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Metz 10/5/2022 7:13am
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Supercross website says tickets go on sale Oct 11. When are track maps typically available? I obviously don’t expect it to be available already, just wondering if there’s a time when they are typically revealed.
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Who the hell is paying for Gas? FL to TX back to FL up to IN over to MI back out west to WA down to...
Who the hell is paying for Gas? FL to TX back to FL up to IN over to MI back out west to WA down to AZ then back east to GA?

Are they offering Blue Chips again for gas?
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly.

Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What if a SX only rider wins the SX championship then what they don't get to do the last 3 SX’s?
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stremme12 10/5/2022 8:03am
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Tiki wrote:
Who the hell is paying for Gas? FL to TX back to FL up to IN over to MI back out west to WA down to...
Who the hell is paying for Gas? FL to TX back to FL up to IN over to MI back out west to WA down to AZ then back east to GA?

Are they offering Blue Chips again for gas?
lumpy790 wrote:
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly. Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What...
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly.

Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What if a SX only rider wins the SX championship then what they don't get to do the last 3 SX’s?
I'm going to assume anyone winning a SX championship will have a SX win which enters them into the playoff automatically.

It's happened in the lites class before when Ferry won the Championship without a win but I'm not sure it's ever happened in the premier class. For the most part 250 riders are not SX only riders.
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Sad to see no PetCo Park, the new stadium only holds 35k and is a college stadium so the track is gonna be tighter and more...
Sad to see no PetCo Park, the new stadium only holds 35k and is a college stadium so the track is gonna be tighter and more basic than even Salt Lake and Denver were last year. Is it just me or are these tracks getting way to simple compared to how they used to be in the RV days. Ngl, I'm gonna be waiting for SX to wrap up once again for Outdoors to start seeing some real racing.
Snap Dragon Stadium

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lostboy819 10/5/2022 9:18am
10/5/2022 9:18am
bonseff wrote:
When I see these schedules I always can't help but see it through the lens of the team's big rig drivers, and then be like, is...
When I see these schedules I always can't help but see it through the lens of the team's big rig drivers, and then be like, is this the most efficient planning?
Truck drivers are paid to drive, they dont give a damn how "efficient" the schedule is.
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moonpies 10/5/2022 9:26am
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Layton wrote:
No word on the tv package?
DonM wrote:
Peacock
No NBC or USA?

That sucks
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zookrider62! 10/5/2022 9:31am
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did they announce which rounds were triple crowns?
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DonM 10/5/2022 9:32am
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Layton wrote:
No word on the tv package?
DonM wrote:
Peacock
moonpies wrote:
No NBC or USA?

That sucks
There will be some races on both NBC and USA but all will be on Peacock
Graybeard 10/5/2022 10:43am
10/5/2022 10:43am
lumpy790 wrote:
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly. Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What...
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly.

Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What if a SX only rider wins the SX championship then what they don't get to do the last 3 SX’s?
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX race winners this year, only Austin Forkner would not have scored enough points to make the SMX playoffs. So it is possible that an SX-only race winner doesn't make it to the SMX finals, but I'm sure anyone "close" would line up for an outdoor national to earn enough points to put them in the SMX show.
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GForce MMG 10/5/2022 10:51am
10/5/2022 10:51am
Maybe Feld can negotiate with Glen Helen for one of the tbd hybrid rounds. Put in some stadium whoops, rhythm sections, supercross triple and run the rest of the track?
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stremme12 10/5/2022 10:53am
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lumpy790 wrote:
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly. Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What...
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly.

Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What if a SX only rider wins the SX championship then what they don't get to do the last 3 SX’s?
Graybeard wrote:
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX...
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX race winners this year, only Austin Forkner would not have scored enough points to make the SMX playoffs. So it is possible that an SX-only race winner doesn't make it to the SMX finals, but I'm sure anyone "close" would line up for an outdoor national to earn enough points to put them in the SMX show.
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

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Graybeard 10/5/2022 11:10am
10/5/2022 11:10am
stremme12 wrote:
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

Sorry if it's wrong, was just passing along what I heard / knew. Is there a clause that an SX round or MX round overall winner automatically gets into the SMX playoffs?
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zookrider62! wrote:
did they announce which rounds were triple crowns?
Arlington, Anaheim 2 and Glendale
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zookrider62! 10/5/2022 11:19am
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did they announce which rounds were triple crowns?
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Arlington, Anaheim 2 and Glendale
thank you!
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Racerman967 10/5/2022 11:21am
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So is this the return of the Blue plate yellow 1? Or if you win a SX championship you get a red plate and out doors gets a red plate plus the playoffs. If not who cares about any of the races before the playoffs??? Great you went perfect in the outdoors but had a mechanical in the first playoff you are screwed.

