Is that flagger okay?

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In the 250LCQ when Vohland went down off the side of the track there was a flagger or track crew member standing there and Max caught him with a flying headbutt on his way down. 

He didn’t get up on camera, and they didn’t talk about it at all, is that dude okay? He had a helmet on but it was still a big knock to the head. 

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1/21/2023 11:23pm
bh84 wrote:
In the 250LCQ when Vohland went down off the side of the track there was a flagger or track crew member standing there and Max caught...

In the 250LCQ when Vohland went down off the side of the track there was a flagger or track crew member standing there and Max caught him with a flying headbutt on his way down. 

He didn’t get up on camera, and they didn’t talk about it at all, is that dude okay? He had a helmet on but it was still a big knock to the head. 

Man I was wondering the same.

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1/21/2023 11:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/22/2023 12:18am

Man I was wondering the same.

Same here. Especially since he had his back to Max and no clue or time to react to what was coming. 

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1/21/2023 11:40pm

I hope he’s ok, I was completely glad he had on that helmet at that moment. 

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1/21/2023 11:47pm

Please don’t take this as an official report. I saw I guy leave the track and nail a track worker very hard and he was flat on the ground. He got up with the help of other workers and appeared to be walking and okay. I’m not sure if this was who you are talking about. From where I was I didn’t notice if it was Vohland who hit him 

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1/21/2023 11:49pm
KennyT wrote:
Please don’t take this as an official report. I saw I guy leave the track and nail a track worker very hard and he was flat...

Please don’t take this as an official report. I saw I guy leave the track and nail a track worker very hard and he was flat on the ground. He got up with the help of other workers and appeared to be walking and okay. I’m not sure if this was who you are talking about. From where I was I didn’t notice if it was Vohland who hit him 

The KTM that nailed the guy was Vohland. 

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1/22/2023 1:18am

It’s looked like an asterisk medical guy to me but it did happen fast 

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It was an Asterisk medic. He bounced up pretty quickly and stayed on the floor/working.

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1/22/2023 2:55am
ML512 wrote:

It was an Asterisk medic. He bounced up pretty quickly and stayed on the floor/working.

Alpinestarsprotects 

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1/22/2023 9:26am
ML512 wrote:

It was an Asterisk medic. He bounced up pretty quickly and stayed on the floor/working.

Good to hear. Reminded me of Jeff Hardy’s flying headbutts off the top rope when it happened

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1/22/2023 9:59am
ML512 wrote:

It was an Asterisk medic. He bounced up pretty quickly and stayed on the floor/working.

If he was an asterisks medic worker, he had been laying there a few years before he got upSmile

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1/22/2023 1:20pm

I missed it.

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1/22/2023 2:31pm
ML512 wrote:

It was an Asterisk medic. He bounced up pretty quickly and stayed on the floor/working.

johnk408 wrote:

If he was an asterisks medic worker, he had been laying there a few years before he got upSmile

Lol...smart assGrinning.  I still say, "asterisk" too.Blush

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1/22/2023 2:39pm

Too many folk in risky places IMO .. there was a mule right close by too. There were 4 or 5 people there i think . 

Good to see he was wearing a helmet , one of the things that is joked about , but is rightly done. 

 

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1/22/2023 2:42pm

Helmets are a great thing for anyone track side. Glad hes ok

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1/22/2023 5:56pm

Helmets are a great thing for anyone track side. Glad hes ok

Always thought the helmets were silly but watching the bars bounce off that helmet was a real eye opener, could have been much worse. Kudos to whoever implemented that safety protocol years ago.

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1/22/2023 6:18pm
Motodave15 wrote:

I hope he’s ok, I was completely glad he had on that helmet at that moment. 

Me too.  When the helmets came into use, they went over like a fart in church with many of the track workers and Asterisk (now Alpinestar) staff due to headset challenges plus few can say they're a fan of change.   If there was any doubt if this was a good thing, Saturday night eliminated it.   If I was out there working, I'd be a ninja turtle, wearing a shell with front and back protection plus goggles.

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1/22/2023 7:55pm

That stupid looking helmet made that guy look pretty dam smart 

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1/22/2023 10:57pm

The guy that got hit had his back to the racing.    Perhaps it was only bad/luck chance....but it seems to me, they need to train these folks to always have an eye on the action. 


Glad he's okay.

