MX of Nations 2024??

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Edited Date/Time 1/13/2023 11:09pm

Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that calendar year.  Assuming it is somewhere in Europe.  Maybe Italy (Maggiora), Portugal or Spain?  Thanks for any info!

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1/14/2023 12:29pm

2024 MX des Nations at GLEN HELEN . . . !!!

Let's make this happen!

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NorCal1975 wrote:
Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that...

Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that calendar year.  Assuming it is somewhere in Europe.  Maybe Italy (Maggiora), Portugal or Spain?  Thanks for any info!

I believe I read or heard possibly Saint-Jean-d'Angély in France for the 2024 MXoN. Not 100% positive though. 

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1/15/2023 7:39pm
NorCal1975 wrote:
Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that...

Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that calendar year.  Assuming it is somewhere in Europe.  Maybe Italy (Maggiora), Portugal or Spain?  Thanks for any info!

ts633 wrote:

I believe I read or heard possibly Saint-Jean-d'Angély in France for the 2024 MXoN. Not 100% positive though. 

MXoN is in France this year and they'll host it again in 2026.

1/15/2023 9:24pm

There is normally a long-term plan for the MXoN, but nothing's been confirmed for 2024 and there have been no rumors.

The problem is that there are not many countries/venues that can host it, so I genuinely believe that they are a bit stuck.

I have heard that Teutschenthal discussed hosting it again, but no idea when that would be.

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Bring it to New Zealand 

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1/15/2023 10:33pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2023 5:14am

We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be left there. The US riders focus on Supercross 8 to 9 months of the year, where most of the Euros only focus on Outdoor racing year round. You do get the rare exceptions who will come over and race Supercross to test their skills against the best riders in the world. But sadly it obviously won't happen after how badly the United States handed everyone their ass at Red Bud. But it would be cool to see everyone race a hybrid track. Think about it. It will give the gum slapper Herlings a chance to prove something? But he most likely will be hurt by then anyway. It will give the reigning champ Gajser a chance to redeem himself after the Monster Cup track (without whoops) that chewed him up and spit him out a few years back.

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Bring it to New Zealand 

At least the southern hemisphere for the 2nd time ever 

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We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be...

We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be left there. The US riders focus on Supercross 8 to 9 months of the year, where most of the Euros only focus on Outdoor racing year round. You do get the rare exceptions who will come over and race Supercross to test their skills against the best riders in the world. But sadly it obviously won't happen after how badly the United States handed everyone their ass at Red Bud. But it would be cool to see everyone race a hybrid track. Think about it. It will give the gum slapper Herlings a chance to prove something? But he most likely will be hurt by then anyway. It will give the reigning champ Gajser a chance to redeem himself after the Monster Cup track (without whoops) that chewed him up and spit him out a few years back.

It's not sxon.

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We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be...

We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be left there. The US riders focus on Supercross 8 to 9 months of the year, where most of the Euros only focus on Outdoor racing year round. You do get the rare exceptions who will come over and race Supercross to test their skills against the best riders in the world. But sadly it obviously won't happen after how badly the United States handed everyone their ass at Red Bud. But it would be cool to see everyone race a hybrid track. Think about it. It will give the gum slapper Herlings a chance to prove something? But he most likely will be hurt by then anyway. It will give the reigning champ Gajser a chance to redeem himself after the Monster Cup track (without whoops) that chewed him up and spit him out a few years back.

Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument really stupid. It's not like they're riding MotoGP the majority of the year, and even if they were, the MotoGP guys train by riding motocross and motocross is like 50 times more similar to supercross than it is to MotoGP. They're still racing dirt bikes, on dirt, but the track is a little bit different.

Speaking of the track being different, Americans always bring up their riders riding supercross, but just ignore that the European riders spend a similar (albeit less) amount of time riding deep sand tracks that the Americans don't. If we truly want to make it fair then I guess we should have a track that's 1/3 regular mx, 1/3 supercross and 1/3 Sardinia type deep sand. Oh and chuck in some supermoto too while we're at it. But balance it out by adding a cycling race. You know what still unfair. Let's just have them run around a flat track in their gear.

Edit: Just realised we can't have them running around a flat track in their gear either. Europeans have slightly lighter helmets so that just wouldn't be fair at all. 

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Juck wrote:
Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument...

Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument really stupid. It's not like they're riding MotoGP the majority of the year, and even if they were, the MotoGP guys train by riding motocross and motocross is like 50 times more similar to supercross than it is to MotoGP. They're still racing dirt bikes, on dirt, but the track is a little bit different.

Speaking of the track being different, Americans always bring up their riders riding supercross, but just ignore that the European riders spend a similar (albeit less) amount of time riding deep sand tracks that the Americans don't. If we truly want to make it fair then I guess we should have a track that's 1/3 regular mx, 1/3 supercross and 1/3 Sardinia type deep sand. Oh and chuck in some supermoto too while we're at it. But balance it out by adding a cycling race. You know what still unfair. Let's just have them run around a flat track in their gear.