This is the problem with any racing playoff. The regular season becomes almost meaningless because the top guys will be in the playoffs in this scenario. I remember a few years ago in Drag racing Erica Enders skipped 3 races because she was locked into the playoffs and still won the title. Are you going to see 7-10 guys skip the last 3-4 outdoors because they are locked in and don't want to get hurt and cost themselves big money???
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USA 10/5/2022 11:23am
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lumpy790 wrote:
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly. Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What...
Quick look its 10 trips across the USA plus the up and down. 50,000-60,000 miles? Not really privateer friendly.

Guess SX only riders don’t matter? What if a SX only rider wins the SX championship then what they don't get to do the last 3 SX’s?
Graybeard wrote:
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX...
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX race winners this year, only Austin Forkner would not have scored enough points to make the SMX playoffs. So it is possible that an SX-only race winner doesn't make it to the SMX finals, but I'm sure anyone "close" would line up for an outdoor national to earn enough points to put them in the SMX show.
stremme12 wrote:
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

That's not what they said in the press conference.

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stremme12 10/5/2022 11:27am
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Graybeard wrote:
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX...
Steve Matthes had a "Reaction" podcast about the press conference I listened to this morning, and they did the math which found that of the SX race winners this year, only Austin Forkner would not have scored enough points to make the SMX playoffs. So it is possible that an SX-only race winner doesn't make it to the SMX finals, but I'm sure anyone "close" would line up for an outdoor national to earn enough points to put them in the SMX show.
stremme12 wrote:
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.


It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
Graybeard 10/5/2022 11:34am
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stremme12 wrote:
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.

stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
I just listened to ML's interview with Prather and he said 21st-30th in points and race / overall winners get into the LCQ for each of the SMX playoffs, so technically they are "in" for that opportunity. But that sounds different than what you posted, so I'm all ears for what the correct answer is! And just excited to see it coming on Peacock again!

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stremme12 wrote:
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.

stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for the playoffs and can race in the LCQ for the final 2 gate picks.

Automatically seeded ≠ Qualified

Top 20 in overall combined points are automatically seeded. 21-30, or Race Winners not in the top 30 are qualified to come race their way in.

https://youtu.be/NgX6bAhkdF4
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Racerman967 10/5/2022 11:42am
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stremme12 wrote:
That's wrong information you're putting out there. If you're a SX race winner or National overall winner you automatically qualify.

USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.

stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
So you could win Anaheim 1 and be in the playoffs??? Why risk getting hurt then?? Ken could be a privateer, win Anaheim 1 and say "see you in September"
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stremme12 10/5/2022 11:45am
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USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.

stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
USA wrote:
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for...
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for the playoffs and can race in the LCQ for the final 2 gate picks.

Automatically seeded ≠ Qualified

Top 20 in overall combined points are automatically seeded. 21-30, or Race Winners not in the top 30 are qualified to come race their way in.

https://youtu.be/NgX6bAhkdF4
I think all we have is a context issue here. If you win a SX or MX overall you will be at the 3 SMX races.
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DonM 10/5/2022 12:02pm
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USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.

stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
Racerman967 wrote:
So you could win Anaheim 1 and be in the playoffs??? Why risk getting hurt then?? Ken could be a privateer, win Anaheim 1 and say...
So you could win Anaheim 1 and be in the playoffs??? Why risk getting hurt then?? Ken could be a privateer, win Anaheim 1 and say "see you in September"
Because you are seeded into the playoffs by your points total for SX and MX and if you are the points leader at that time you will begin the first race with 26pts, 2nd would be 23pts third 21pts...
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stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
USA wrote:
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for...
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for the playoffs and can race in the LCQ for the final 2 gate picks.

Automatically seeded ≠ Qualified

Top 20 in overall combined points are automatically seeded. 21-30, or Race Winners not in the top 30 are qualified to come race their way in.

https://youtu.be/NgX6bAhkdF4
stremme12 wrote:
I think all we have is a context issue here. If you win a SX or MX overall you will be at the 3 SMX races.
Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders have the possibility of changing at each round?

Imagine if someone like Roczen had to qualify through the LCQ, and then won the first SMX main, then had to go to the LCQ in the second round as the points leader.
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Graybeard 10/5/2022 12:14pm
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USA wrote:
That's not what they said in the press conference.

stremme12 wrote:
It's exactly what they said. The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into...

It's exactly what they said.


The Super Motocross World Championship will combine points from the Supercross and Pro Motocross championships and qualify the top riders into the playoff rounds. Riders who win a Supercross main event or an Outdoor overall will automatically be qualified into the Super Motocross World Championship. The three-round playoffs will offer single race points at the first round, double points at round two, and triple points at round three. The rider with the most points at the end will collect the purse money, $1 Million for the 450’s and $500,000 for the 250’s. While the first and second rounds have yet to be announced, the finale will take place in Los Angeles, California at the LA Coliseum. Another big announcement is the TV package which will see all 31 races streamed via Peacock.
USA wrote:
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for...
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for the playoffs and can race in the LCQ for the final 2 gate picks.

