2023 KTM SX300 Official Thread

11/20/2022 7:12pm Edited Date/Time 11/20/2022 7:13pm
Sounds like the power delivery of the xc and sx are totally the same, just different tranny.
Nope
I own both
The mapping is different for sure
Along with the transmissions having different ratios, not just and added 6th gear in the XC.
11/20/2022 7:14pm
wrc777 wrote:
I wrote that long pipe improves low end torque not long silencer. Long silencer reduces the hit.
You are correct in your evaluation.
11/20/2022 7:17pm Edited Date/Time 11/20/2022 9:14pm
Hcallz5 wrote:
Did they figure anything out about the fuel delivery issues? Someone said they got 30 miles to a tank on one which seems absurd.
I’ve ridden 45 on my XC with no issues. I still had plenty of gas, I’m sure I could go 60. This is 3/4 technical riding with some hill climbs mixed in…
But the YouTube videos of guys running out with gas still in the tank are concerning.

https://youtu.be/E0CHmWWFTVg
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11/21/2022 6:09am
There are a million variables when it comes to mileage. In my area its generally super tight and twisty trails where you're lucky to ever get out of third gear and half throttle. I can do a 2 hour hare scramble no problem. But then when I rode in Utah with lots of high speed blasting it was far less mileage. And obviously skill level and riding style makes a huge difference. I do think my TPI bike got a bit worse milage than my old carb bike so maybe TBI is another step in that direction.

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Lol I was like damn, all these years I’ve been wrong🤣 I rode my house track today, completely different conditions than my race weekend with deep...
Lol I was like damn, all these years I’ve been wrong🤣 I rode my house track today, completely different conditions than my race weekend with deep loam and ruts. Still loving every second of this thing!
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I had another good day on my XC, love that bike !

Taking out the SX tomorrow, not sure I’ll get much sleep. Can’t wait
... how was the new 300SX?
11/21/2022 8:08pm
Rider 5280 wrote:
... how was the new 300SX?
For starters, my bike has the FMF fatty with the 2.1 Ti silencer, but other than that, motor is stock and I kept the 14/49 gearing on it as well.
I put Cone valve forks and a Trax shock on it, because I’ve gotten spoiled to having good suspension and that’s just what I do… I also swapped the triple clamps for the x-trig clamps and changed the bars to a Pro-Taper EVO bar. Other than that, nothing else I’ve changed should make the bike feel any different than a stock bike.
I’ve been riding my XC300 up in the tight/technical terrain and I am blown away at how good the bike is.
I have not been to the track since June or July and I went to a track that I haven’t been to in a long time and the layout was all new. There were 3X as many people there than usual and the track got pretty rough. With a brand new bike with new cone valve forks and a Trax shock, the bike was definitely a little stiff and that will get better with a little time on it.

The motor-
Holy shit, this bike has an enormous midrange/ torque that is smooth, yet very robust ! It will take some time to get use to, no doubt. Just like the XC, it can be lugged in 3rd gear in the corners and it just pulls without any clutch work and when I say pulls, it really gets your attention. It doesn’t feel like you’re riding a 2-stroke, other than the bitchen sound from the FMF Fatty with the 2.1 Silencer I installed. It wants to be short shifted, but I found myself in 3rd and 4th gear All day. The track has one long straight with a big booter in the back section and I did get into 5th gear, but didn’t have to… I don’t think I ever ended up in 2nd, other than taking off from my van. This motor is really something else, I can’t wait to ride it again, hopefully at a more familiar track and not tired from riding OffRoad from the day before.
The thing I really screwed up on was not trying the mellow (white) map, I think this would have really helped me get used to the bike, not sure why I didn’t think to switch it, but I will start off with the white map next time, to ease into it.