Edit: Just realised we can't have them running around a flat track in their gear either. Europeans have slightly lighter helmets so that just wouldn't be fair at all. 

What the hell are you even talking about 

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Juck wrote:
Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument...

Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument really stupid. It's not like they're riding MotoGP the majority of the year, and even if they were, the MotoGP guys train by riding motocross and motocross is like 50 times more similar to supercross than it is to MotoGP. They're still racing dirt bikes, on dirt, but the track is a little bit different.

Speaking of the track being different, Americans always bring up their riders riding supercross, but just ignore that the European riders spend a similar (albeit less) amount of time riding deep sand tracks that the Americans don't. If we truly want to make it fair then I guess we should have a track that's 1/3 regular mx, 1/3 supercross and 1/3 Sardinia type deep sand. Oh and chuck in some supermoto too while we're at it. But balance it out by adding a cycling race. You know what still unfair. Let's just have them run around a flat track in their gear.

Edit: Just realised we can't have them running around a flat track in their gear either. Europeans have slightly lighter helmets so that just wouldn't be fair at all. 

zehn wrote:

What the hell are you even talking about 

Did you read the comment I was replying to?

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NorCal1975 wrote:
Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that...

Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that calendar year.  Assuming it is somewhere in Europe.  Maybe Italy (Maggiora), Portugal or Spain?  Thanks for any info!

ts633 wrote:

I believe I read or heard possibly Saint-Jean-d'Angély in France for the 2024 MXoN. Not 100% positive though. 

Why they keep racing the same shitty tracks?

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As far as I’m aware it’s in France, Ernée this year. 

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Stoop wrote:

Why they keep racing the same shitty tracks?

Same tracks willing to fork over the money to host the event. 

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NorCal1975 wrote:
Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that...

Anyone have an idea of where that is likely to be?  Planning to go with my son who will be a senior in high school that calendar year.  Assuming it is somewhere in Europe.  Maybe Italy (Maggiora), Portugal or Spain?  Thanks for any info!

ts633 wrote:

I believe I read or heard possibly Saint-Jean-d'Angély in France for the 2024 MXoN. Not 100% positive though. 

Stoop wrote:

Why they keep racing the same shitty tracks?

Saint-Jean-d’Angley is not a shitty track. 

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1/16/2023 1:47am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2023 1:49am
We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be...

We should hold it on one of our Supermotocross tracks to make it fair. Plus if they do decide to do it the track can be left there. The US riders focus on Supercross 8 to 9 months of the year, where most of the Euros only focus on Outdoor racing year round. You do get the rare exceptions who will come over and race Supercross to test their skills against the best riders in the world. But sadly it obviously won't happen after how badly the United States handed everyone their ass at Red Bud. But it would be cool to see everyone race a hybrid track. Think about it. It will give the gum slapper Herlings a chance to prove something? But he most likely will be hurt by then anyway. It will give the reigning champ Gajser a chance to redeem himself after the Monster Cup track (without whoops) that chewed him up and spit him out a few years back.

Juck wrote:
Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument...

Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument really stupid. It's not like they're riding MotoGP the majority of the year, and even if they were, the MotoGP guys train by riding motocross and motocross is like 50 times more similar to supercross than it is to MotoGP. They're still racing dirt bikes, on dirt, but the track is a little bit different.

Speaking of the track being different, Americans always bring up their riders riding supercross, but just ignore that the European riders spend a similar (albeit less) amount of time riding deep sand tracks that the Americans don't. If we truly want to make it fair then I guess we should have a track that's 1/3 regular mx, 1/3 supercross and 1/3 Sardinia type deep sand. Oh and chuck in some supermoto too while we're at it. But balance it out by adding a cycling race. You know what still unfair. Let's just have them run around a flat track in their gear.

Edit: Just realised we can't have them running around a flat track in their gear either. Europeans have slightly lighter helmets so that just wouldn't be fair at all. 

You might be on to something. Maybe have the guys run MotoGP bikes with knobbies at one of the Europeon tracks, since they really don't have any big jumps. It might be pretty bad ass 🤔. Don't listen to the naysayers. I'm 100% on board with your idea. 👊

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1/16/2023 1:53am
Juck wrote:
Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument...

Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument really stupid. It's not like they're riding MotoGP the majority of the year, and even if they were, the MotoGP guys train by riding motocross and motocross is like 50 times more similar to supercross than it is to MotoGP. They're still racing dirt bikes, on dirt, but the track is a little bit different.

Speaking of the track being different, Americans always bring up their riders riding supercross, but just ignore that the European riders spend a similar (albeit less) amount of time riding deep sand tracks that the Americans don't. If we truly want to make it fair then I guess we should have a track that's 1/3 regular mx, 1/3 supercross and 1/3 Sardinia type deep sand. Oh and chuck in some supermoto too while we're at it. But balance it out by adding a cycling race. You know what still unfair. Let's just have them run around a flat track in their gear.

Edit: Just realised we can't have them running around a flat track in their gear either. Europeans have slightly lighter helmets so that just wouldn't be fair at all. 