Automatically seeded ≠ Qualified

Top 20 in overall combined points are automatically seeded. 21-30, or Race Winners not in the top 30 are qualified to come race their way in.

https://youtu.be/NgX6bAhkdF4
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Because you are seeded into the playoffs by your points total for SX and MX and if you are the points leader at that time you...
Because you are seeded into the playoffs by your points total for SX and MX and if you are the points leader at that time you will begin the first race with 26pts, 2nd would be 23pts third 21pts...
I thought this would be the case, but I didn't see any announcement of the riders starting with points. Where can I find this info?
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Because you are seeded into the playoffs by your points total for SX and MX and if you are the points leader at that time you...
Because you are seeded into the playoffs by your points total for SX and MX and if you are the points leader at that time you will begin the first race with 26pts, 2nd would be 23pts third 21pts...
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I thought this would be the case, but I didn't see any announcement of the riders starting with points. Where can I find this info?
It's in the video interview ML did with Prater
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USA wrote:
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for...
I get that what they said is confusing, but in the actual press conference at 19:30 they said that SX and MX winners are qualified for the playoffs and can race in the LCQ for the final 2 gate picks.

Automatically seeded ≠ Qualified

Top 20 in overall combined points are automatically seeded. 21-30, or Race Winners not in the top 30 are qualified to come race their way in.

https://youtu.be/NgX6bAhkdF4
stremme12 wrote:
I think all we have is a context issue here. If you win a SX or MX overall you will be at the 3 SMX races.
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Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders...
Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders have the possibility of changing at each round?

Imagine if someone like Roczen had to qualify through the LCQ, and then won the first SMX main, then had to go to the LCQ in the second round as the points leader.
my understanding is that they have to race the LCQ at each round to move onto the 2 motos. So theoretically yes, someone could win the first round, then not qualify for the second round.

Another fun scenario is Jett. If he is automatically seeded for 250 and 450, which class will he choose? I doubt he would have enough points to be a part of the 1-20 and would most likely have to go the LCQ route for 250s. He has a much better chance of making the 1-20 in 450s.
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stremme12 wrote:
I think all we have is a context issue here. If you win a SX or MX overall you will be at the 3 SMX races.
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Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders...
Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders have the possibility of changing at each round?

Imagine if someone like Roczen had to qualify through the LCQ, and then won the first SMX main, then had to go to the LCQ in the second round as the points leader.
zookrider62! wrote:
my understanding is that they have to race the LCQ at each round to move onto the 2 motos. So theoretically yes, someone could win the...
my understanding is that they have to race the LCQ at each round to move onto the 2 motos. So theoretically yes, someone could win the first round, then not qualify for the second round.

Another fun scenario is Jett. If he is automatically seeded for 250 and 450, which class will he choose? I doubt he would have enough points to be a part of the 1-20 and would most likely have to go the LCQ route for 250s. He has a much better chance of making the 1-20 in 450s.
Can he race both classes?
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USA wrote:
Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders...
Yeah, I think so as well. One question I still have is this, do they do an LCQ at every race? Could the additional 2 riders have the possibility of changing at each round?

Imagine if someone like Roczen had to qualify through the LCQ, and then won the first SMX main, then had to go to the LCQ in the second round as the points leader.
zookrider62! wrote:
my understanding is that they have to race the LCQ at each round to move onto the 2 motos. So theoretically yes, someone could win the...
my understanding is that they have to race the LCQ at each round to move onto the 2 motos. So theoretically yes, someone could win the first round, then not qualify for the second round.

Another fun scenario is Jett. If he is automatically seeded for 250 and 450, which class will he choose? I doubt he would have enough points to be a part of the 1-20 and would most likely have to go the LCQ route for 250s. He has a much better chance of making the 1-20 in 450s.
lumpy790 wrote:
Can he race both classes?
No.
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Spudinki45 wrote:
Sad to see no PetCo Park, the new stadium only holds 35k and is a college stadium so the track is gonna be tighter and more...
Sad to see no PetCo Park, the new stadium only holds 35k and is a college stadium so the track is gonna be tighter and more basic than even Salt Lake and Denver were last year. Is it just me or are these tracks getting way to simple compared to how they used to be in the RV days. Ngl, I'm gonna be waiting for SX to wrap up once again for Outdoors to start seeing some real racing.
mx295 wrote:
Snap Dragon Stadium [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/10/05/572021/s1200_434C2350_C840_4319_82A8_092DB969777F.jpg[/img]
Snap Dragon Stadium

Petco Park/Downtown made that race special. Nashville kinda has the downtown element but still not the same.

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