 

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1/23/2023 5:54am

I work trackside at Daytona and Tampa and wouldn't consider getting on the floor without a helmet on. At Daytona I usually end up on the west end of the track between two lanes and it is the scariest thing I do motorcycle related all year, I'm much safer racing. By the nature of where I'm posted I will always have my back to one of the lanes. You definitely have to have your head on a swivel. Glad to hear that he's ok. 

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1/23/2023 6:00am
McG194 wrote:
I work trackside at Daytona and Tampa and wouldn't consider getting on the floor without a helmet on. At Daytona I usually end up on the...

I work trackside at Daytona and Tampa and wouldn't consider getting on the floor without a helmet on. At Daytona I usually end up on the west end of the track between two lanes and it is the scariest thing I do motorcycle related all year, I'm much safer racing. By the nature of where I'm posted I will always have my back to one of the lanes. You definitely have to have your head on a swivel. Glad to hear that he's ok. 

Sounds pretty intense

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1/23/2023 6:03am

Dude took a flying punch from Vohland's handlbar. It was a hard hit.

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1/23/2023 5:02pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2023 5:04pm
Magoofan wrote:
The guy that got hit had his back to the racing.    Perhaps it was only bad/luck chance....but it seems to me, they need to train...

The guy that got hit had his back to the racing.    Perhaps it was only bad/luck chance....but it seems to me, they need to train these folks to always have an eye on the action. 


Glad he's okay.

 

You can't properly flag accidents looking upstream.

I  agree with the swivel head, but the job is downstream. 

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1/23/2023 5:21pm
Magoofan wrote:
The guy that got hit had his back to the racing.    Perhaps it was only bad/luck chance....but it seems to me, they need to train...

The guy that got hit had his back to the racing.    Perhaps it was only bad/luck chance....but it seems to me, they need to train these folks to always have an eye on the action. 


Glad he's okay.

 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

You can't properly flag accidents looking upstream.

I  agree with the swivel head, but the job is downstream. 

He was a medic as I understand it....not a flagger.

 

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1/23/2023 6:08pm

Profeshenal will be by soon with one of his trucking stories that starts off as a handlebar to the head comment Grinning

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1/23/2023 7:37pm

I’d love to be a flagger but I’m not even sure how to go about it.

 

You guys remember when they didn’t have to wear helmets? I think they started mandating that in the late 00s. 

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1/24/2023 1:29am Edited Date/Time 1/24/2023 1:55am

One thing that really stands out to me, each year at the Valkenswaard MXGP, is a Flaggers / Marshalls post that is set in a bit of a KInk / Zig Zag on a straight. As most would know, it's a Sand Track, with bikes going every which way. 

To see the flagger stationed in this little, slightly raised posting, with their back to a raging mob  of MXers, going  at Warp Factor 10 straight towards the flagger, while bouncing all over the place in the sand,  who then  'jog' just to the right of them, but keeping his / her / their face pointed in the direction of travel, so as to see what happens at and after the section they are observing, is a lesson in discipline and bravery. 

Each time I see that, and other Flaggers / Marshalls doing their job properly, I'm full of admiration for them. It's Not a safe job, and they are there to protect people.

If that bloke  who got nailed is indeed OK, he's been Very lucky in his bad luck. It was a hell of a hit.

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1/24/2023 5:32am Edited Date/Time 1/24/2023 5:35am
Profeshenal will be by soon with one of his trucking stories that starts off as a handlebar to the head comment 

Profeshenal will be by soon with one of his trucking stories that starts off as a handlebar to the head comment Grinning

"i was up near the panhandle sitting at a dock when I got down from the chair and a homeless guy that lives by the 711 come flying past my trailer and nailed me as I was hitching up I didn't go to the doctor or nothin i had to drive 12 hours to Atlanta for a drop then 13 hours the next morning to get OT for the big guy asked me if i could get an extra haul in and of course i just switched books and whited out the next one its an old trick but i was fine after the bike hit me with the end of the handlebar i drove all next week then finally went to the doctor with a headache and it turnd out I fractured my skull and was concussed but it didn't matter I had a 14 hour the next day and worked all week so I bet the medic is fine he'll be back in no time" 

-profeshenal

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1/24/2023 11:02am
TDeath21 wrote:
I’d love to be a flagger but I’m not even sure how to go about it.   You guys remember when they didn’t have to wear...

I’d love to be a flagger but I’m not even sure how to go about it.