I guess I'm not the only one who had a few too many drinks tonight. I was just trolling being a smartass. Cheers buddy. 🍻

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Do they really need to have the race in France every other year?

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Do they really need to have the race in France every other year?

Do they really need to have it in USA every other year?

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Juck wrote:
Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument...

Aside from the fact you just said they should completely change the event to a different discipline, I find the whole "but Americans train supercross!!!!1!1!1!1!111!" argument really stupid. It's not like they're riding MotoGP the majority of the year, and even if they were, the MotoGP guys train by riding motocross and motocross is like 50 times more similar to supercross than it is to MotoGP. They're still racing dirt bikes, on dirt, but the track is a little bit different.

Speaking of the track being different, Americans always bring up their riders riding supercross, but just ignore that the European riders spend a similar (albeit less) amount of time riding deep sand tracks that the Americans don't. If we truly want to make it fair then I guess we should have a track that's 1/3 regular mx, 1/3 supercross and 1/3 Sardinia type deep sand. Oh and chuck in some supermoto too while we're at it. But balance it out by adding a cycling race. You know what still unfair. Let's just have them run around a flat track in their gear.

Edit: Just realised we can't have them running around a flat track in their gear either. Europeans have slightly lighter helmets so that just wouldn't be fair at all. 

I guess I'm not the only one who had a few too many drinks tonight. I was just trolling being a smartass. Cheers buddy. 🍻

I was confused for a bit because I thought "hmm this guy doesn't usually post dumb stuff" haha

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ts633 wrote:

I believe I read or heard possibly Saint-Jean-d'Angély in France for the 2024 MXoN. Not 100% positive though. 

Stoop wrote:

Why they keep racing the same shitty tracks?

Saint-Jean-d’Angley is not a shitty track. 

Please elaborate 

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There is normally a long-term plan for the MXoN, but nothing's been confirmed for 2024 and there have been no rumors. The problem is that there...

There is normally a long-term plan for the MXoN, but nothing's been confirmed for 2024 and there have been no rumors.

The problem is that there are not many countries/venues that can host it, so I genuinely believe that they are a bit stuck.

I have heard that Teutschenthal discussed hosting it again, but no idea when that would be.

I hope you are correct with Teutschenthal, i have a Europe trip all planned that involves Northern Czech, a side trip to Teutschenthal and then Berlin would top it off.

We are just waiting for the race to return there.

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Stoop wrote:

Why they keep racing the same shitty tracks?

Saint-Jean-d’Angley is not a shitty track. 

Juck wrote:

Please elaborate 

Excellent natural terrain, on the side of a hill so plenty of elevation changes. Viewing is really good from what I’ve seen. It holds a GP there most years so parking for the teams & spectators must be up to MXGP standard. 
 

 

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Saint-Jean-d’Angley is not a shitty track. 

Juck wrote:

Please elaborate 

Excellent natural terrain, on the side of a hill so plenty of elevation changes. Viewing is really good from what I’ve seen. It holds a GP...

Excellent natural terrain, on the side of a hill so plenty of elevation changes. Viewing is really good from what I’ve seen. It holds a GP there most years so parking for the teams & spectators must be up to MXGP standard. 
 

 

I agree but I meant the actual track itself, purely for racing. In that aspect it is absolutely terrible in my opinion. 

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Bring it to New Zealand 

I would go for sure

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I've only seen them on TV or Youtube and weather would most likely be an issue, but there seem to be a couple of really nice tracks in Canada that would be great MXdN tracks.  

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1/16/2023 9:09am

Just for more information, Infront said that they were only going to countries that "work" after Latvia in 2014.

Latvia was good, just not many fans and not the same vibe.

Ever since then it's been said that it would be a rotation of the UK, France, Italy, USA, Germany and Belgium.

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Just for more information, Infront said that they were only going to countries that "work" after Latvia in 2014. Latvia was good, just not many fans...

Just for more information, Infront said that they were only going to countries that "work" after Latvia in 2014.

Latvia was good, just not many fans and not the same vibe.

Ever since then it's been said that it would be a rotation of the UK, France, Italy, USA, Germany and Belgium.

Agreed, Latvia was low key, enjoyed it immensely , but it needs a place that that is easy to get to. 

Teuschenthal is a goat track now, too small and narrow, Matterley is awesome, and can cope, but would love to see a new venue somewhere. 

I would love Lierop, at least the fans can hang over the fences,  that seems to be a lost thing. 

 

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Agreed, Latvia was low key, enjoyed it immensely , but it needs a place that that is easy to get to.  Teuschenthal is a goat track...

Agreed, Latvia was low key, enjoyed it immensely , but it needs a place that that is easy to get to. 

Teuschenthal is a goat track now, too small and narrow, Matterley is awesome, and can cope, but would love to see a new venue somewhere. 

I would love Lierop, at least the fans can hang over the fences,  that seems to be a lost thing. 

 

Agreed! Nothing beats hanging over the fences at Lierop! They have a pre-season International there in March that i’m tempted to go to, just a shame it’s only 1 day.

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