Brayton Post Race Interview about Friese

scott_nz 10/24/2022 8:03pm
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jbrown15 wrote:
Well I doubt MCR would be onboard with this.
Mike Genova has doubled down in dumb shit before. So it wouldn’t surprise me if he brushes this off
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Bruce372 10/24/2022 8:17pm
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Is betting on this race allowed? If so, the legal ramifications go well beyond a bunch of hillbillys lining up their dirtbikes!

I from England where every highstreet has a couple of bookies and there are massive issues when people get caught fixing sports.

Crazy shit if true. If MCR don't drop him, that looks very bad if it's true.
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Gravel 10/24/2022 8:22pm
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I didn’t think it was possible dislike Friese more than I did last week, but he found a way..
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motodad805 10/24/2022 8:33pm
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If he didn’t get the hint from Peick about his race craft in ‘17 I doubt he’s changed.
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BobbyM wrote:
Seems like a head game Vince pulled at the gate. Why would he say something right next to Justin? He would offer a "bribe" the in...
Seems like a head game Vince pulled at the gate. Why would he say something right next to Justin? He would offer a "bribe" the in the shitter before the race don't ya think? But I suppose it's good off season fodder for the Chatty Cathy vital brigade.
Tell it to Brayton and Harlan, Perry Mason.
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Bacon_n_Egg'r 10/24/2022 9:56pm
10/24/2022 9:56pm
Frontier justice is what Vince needs. The AMA has tried and it has not been enough. We need a guy like Bowers back on the gate to just torpedo him and break his tib/fib. And I say this as a guy who has chatted with Vince a couple of times at the races and off the bike he is a really nice guy. But with the helmet on, he's a dangerous loon ball.

100% I knew something crazy would go down with Vince in Melbourne, but I expected it to be against Roczen.
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JJive 10/24/2022 10:18pm
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Friese getting Friesed on this one
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Lasergate 2.0
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NorCalRedRyder 10/24/2022 10:33pm
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jbrown15 wrote:
Well I doubt MCR would be onboard with this.
Really? After lazergate nothing would surprise me with this team. Genova, Tony, and Jeff were definetly in on Lazergate. I kinda feel like Mike wasn't to be honest. But I would not to be surprised one bit if the team was involved with this situation. The only thing that confuses me was why they would have their B rider take out their A rider.
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Magoofan 10/24/2022 10:33pm
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If you look real close, you can see the proof on the pitboard....


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motoman617 10/24/2022 11:01pm
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carver wrote:
How can Honda allow their name to be associated with Motoconcepts after this?
jbrown15 wrote:
Well I doubt MCR would be onboard with this.
Well now would be a good time for them to step up and do the right thing.
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jbrown15 10/24/2022 11:13pm
10/24/2022 11:13pm Edited Date/Time 10/24/2022 11:18pm
jbrown15 wrote:
Well I doubt MCR would be onboard with this.
NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Really? After lazergate nothing would surprise me with this team. Genova, Tony, and Jeff were definetly in on Lazergate. I kinda feel like Mike wasn't to...
Really? After lazergate nothing would surprise me with this team. Genova, Tony, and Jeff were definetly in on Lazergate. I kinda feel like Mike wasn't to be honest. But I would not to be surprised one bit if the team was involved with this situation. The only thing that confuses me was why they would have their B rider take out their A rider.
Why would they want Vince to take him out and potentially both of them? Plus JB was on a straight salary deal for WSX from what’s been said while Vince was on a different pay structure. So MCR would have to pay him a bonus meanwhile not having to pay JB a bonus. At least that’s what’s been discussed on Pulp.