 

You guys remember when they didn’t have to wear helmets? I think they started mandating that in the late 00s. 

Find out the organization that works your local event, join them and volunteer. 

 

Feld Supercross races have 3 types of on track officials. AMA Flaggers, Dig Dugs and a local flag crew. 

AMA Flaggers are the guys you see with yellow, blue and red cross flags. 

Dig Dugs are the guys who go onto the track and get the bikes off the track. 

The Local Flag Crew is what I'm a part of in Feld races. We only have yellow flags. Being a member of Florida Trail Riders, someone inquired about needing flaggers a few years ago and I jumped at the chance. Feld is investing more in flaggers lately, they have one full time guy who runs the show he travels to every event and he is kind of the coach. We will all meet in a locker room in the facility and he will give a review and go over expectations as well as going over the track map and stationing people according to their experience. Flaggers are not allowed on a hot track under any circumstances. We wear helmets and can hear race control. 

 

Daytona is pretty much the same except the Dig Dug responsibility is handled by a local crew and the flag crew is the old school style flaggers in white pants and shirts. They stay away from the track and are not geared up in helmets. I got on the Dig Dug crew the same way, an FTR member put it out that they were looking for people and once again I jumped at the chance. They pay us for the day for both positions but truth be told I would pay a few hundred bucks for the experience. There is 40,000 people up in the stands watching but only about 20 of us on the actual race floor. People like to dog flaggers but you have never seen a Supercross until you have seen it from 5 feet away. 

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1/25/2023 6:15am
TDeath21 wrote:
I’d love to be a flagger but I’m not even sure how to go about it.   You guys remember when they didn’t have to wear...

I’d love to be a flagger but I’m not even sure how to go about it.

 

You guys remember when they didn’t have to wear helmets? I think they started mandating that in the late 00s. 

McG194 wrote:
Find out the organization that works your local event, join them and volunteer.    Feld Supercross races have 3 types of on track officials. AMA Flaggers...

Find out the organization that works your local event, join them and volunteer. 

 

Feld Supercross races have 3 types of on track officials. AMA Flaggers, Dig Dugs and a local flag crew. 

AMA Flaggers are the guys you see with yellow, blue and red cross flags. 

Dig Dugs are the guys who go onto the track and get the bikes off the track. 

The Local Flag Crew is what I'm a part of in Feld races. We only have yellow flags. Being a member of Florida Trail Riders, someone inquired about needing flaggers a few years ago and I jumped at the chance. Feld is investing more in flaggers lately, they have one full time guy who runs the show he travels to every event and he is kind of the coach. We will all meet in a locker room in the facility and he will give a review and go over expectations as well as going over the track map and stationing people according to their experience. Flaggers are not allowed on a hot track under any circumstances. We wear helmets and can hear race control. 

 

Daytona is pretty much the same except the Dig Dug responsibility is handled by a local crew and the flag crew is the old school style flaggers in white pants and shirts. They stay away from the track and are not geared up in helmets. I got on the Dig Dug crew the same way, an FTR member put it out that they were looking for people and once again I jumped at the chance. They pay us for the day for both positions but truth be told I would pay a few hundred bucks for the experience. There is 40,000 people up in the stands watching but only about 20 of us on the actual race floor. People like to dog flaggers but you have never seen a Supercross until you have seen it from 5 feet away. 

That sounds awesome! Thank you for the info. 

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1/25/2023 6:28am
Profeshenal will be by soon with one of his trucking stories that starts off as a handlebar to the head comment 

Profeshenal will be by soon with one of his trucking stories that starts off as a handlebar to the head comment Grinning

kNewc wrote:
"i was up near the panhandle sitting at a dock when I got down from the chair and a homeless guy that lives by the 711...

"i was up near the panhandle sitting at a dock when I got down from the chair and a homeless guy that lives by the 711 come flying past my trailer and nailed me as I was hitching up I didn't go to the doctor or nothin i had to drive 12 hours to Atlanta for a drop then 13 hours the next morning to get OT for the big guy asked me if i could get an extra haul in and of course i just switched books and whited out the next one its an old trick but i was fine after the bike hit me with the end of the handlebar i drove all next week then finally went to the doctor with a headache and it turnd out I fractured my skull and was concussed but it didn't matter I had a 14 hour the next day and worked all week so I bet the medic is fine he'll be back in no time" 

-profeshenal

That's pretty damn good right there.

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