Sexton to KTM confirmed?

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12/4/2022 2:02pm

WTF does all this roczen crap have to do with Chase Sexton and KTM?

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12/4/2022 2:11pm

I’m not sure KTM needs a headache like KR and his wacky agent 

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soggy wrote:
The semantics being argued here are insane.   yes ken did (or his agent) said no to the test at first. When they realized the potential...

The semantics being argued here are insane.  
yes ken did (or his agent) said no to the test at first. When they realized the potential punishment he took the test. So in the end he took it. 

 

have you ever said no to something your wife asked you to do and then done it anyway. Did you end up doing it or not?

Being forced to do something doesn't mean that you didn't refuse. Kinda like rape. 'The reason we refused...' should, in any sane person's mind, be the...

Being forced to do something doesn't mean that you didn't refuse. Kinda like rape. 'The reason we refused...' should, in any sane person's mind, be the end of the discussion. It is a point blank admission that they did, in fact, REFUSE. At that point, Ping's statement was verified as a fact by a principle in the incident. So here's the rub... The only thing left to do, for any of you that claimed Ping was wrong, if you are a man, with any honor or integrity at all,,,, is to apologize. 

Aaah there it is, a rape comparison to put the cherry on top of this thread 

Just when you think, nothing crazier could be added to this dumpster fire of a thread, the rape comparison pops up. I will admit it, I did not see that coming. I underestimated the bat shit craziness of vital. My New Year’s resolution, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE Vital. 👍

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Not saying KTM made any kind of knee jerk decision, nor do I know and neither do you.  As I said before, the problem here is...

Not saying KTM made any kind of knee jerk decision, nor do I know and neither do you.  As I said before, the problem here is 100% the actions of Astephen.....long before Ping's post.  Astephen's actions in Australia would have never seen the light of day if it had not been for Pings post.....even though the truth came out with the Interview with RacerX.  Great work by Weege.

Don, I usually agree with your take, but hanging Ping over this is just silly.  Should he post click bait?  Hard to say since it's the way to get views/clicks now.  Did it shine light on the actual store eventually and show Astephens true self?  Yep.

 

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I just don't know why we NEED to know about Astephens true self? Did his actions in Australia need to see the light of day? It...

I just don't know why we NEED to know about Astephens true self?

Did his actions in Australia need to see the light of day?

It has no bearing on the sport

You don't find it interesting he said his rider takes different supplements during the offseason he would not be allowed to during the season, was carrying...

You don't find it interesting he said his rider takes different supplements during the offseason he would not be allowed to during the season, was carrying pills around for Roczen in an unmarked pill bottle he volunteered to the FIM, had to call the doctor to find out what they were, and then had the team google whether it was on the banned substance list??

I would say it is interesting and needs actual attention and questions via media. My personal .02, Better proteins, vitamins, etc that he can take during the off season, and take the stuff that isn’t banned during the season. 

Then again, it could be some dank jank shit lol. We will never know the truth and if I were in his shoes and would play it just the way it was played. 

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I thought American Honda's 'no support' was political but maybe they foresaw/ knew what Kenny does. HGH or borderline something offseason. Doesn't take advise, losses his...

I thought American Honda's 'no support' was political but maybe they foresaw/ knew what Kenny does. HGH or borderline something offseason. Doesn't take advise, losses his ride. Gets tested. KTM now assume test will be positive, no ride. Chase Sexton Ivan Drago, ha.

He passed the drug test though ,right? So that would mean that he was not taking anything that wasn't legal. I have not listened to the...

He passed the drug test though ,right? So that would mean that he was not taking anything that wasn't legal. I have not listened to the interview yet, but from all of the posts I see on here, it looks like his agent said No, Did Kenny himself ever say no to the test?  Maybe he was unsure if what Kenny was taking would be legal during the season , or maybe they had a tight travel schedule and taking the test could make them miss a flight? I've heard riders tell stories of being stuck at the track for hours after a race before they could hydrate enough to be able to provide a sample. It seems more of a grey area as to saying he was forced to take the test.  If you say no to something and change your mind and then say yes,  Yes at first you did say no. But that does not mean that you didn't change your mind after learning more about the situation . I think this is one of those times that perspective will dictate the opinion of if Kenny was truly forced or not.  It feels like when I was a kid in 1st or 2nd grade, and all the kids were speculating on how sex works and details. A bunch of people that  are making more geuss' and picking the parts  of the story that fit in with their concept of what happened. My input here is pretty useless. But Again I am thankful for Kenny. What would we all be talking about if not for Kenny.     