The chassis-
As I mentioned, I’ve got 5 rides on my XC and I have ZERO complaints on the bike, happy with everything, including the new frame/ chassis. The bike is so nimble and light, it’s a pleasure riding it and it’s made me a better rider already.
The SX-
The bike felt tight, but in all fairness, I didn’t set the sag, although it was pretty close, but no idea where it sat. This could’ve played into the stiff feel of the forks, but they are set up different than the ones on my XC300, so I expected them to be stiffer.
I backed off the motor mounts 5nm from the torque in the manual to help with the feel, which I also did on the XC. I’ll revisit that, once I have some time on it. My cornering skills were NOT on point, I’ve been riding too much OffRoad and I was not comfortable with the ruts and I usually am on my 350, so I will have to see how the next ride goes.
I’m hoping that with the sag set at 108 and feeling fresh and not worn out from the previous ride day, I’ll have a better idea on how it feels in the corners.
The bike took a little getting used to jumping the bigger jumps, I had to pay attention to the speed I was hitting the face of the jumps, it’s different than a normal 2-stroke and a 4-stroke as well. This is just something I’ll need to adapt to, it’s got a lot of torque and I over jumped a few of the jumps until I got the hang of it. I did get comfortable on it doing the bigger jumps and the bike feels really nimble and I found myself moving it around a lot in the air, without really trying. I don’t really whip the bike much and it kinda wants to be thrown sideways. Lol

Overall assessment-
It’s an incredible machine and I have no doubt that in the right hands with a fast local pro speed, this bike can compete with 450’s for sure. It has way more power than my SXF350 did and I had a vortex with Jamie’s maps and a FMF system on it. I was really comfortable on that bike and I hope I can get there with this bike.
The 14/49 gearing is just fine for me, I will not be changing it. If I did I’d be going down to a 47 or 48, which just seems really whack, but I don’t desire anymore power from this bike at all.

I’ll have a much better assessment on the bike after a couple more rides, but KTM has really done a great job on these bikes
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11/21/2022 9:37pm
Thanks for the info - great report! It will be neat to see how things progress with break-in and adapting.
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11/23/2022 9:29am
Not stoked with the new seat setup…cover wearing through after 2 rides… seems to be rubbing on the subframe rail…

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11/23/2022 9:51am
sandman768 wrote:
Not stoked with the new seat setup…cover wearing through after 2 rides… seems to be rubbing on the subframe rail… [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578100/s1200_7FB08E36_C508_4931_B493_4A87D0EE1A4B.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578101/s1200_B3C31E78_3170_46A4_A7C1_BC04F0C1FDEE.jpg[/img]
Not stoked with the new seat setup…cover wearing through after 2 rides… seems to be rubbing on the subframe rail…

Maybe loosen the subframe bolts and re torque to make sure the subframe is aligned properly?
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11/23/2022 10:29am
vdrsnk04 wrote:
Negative. Shorty is for bottom end. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/19/577391/s1200_1649A1D2_1BEE_440B_BE54_58CAC104FAE7.jpg[/img]
Negative. Shorty is for bottom end.


Langhammx wrote:
Well… I suppose I had it wrong. Lol I do know that the hard enduro guys prefer the longer silencers, so I was under the impression...
Well… I suppose I had it wrong. Lol
I do know that the hard enduro guys prefer the longer silencers, so I was under the impression that it was to get better bottom end. But in fact it is to smooth out the power.
Had it all wrong…
You aren't necessarily wrong mate, it's a general thing and some bikes react differently. Also, the silencer length is what you see, but core and outlet diameter are crucial also so direct comparison is hard.

Funny thing is, KTM engines are fast stock so they can't do this with crap pipes or reeds or carbs (although they've had some funny carb settings. on the 2018 sx150, all silencers apart from pc shorty lost power over stock. Most pipes did also aside from fmf fatty. I've also seen 450s with aftermarket pipes no better than stock. Vforce and other stuff did little also on 150. Everyone says the stock reeds look bad from new, but the bikes run great.
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11/23/2022 10:43am
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt.


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stonerb wrote:
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578107/s1200_TC250_small.jpg[/img]
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt.


Initially I wasn’t a fan of the plastics on the back half of the new husky’s but it’s growing on me.
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11/23/2022 11:44am
stonerb wrote:
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578107/s1200_TC250_small.jpg[/img]
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt.