The craziest part of JB’s Pulp interview had to be when Vince was telling JB he’s just being a baby because he’s a better rider than JB…..lol

What planet is he on if he believes that….lol
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JDub067 10/24/2022 11:21pm
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Friese needs a ban to show he is being held to account. MCR needs to spend whatever it takes to get Kenny there for next season, I think he and Tony would make a formidable combination
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MKMX wrote:
Ok, so let’s say the FIM bans him…. Is it then up to the AMA to step in, follow suit and ban him for something that...
Ok, so let’s say the FIM bans him…. Is it then up to the AMA to step in, follow suit and ban him for something that didn’t happen in their series.. that would get rather sticky, no?

Personally I don’t think a rider like Friese, who would offer another rider money to take someone out, has a place in dirt bike racing at all.
Depends. Sometimes you have organs in the world that reaches over the normal sanction body.

Like when a rider are caught with doping etc, but with this new pissing contest between AMA and WSX i would not be surpriced if AMA embraced Vince with open arms just to keep him away from WSX..
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NorCalRedRyder 10/25/2022 12:26am
10/25/2022 12:26am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2022 12:28am
There has to be a reason guys like Malcolm, Hill, etc. couldn't get away quick enough from a team that is as close to riding for a factory team asap. Why have they stayed loyal to Vince for so long? Lot's of questions regarding that team. Not quite factory, but better than any other B team? Yet rider's can't get away quick enough. Random.
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scott_nz 10/25/2022 12:52am
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Tumic wrote:
Depends. Sometimes you have organs in the world that reaches over the normal sanction body. Like when a rider are caught with doping etc, but with...
Depends. Sometimes you have organs in the world that reaches over the normal sanction body.

Like when a rider are caught with doping etc, but with this new pissing contest between AMA and WSX i would not be surpriced if AMA embraced Vince with open arms just to keep him away from WSX..
Ama is part of the fim , I would be surprised if the ama would not enforce a fim ban

However I would be surprised if the fim does anything too
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Tumic wrote:
Depends. Sometimes you have organs in the world that reaches over the normal sanction body. Like when a rider are caught with doping etc, but with...
Depends. Sometimes you have organs in the world that reaches over the normal sanction body.

Like when a rider are caught with doping etc, but with this new pissing contest between AMA and WSX i would not be surpriced if AMA embraced Vince with open arms just to keep him away from WSX..
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Ama is part of the fim , I would be surprised if the ama would not enforce a fim ban However I would be surprised if...
Ama is part of the fim , I would be surprised if the ama would not enforce a fim ban

However I would be surprised if the fim does anything too
Pretty sure the ama is still under the fim and any fim bans the ama would follow.
Just like the bans on Russian athletes. The ama said they only followed the ban coz of the fim.
And if a rider gets banned for doping all fim governed championships follow the ban. A normal suspension woyld be no different.
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locky144 10/25/2022 1:23am
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Vince’s mum didn’t give him enough hugs as a kid
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CPR 10/25/2022 1:26am
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Can anyone think of a precedent for this sort of situation in moto?
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Bearuno 10/25/2022 1:42am
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CPR wrote:
Can anyone think of a precedent for this sort of situation in moto?
Various Russian riders taking out Falta?

Yes, I know it was quite different, but, they were, on CZs, for the most part, even if Moisseev was on a KTM.

I'd say their antics didn't have a cash incentive behind it, but more like a "bullet behind the ear", or, a bit of a journey to Siberia.......
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Richy 10/25/2022 1:46am
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CPR wrote:
Can anyone think of a precedent for this sort of situation in moto?
Bearuno wrote:
Various Russian riders taking out Falta? Yes, I know it was quite different, but, they were, on CZs, for the most part, even if Moisseev was...
Various Russian riders taking out Falta?

Yes, I know it was quite different, but, they were, on CZs, for the most part, even if Moisseev was on a KTM.

I'd say their antics didn't have a cash incentive behind it, but more like a "bullet behind the ear", or, a bit of a journey to Siberia.......
From riding moto to working a Siberian mine would definitely be quite a career change... I can understand those Ruski's incentive far easier than I can understand Vince's.