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Test goes to the lab. Takes a while to analyse it. Maybe he waited too long and the KTM green light simply turned red. IDK. Ken...

Test goes to the lab. Takes a while to analyse it. Maybe he waited too long and the KTM green light simply turned red. IDK. Ken got tested. His manager stressed. Whether it's jetlag, foreign country with no 23' ride yet, I don't know, but this trepidation at getting a simple mandated FIM drug test screams suspect. 

Anyhow I like ken, even I thought I've thrown him under the bus with speculation. Maybe it's just & only his crap manager. Overprotective, stressed etc. After such a complicated arm injury, certain drugs are sometimes suggested honestly to aid recovery. Whether at the time legal, Therapeutic or outright banned substances.  From videos I've seen, it certainly looks like he trains hard. Supplements. Pills. Injections. Whatev. His manager maybe by default just assumes wrong and protects his client from stuff he rightfully and legally had been on in 2017~18. I'm of the opinion that KR is prob clean. And don't really care if he isn't.  I also think whoever runs the shows in the US told American Honda not to support an overseas run upstart series. Ken wanted a holiday and Honda took one too.

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Ob917 wrote:

I’m not sure KTM needs a headache like KR and his wacky agent 

I think Roger thinks Ken is simply too old.

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12/4/2022 2:50pm
Ob917 wrote:

I’m not sure KTM needs a headache like KR and his wacky agent 

Daz000 wrote:

I think Roger thinks Ken is simply too old.

He's younger than Marvin...

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Ob917 wrote:

I’m not sure KTM needs a headache like KR and his wacky agent 

Daz000 wrote:

I think Roger thinks Ken is simply too old.

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He's younger than Marvin...

Age is number. Marvin never has had the intensity or workload of KR. They are retiring Marv. I've boiled it down to a one sentence opinion. It's obviously always more than this. With history taken into account. I think the big brand cougars want young blood. Sexton to KTM , Lawrence to HRC. 

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Not saying KTM made any kind of knee jerk decision, nor do I know and neither do you.  As I said before, the problem here is...

Not saying KTM made any kind of knee jerk decision, nor do I know and neither do you.  As I said before, the problem here is 100% the actions of Astephen.....long before Ping's post.  Astephen's actions in Australia would have never seen the light of day if it had not been for Pings post.....even though the truth came out with the Interview with RacerX.  Great work by Weege.

Don, I usually agree with your take, but hanging Ping over this is just silly.  Should he post click bait?  Hard to say since it's the way to get views/clicks now.  Did it shine light on the actual store eventually and show Astephens true self?  Yep.

 

jemcee wrote:
I just don't know why we NEED to know about Astephens true self? Did his actions in Australia need to see the light of day? It...

I just don't know why we NEED to know about Astephens true self?

Did his actions in Australia need to see the light of day?

It has no bearing on the sport

You don't find it interesting he said his rider takes different supplements during the offseason he would not be allowed to during the season, was carrying...

You don't find it interesting he said his rider takes different supplements during the offseason he would not be allowed to during the season, was carrying pills around for Roczen in an unmarked pill bottle he volunteered to the FIM, had to call the doctor to find out what they were, and then had the team google whether it was on the banned substance list??

Uum somewhat.. It is an interesting topic that the riders 'have to' take certain drugs to be 'normal' in the off season, but the way it was brought up was Kenny is a drug cheat!

"Hey hey I'm not saying Kenny is a drug cheat but Kenny behaved in a way that would suggest he's definitely a drug cheat, why would he behave in a way that proves he's a drug cheat? I'm not saying that I'm just asking the question" (While heavily suggesting he's a drug cheat..) Seems like Ping is taking a page from a certain Fox 'news' anchor

"What if I told you a professional SX rider refused a drug test? What if that rider was well known for having medical problems? What if that rider had just lost a prominent Factory ride because he refused a drug test? Does that sound like something a clean athlete would do? I'm not saying that, I'm just asking the questions"

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12/4/2022 3:51pm
Daz000 wrote:
I thought American Honda's 'no support' was political but maybe they foresaw/ knew what Kenny does. HGH or borderline something offseason. Doesn't take advise, losses his...

I thought American Honda's 'no support' was political but maybe they foresaw/ knew what Kenny does. HGH or borderline something offseason. Doesn't take advise, losses his ride. Gets tested. KTM now assume test will be positive, no ride. Chase Sexton Ivan Drago, ha.