soggy wrote:
Initially I wasn’t a fan of the plastics on the back half of the new husky’s but it’s growing on me.
Nice to be able to fit numbers...
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11/23/2022 12:51pm
soggy wrote:
Maybe loosen the subframe bolts and re torque to make sure the subframe is aligned properly?
Subframe is fine, it’s composite plastic & flat where the seat lays on it, The seat pan is sharp where the cover is pulled over it, just a bad spot to have a sharp corner on the seat pan… I glued 2 small pieces of old inner tube rubber to the top of the subframe, but it’s a design flaw with seat pan. If I was to replace the cover, I would take a grinder & smooth out the sharp spot on the pan…
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11/23/2022 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2022 12:58pm
sandman768 wrote:
Subframe is fine, it’s composite plastic & flat where the seat lays on it, The seat pan is sharp where the cover is pulled over it...
Subframe is fine, it’s composite plastic & flat where the seat lays on it, The seat pan is sharp where the cover is pulled over it, just a bad spot to have a sharp corner on the seat pan… I glued 2 small pieces of old inner tube rubber to the top of the subframe, but it’s a design flaw with seat pan. If I was to replace the cover, I would take a grinder & smooth out the sharp spot on the pan…
I just bought a Seat Concepts foam and cover kit. Their complete seats won’t be available until January. In their instructions, it says to take sand paper (or equivalent) to smooth out the sharp edges, before attaching their cover to the stock seat pan.
I bought the FE seat for mine and haven’t had any kind of tearing yet, I have 5 rides on the XC and only 1 ride on the SX, but both seats look to be ok still.
I’ll replace the stock cover and foam on my stock seat and replace it with the Seat Concepts. I’ll make sure to sand down the edges of the pan, before I staple the cover on.
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11/23/2022 1:55pm
stonerb wrote:
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578107/s1200_TC250_small.jpg[/img]
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt.


soggy wrote:
Initially I wasn’t a fan of the plastics on the back half of the new husky’s but it’s growing on me.
Yeah man, I think it's a pretty good looking bike.
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11/23/2022 2:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2022 2:51pm
I ran the fmf setup on my 300xc today at Cahuilla. Factory fatty with the Ti 2.1 shorty. I also added the vented airbox cover. Holly wowser now we are in business. I actually hurt my back riding it lol! I felt the midrange was even stronger and the bike did for sure rev out farther. Perfect for blowing up deep cahuilla berms.
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11/23/2022 4:29pm
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I ran the fmf setup on my 300xc today at Cahuilla. Factory fatty with the Ti 2.1 shorty. I also added the vented airbox cover. Holly...
I ran the fmf setup on my 300xc today at Cahuilla. Factory fatty with the Ti 2.1 shorty. I also added the vented airbox cover. Holly wowser now we are in business. I actually hurt my back riding it lol! I felt the midrange was even stronger and the bike did for sure rev out farther. Perfect for blowing up deep cahuilla berms.
Ok, that makes more sense. I didn’t even ride it with the stock pipe and silencer, or the non vented air box cover. I’m looking forward to riding Cajuilla, I may go this weekend, if they are open.
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11/23/2022 4:30pm
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Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578107/s1200_TC250_small.jpg[/img]
Not a KTM or a 300, but here's my TC250 before it hit the dirt.


soggy wrote:
Initially I wasn’t a fan of the plastics on the back half of the new husky’s but it’s growing on me.
stonerb wrote:
Yeah man, I think it's a pretty good looking bike.
Agree. It’s the best looking Husky so far, IMO
11/25/2022 4:22am
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts.

Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or a KYB conversion.
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mxrider118 wrote:
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts. Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or...
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts.

Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or a KYB conversion.
What do you ride and what is your skill level?
The 6500’s are a great fork insert for most. Tyler Medaglia was running KYB the last couple of seasons and recently switched to 6500’s over KYB and CV’s. He mentioned that the 6500’s give him more front end traction than the KYB’s. He seems pretty happy.
Components are high quality and they seem to be way easier to find a good setting that works for the rider than XACT Pro’s.
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11/25/2022 6:48am
sandman768 wrote:
Not stoked with the new seat setup…cover wearing through after 2 rides… seems to be rubbing on the subframe rail… [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578100/s1200_7FB08E36_C508_4931_B493_4A87D0EE1A4B.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/23/578101/s1200_B3C31E78_3170_46A4_A7C1_BC04F0C1FDEE.jpg[/img]
Not stoked with the new seat setup…cover wearing through after 2 rides… seems to be rubbing on the subframe rail…

Tell me, the seat on these bikes is held on with one bolt that goes into a threaded insert in the tank? Kinda like how rad shrouds are held on to most bikes for eons? If so, seems kinda silly for a bolt that is frequently removed. Having bad nightmares of stuck threads and inserts spinning in the tank.....
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11/25/2022 7:11am
mxrider118 wrote:
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts. Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or...
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts.

Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or a KYB conversion.
swordfish wrote:
What do you ride and what is your skill level? The 6500’s are a great fork insert for most. Tyler Medaglia was running KYB the last...
What do you ride and what is your skill level?
The 6500’s are a great fork insert for most. Tyler Medaglia was running KYB the last couple of seasons and recently switched to 6500’s over KYB and CV’s. He mentioned that the 6500’s give him more front end traction than the KYB’s. He seems pretty happy.
Components are high quality and they seem to be way easier to find a good setting that works for the rider than XACT Pro’s.
For moto and offroad?
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11/25/2022 7:59am Edited Date/Time 11/25/2022 8:00am
mxrider118 wrote:
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts. Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or...
Has anyone put a KYB conversion in one of these and has riding time to share their thoughts.

Need some input on either 6500s, CV's or a KYB conversion.
swordfish wrote:
What do you ride and what is your skill level? The 6500’s are a great fork insert for most. Tyler Medaglia was running KYB the last...
What do you ride and what is your skill level?
The 6500’s are a great fork insert for most. Tyler Medaglia was running KYB the last couple of seasons and recently switched to 6500’s over KYB and CV’s. He mentioned that the 6500’s give him more front end traction than the KYB’s. He seems pretty happy.
Components are high quality and they seem to be way easier to find a good setting that works for the rider than XACT Pro’s.
For moto and offroad?
Both. He posted recently about them here in another thread.
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11/25/2022 8:34am
Langhammx wrote:
Agree. It’s the best looking Husky so far, IMO
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

I find the grey plastic to be ghastly.

Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite nice :

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11/25/2022 8:44am
FGR01 wrote:
Tell me, the seat on these bikes is held on with one bolt that goes into a threaded insert in the tank? Kinda like how rad...
Tell me, the seat on these bikes is held on with one bolt that goes into a threaded insert in the tank? Kinda like how rad shrouds are held on to most bikes for eons? If so, seems kinda silly for a bolt that is frequently removed. Having bad nightmares of stuck threads and inserts spinning in the tank.....
Yes, not a very good design IMO….. anti seize on the threads & tighten gently….
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11/25/2022 9:16am
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. I find the grey plastic to be ghastly. Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

I find the grey plastic to be ghastly.

Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite nice :

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They both look good to me, but I was referring to the plastics shape on the new bike. I haven’t been a big fan of the plastics on the Husky bikes.

Graphics and plastics color are a whole different discussion, but I’m not much for white plastics, especially the whole bike… but I’m sure it’s appealing to some.
I change all my plastics to orange on my KTM’s, then keep the graphics very simple. Just what I like, that’s why they make several colors of plastics.
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11/25/2022 9:19am
sandman768 wrote:
Yes, not a very good design IMO….. anti seize on the threads & tighten gently….
Yeah, I can see people getting carried away with tightening this screw. The seat is plenty secure with the way it mounts, the screw doesn’t need to be overly tight
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Langhammx wrote:
They both look good to me, but I was referring to the plastics shape on the new bike. I haven’t been a big fan of the...
They both look good to me, but I was referring to the plastics shape on the new bike. I haven’t been a big fan of the plastics on the Husky bikes.

Graphics and plastics color are a whole different discussion, but I’m not much for white plastics, especially the whole bike… but I’m sure it’s appealing to some.
I change all my plastics to orange on my KTM’s, then keep the graphics very simple. Just what I like, that’s why they make several colors of plastics.
You keep the graphics very simple - well, I guess you do compared to so many peoples 'artwork' !

But, flamin' heck / hooly dooly, langhammx , on a brief, far from accurate count I just made, I reckon you've got over 50 brand names / emblems on (each of) those Beautiful bikes. Woohoo And yes, I realize that most are on big, custom made decal panels. Cool

Me, I thought I just had the 5 on my ancient old thing, but No, I realized that there is an Acerbis decal on the front disc guard, and, I have a strip of duct tape on the rear fender to cover my number plate, that's there to place if there are cameras / 'concerned citizens' with mobile phones that think I'm not supposed to be on trails that I've ridden on for more than 5 decades.

As far as I know, everywhere I go is legal, especially with a legit plate, and an as quiet as a grumpy mouse exhaust, but you never know when the rabid greenies have decided to close off an area, from we tax payers, without telling us. It's getting a bit silly in the Blue Mountains - places that have had roads and trails in them, for at least a hundred + years, that never change, well, they are now designating as Wilderness.

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