Putting this kind of heat on yourself for some extra money (he must still be doing alright financially?) and a chance at a title that will always have a mark next to it as a two-round first-season... Crazy.
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fpandjic 10/25/2022 1:53am
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RG1 wrote:
I completely believe that Friese would offer people money to take guys out in this situation, but even if we all believe it, it’s just one...
I completely believe that Friese would offer people money to take guys out in this situation, but even if we all believe it, it’s just one persons word vs another really and hard to prove. However, if I was MotoConcepts I would fire him anyway regardless if he did or not. The main thing is that the team went into the last race of the championship 1 & 2 in points with a great chance of winning a world title and he took them both down 100m into the race and completely threw their chances away, if that isn’t enough to fire him then I don’t know what is
jbrown15 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxn4np_mHMk
After listening to the whole interview, I'm just amazed by two things - stupidness of Friese and how much efforts Brayton gives to the team (designing graphics, talking to sponsors, Honda...)
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bens152 10/25/2022 1:59am
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I just don’t know if I see the FIM banning a title contender like Feeezer. Take him out and Kenny will have no main title rival.
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RaceFace58 10/25/2022 4:04am
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This isn’t a team sport. Vince took his shot and missed. I’d be pissed too if I was JB though. Vince will never have another opportunity...
This isn’t a team sport. Vince took his shot and missed. I’d be pissed too if I was JB though. Vince will never have another opportunity like that, and I’m sure he knew it. Oh well, at least it happened in a slow part of the track and neither of them were hurt.

Bonehead gonna bonehead. Stoked to see how Vince does on 250’s again this year though
I won’t be surprised if he can’t find a ride after it being confirmed that he wanted to take a hit out on Brayton. Friese cannot live this one down. No more can it ever be claimed a racing incident. Offering $2,000 to another rider to take out your teammate? Unreal.
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NorCalRedRyder wrote:
There has to be a reason guys like Malcolm, Hill, etc. couldn't get away quick enough from a team that is as close to riding for...
There has to be a reason guys like Malcolm, Hill, etc. couldn't get away quick enough from a team that is as close to riding for a factory team asap. Why have they stayed loyal to Vince for so long? Lot's of questions regarding that team. Not quite factory, but better than any other B team? Yet rider's can't get away quick enough. Random.
I think Friese may be the 3rd Alessi brother. He looks like them.
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gregyou 10/25/2022 4:24am
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Is there any info on who won the fight after the race?
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Pittburgh106 10/25/2022 4:36am
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I never thought I view a pro rider as pathetic. Vince Friese and his actions are pathetic. He's less of a man than most for not owning what he does. He's a pathetic man. No one is talking about the elephant in the room, what if Brayton was injured, then what happens in this situation. Vince is a pathetic little man. This is ridiculous. He's the kind of guy that does suicide by cop because he's a pathetic man who is pathetic.
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404namedoesnotexist@gmail.com 10/25/2022 4:51am
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Should it be proven that Friese & mechanic went full Tonya Harding and offered a rider cash to take out and possibly injure JB10 then they both and the team should be heavily fined and Friese and mechanic suspended for 2 years from all competition. Period. There is no room for such thuggery in moto.
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Payup_199 10/25/2022 5:33am
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well Brayton back to FirePower Honda for 2023 WSX... Dizzy
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HonDawg17 10/25/2022 5:38am
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Wow. I never thought I could hate this guy more. He's just a turd stain on this sport. Needs to be banned for life if hes trying to pay off guys to take people out. That malicious intent. This is a serious matter that needs to be taken care of professionally. They NEED to make an example out of this idiot. More guys have had their careers screwed over for less charges, banned 18 months by FIM of "doping". When they finally get to the hearing 18 months later, they prove they never doped and FIM says "oh okay, you can go back to racing then". Its complete misuse of power and ruins guys careers when they never deserved it. Meanwhile this moron deserves to burn for his constant on track antics nearly every round. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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