He passed the drug test though ,right? So that would mean that he was not taking anything that wasn't legal. I have not listened to the...

He passed the drug test though ,right? So that would mean that he was not taking anything that wasn't legal. I have not listened to the interview yet, but from all of the posts I see on here, it looks like his agent said No, Did Kenny himself ever say no to the test?  Maybe he was unsure if what Kenny was taking would be legal during the season , or maybe they had a tight travel schedule and taking the test could make them miss a flight? I've heard riders tell stories of being stuck at the track for hours after a race before they could hydrate enough to be able to provide a sample. It seems more of a grey area as to saying he was forced to take the test.  If you say no to something and change your mind and then say yes,  Yes at first you did say no. But that does not mean that you didn't change your mind after learning more about the situation . I think this is one of those times that perspective will dictate the opinion of if Kenny was truly forced or not.  It feels like when I was a kid in 1st or 2nd grade, and all the kids were speculating on how sex works and details. A bunch of people that  are making more geuss' and picking the parts  of the story that fit in with their concept of what happened. My input here is pretty useless. But Again I am thankful for Kenny. What would we all be talking about if not for Kenny.     

Daz000 wrote:
Test goes to the lab. Takes a while to analyse it. Maybe he waited too long and the KTM green light simply turned red. IDK. Ken...

Test goes to the lab. Takes a while to analyse it. Maybe he waited too long and the KTM green light simply turned red. IDK. Ken got tested. His manager stressed. Whether it's jetlag, foreign country with no 23' ride yet, I don't know, but this trepidation at getting a simple mandated FIM drug test screams suspect. 

That's what I figured , that it took a while to get results. In the past its been a long time. Like 6 months or so. I didn't know if there was some faster test now or a quick test and then the lab double checks it.  Somebody must have read that they said the pills were ok and  assumed the test was too?  Or maybe I misread one of the posts. I thought I saw a post that somebody said he passed. But I was skimming to see  if I could find out if it was worth listening to the interview. I agree it looks suspect without knowing more. It just seems like a bad deal all around.  I'll give the interview a listen . It just sounds crazy that at the level they are at , with all the money on the line that his agent would have not read the rules and knew the possibility of testing. 

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Daz000 wrote:
I thought American Honda's 'no support' was political but maybe they foresaw/ knew what Kenny does. HGH or borderline something offseason. Doesn't take advise, losses his...

I thought American Honda's 'no support' was political but maybe they foresaw/ knew what Kenny does. HGH or borderline something offseason. Doesn't take advise, losses his ride. Gets tested. KTM now assume test will be positive, no ride. Chase Sexton Ivan Drago, ha.

kiwifan wrote:

Gee... Honda offered him a contract, he said no...end of

Daz000 wrote:

They offered him no support, advised him not to ride FIM. He did & He cracked it and lost the Honda ride. End of. 

No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal race mechanic to help him for WSX then they did help him a little bit, but certainly they were not obligated to.

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No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal...

No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal race mechanic to help him for WSX then they did help him a little bit, but certainly they were not obligated to.

They offered to reneg. The wsx,fim,bxt,lbt alphabet 2 race series support was agreed to last year. Then honda policymakers back out due to insecurities. Leave him stranded. Hasn't been home in years. The egg is on them. They knew chase was leaving. As for his mechanic, a personal friendship. Ken paid his exspenses. Heck. 2 races. Here's the/a bike. 3 people. Tickets. Go enjoy. Nope. Corporate Honda. They point blank played politics. The offer they gave was turncoat. You can listen to whatever they proposed after the meltdown. 

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Soggy's assertion that, 'have you never said no to your wife and then did it anyway?' somehow negates the initial refusal and the analogy to rape may be crude but, it's accurate. Ping's reporting of the incident was accurate as well. The absence of any apologies to Ping is telling as to the general lack of character on display here. Keep spinning....

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Any chance we can change the name of this thread to something like: Kenny and the Test (my salute to Elton John retiring if it was over your head lol)?  Really anything that didn’t allude to Sexton would be fine with me.  I keep checking in every couple of days for any new info on the Sexton to KTM subject and it’s just more of the same middle school so and so said such and such and called somebody a liar dramafest.

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kiwifan wrote:
No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal...

No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal race mechanic to help him for WSX then they did help him a little bit, but certainly they were not obligated to.

