I like JS but it's not the bike its seat time.

Kenny clearly can't hang on for an entire main. how much is due to injury is impossible to quantify, but an easier bike to ride would help his late-race pace. mcelrath said the bike was too fast and too unstable. KR has tons of talent to modulate those traits, but it saps energy.

TLDR there a difference between a fast hotlap bike and a fast main event bike. 

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1/31/2023 6:59pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2023 8:13pm
mtl wrote:

At that level, the bike you are on is the exact difference between top 10 and top 5.

moto162 wrote:

Tell that to Kickstart Kenny. I like JS but it's not the bike its seat time.

Tyler D wrote:
Kenny clearly can't hang on for an entire main. how much is due to injury is impossible to quantify, but an easier bike to ride would...

Kenny clearly can't hang on for an entire main. how much is due to injury is impossible to quantify, but an easier bike to ride would help his late-race pace. mcelrath said the bike was too fast and too unstable. KR has tons of talent to modulate those traits, but it saps energy.

TLDR there a difference between a fast hotlap bike and a fast main event bike. 

What?? His worst finish is 5th (best is 3rd) so far and you don't think he can hang on an entire race?

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1/31/2023 8:34pm
Juck wrote:

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying...

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying he's getting a ton more support than you would be.  All I'm aware of is Ken trying out a suspension vendor of his choice.

Spoonguy wrote:
Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed...

Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed to find sponsors to sign KR dictates different levels of support by logic.

All of our bikes are basically the same besides a few things that are just preference to each rider. We all have access to the same things. Mine and Kenny’s bikes are basically the same besides handlebars (different sponsor for progressive side), gearing, graphics, and now suspension with him solely working with FC. So yes basically the exact same bikes. The whole basic package is what the team and I developed before Kenny started and what we have worked on since then. So yes to summarize his FC suspension is the only thing different for him. The team has been great to give us the best and keep working to make it better as we go. Flying back from California right now from doing a couple days of testing again. 

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1/31/2023 8:35pm

 BTW… Joey has been riding great and hope he can get a deal to race the whole series. We train and ride together during the week and he’s been riding awesome. 

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1/31/2023 9:01pm

Pulp said he might fill in at husky

 

It makes sense and Joey will probably take the ride, but from previous interviews, I don't think he's a big fan of the Austrian bikes.

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2/1/2023 7:34am
Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying...

Paging Kyle Chisholm.  I would like to know how much different Ken's bike was than yours for the first couple rounds.  Seems people here are saying he's getting a ton more support than you would be.  All I'm aware of is Ken trying out a suspension vendor of his choice.

Spoonguy wrote:
Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed...

Nobody stated "a ton". The way vitards put words in peoples mouths or the lack of reading comprehension is alarming. The search HEP stated they needed to find sponsors to sign KR dictates different levels of support by logic.

All of our bikes are basically the same besides a few things that are just preference to each rider. We all have access to the same...

All of our bikes are basically the same besides a few things that are just preference to each rider. We all have access to the same things. Mine and Kenny’s bikes are basically the same besides handlebars (different sponsor for progressive side), gearing, graphics, and now suspension with him solely working with FC. So yes basically the exact same bikes. The whole basic package is what the team and I developed before Kenny started and what we have worked on since then. So yes to summarize his FC suspension is the only thing different for him. The team has been great to give us the best and keep working to make it better as we go. Flying back from California right now from doing a couple days of testing again. 

Thanks for confirming, very good information.  Good luck in Houston.

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2/1/2023 7:38am

Didn't Savatgy turn down the HEP ride?  Now we see what the HEP bike is capable of.

Juck wrote:

Savatgy would not be getting the same support that Roczen is if he took the ride

Well Juck, read above. The bikes are the same.  So confirming again- yes we now see what the yellow bike is capable of that Joey turned down.  If for money I understand, but it's not the equipment.  Roczen's bike is the same bike Joey would have been riding.  

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