Daz000 wrote:
They offered to reneg. The wsx,fim,bxt,lbt alphabet 2 race series support was agreed to last year. Then honda policymakers back out due to insecurities. Leave him...

They offered to reneg. The wsx,fim,bxt,lbt alphabet 2 race series support was agreed to last year. Then honda policymakers back out due to insecurities. Leave him stranded. Hasn't been home in years. The egg is on them. They knew chase was leaving. As for his mechanic, a personal friendship. Ken paid his exspenses. Heck. 2 races. Here's the/a bike. 3 people. Tickets. Go enjoy. Nope. Corporate Honda. They point blank played politics. The offer they gave was turncoat. You can listen to whatever they proposed after the meltdown. 

take an aspirin and have a lie down

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kiwifan wrote:
No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal...

No, they offered him a contract (which excluded WSX not FIM). He turned it down because he wanted to ride WSX. Given they allowed his normal race mechanic to help him for WSX then they did help him a little bit, but certainly they were not obligated to.

Daz000 wrote:
They offered to reneg. The wsx,fim,bxt,lbt alphabet 2 race series support was agreed to last year. Then honda policymakers back out due to insecurities. Leave him...

They offered to reneg. The wsx,fim,bxt,lbt alphabet 2 race series support was agreed to last year. Then honda policymakers back out due to insecurities. Leave him stranded. Hasn't been home in years. The egg is on them. They knew chase was leaving. As for his mechanic, a personal friendship. Ken paid his exspenses. Heck. 2 races. Here's the/a bike. 3 people. Tickets. Go enjoy. Nope. Corporate Honda. They point blank played politics. The offer they gave was turncoat. You can listen to whatever they proposed after the meltdown. 

kiwifan wrote:

take an aspirin and have a lie down

Thanks, I should.

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He's younger than Marvin...

Would not be surprised if ‘the injuries’, recovery, lasting effects have aged his body a lot more.

Pity as I was rooting for ‘the kid’ to have a great career when he moved to USA 

 

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olds cool wrote:
Any chance we can change the name of this thread to something like: Kenny and the Test (my salute to Elton John retiring if it was...

Any chance we can change the name of this thread to something like: Kenny and the Test (my salute to Elton John retiring if it was over your head lol)?  Really anything that didn’t allude to Sexton would be fine with me.  I keep checking in every couple of days for any new info on the Sexton to KTM subject and it’s just more of the same middle school so and so said such and such and called somebody a liar dramafest.

I thought about typing out the stutter like in the song, but then I thought better of typing out 3 of the first letter in Kenny's name. This thread has taken enough turns.

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This is my first account. Don't talk to me again unless its a meetup spot or a picture of that beer gut

McG194 wrote:
I'm just catching up on all this but let me get this straight, you want to fight this guy unless he gives you material for the...

I'm just catching up on all this but let me get this straight, you want to fight this guy unless he gives you material for the spank bank?  

Or am I reading this wrong?

Jrey2 wrote:

You think like a homo....... any reason why?

Did a mod finally click this gem? 

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This thread continues to deliver.

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DunnySeat wrote:

This thread continues to deliver.

Everything but news on Sexton 🤦

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Jason Anderson left while he was still on Husky, Marvin Musquin left, Webb left(now returned). I think Osborne left before he retired, Barcia doesn’t train there…

I can tell you now Sexton will be required to train at Aldons as part of the deal. 

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Just when you think, nothing crazier could be added to this dumpster fire of a thread, the rape comparison pops up. I will admit it, I...

Just when you think, nothing crazier could be added to this dumpster fire of a thread, the rape comparison pops up. I will admit it, I did not see that coming. I underestimated the bat shit craziness of vital. My New Year’s resolution, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE Vital. 👍

Just when you think the level of intelligent communication is on the uptick here... Huh

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12/10/2022 7:32am Edited Date/Time 12/10/2022 8:15am

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Edit

Nothing official will come out until his current contract is over, so probably October 2023.  Who knows if it is locked in yet anyway or just rumors.

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Nothing official will come out until his current contract is over, so probably October 2023.  Who knows if it is locked in yet anyway or just...

Nothing official will come out until his current contract is over, so probably October 2023.  Who knows if it is locked in yet anyway or just rumors.

Edited.

Not sure if delete a working 

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I was laughed at:

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jesus christ what an eyesore this thread was to try and find any answers.

 

So uh, has Chase signed with KTM or not?

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jesus christ what an eyesore this thread was to try and find any answers.

 

So uh, has Chase signed with KTM or not?

yes

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