MXGP/AMA Combo Race Plans

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David Luongo and I are working on something really, really cool, it won’t happen in 2023 because there are things to work out like how it would work, but I can tell you we are both extremely excited , it’s something everyone has always wanted, everyone motocross fan as wanted. You don’t want to mess with the MXoN this event works, it’s a celebration.

If we can work out a way not mess with this race but have something totally different that we can fit it into MXGP and AMA Pro Motocross, that would not be taking away from either, it would be a second celebration every year.

Eric Geboers and I watched the Anaheim supercross, none of us could get into the Knothole club so we ended up in the stands buying beers, and Eric, who I loved, and Eric is like, ‘it is my dream to have a race to bring Pro Motocross and MXGP together at Namur and one half of the track will be all AMA MX sponsors and the other half of the track will be all MXGP sponsors and we bring the top 20 riders in either class and I’m like, ‘ I think that’s a great idea but it’s crazy!’ At that time the relationship with what was Youthstream and MX Sports was very different.

After Guiseppe reached out in 2016 after Maggiora, we have started working together and now David and I have become really good friends and we see a lot alike as fans. The systems are different and it is what it is and we are the way we are. When Eric Geboers died, I remember writing a memorial for him that that was his dream to have this race and, if we ever did have this race, the winner gets the Eric Geboers cup and if this works out, that’s what’s going to happen.

And we all as fans have had that thought, but I have never heard it articulated so well optimistically and so emotionally as Eric that night. He was like, ‘ you must make this happen, you must make this happen.’ Again, i thought yeah, when hell freezes over, but things changed for the better so we are re-visiting that. It is just on the drawing board, there is a lot to worlk through but how bitching would that be?
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I'M SUPERPUMPED!
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9/29/2022 2:29pm
If this goes half as well as the outdoor streaming went this year, then… we’ll it’s gonna go poorly
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9/29/2022 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2022 2:33pm
Would be cool if they could figure out a way to do an annual combined points race in each the US and Europe.
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9/29/2022 3:04pm
Have an mxgp at glenn helen and let any America enter. Is it not what used to happen?
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9/29/2022 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2022 3:10pm
Have an mxgp at glenn helen and let any America enter. Is it not what used to happen?
They did that already.

only 11 fans and a stray coyote showed up on race day.



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9/29/2022 3:18pm
Have an mxgp at glenn helen and let any America enter. Is it not what used to happen?
Brent wrote:
They did that already.

only 11 fans and a stray coyote showed up on race day.



Laughing Laughing Laughing
And I bet the Coyote snuck in without paying Wink
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9/29/2022 3:26pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2022 3:28pm
If DC is involved it’ll probably be 3 races at Pala
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9/29/2022 4:18pm
one american round, one euro round. points paying race. that would be sick.
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9/29/2022 4:28pm
The only thing better than the MXoN would be the top 20 USA riders and the top 20 MXGP riders in each class on the gate at the same time! Please make this happen!
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9/29/2022 4:38pm
Brent wrote:
They did that already.

only 11 fans and a stray coyote showed up on race day.



I was one of the 11, along with Preston Campbell. We had a great time and I saw Cairoli in his prime- which was impressive!
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9/29/2022 4:54pm
There are so many races these days that I know it will never happen but I would love to see a series like the old Trans-AM series. Be cool to see all the MXGP and AMA riders in a series of outdoor races.
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9/29/2022 5:45pm
From a non-US perspective I think all it needs to be is one of the AMA National rounds becomes a combined points paying round for both series. The AMA Nationals are exactly that, nationals. The MXGP is already an international series and has the logistics sorted for it.

The US tracks are different and will provide some variety for the MXGP, then the MXDN will be in Europe most years anyway which will provide variety for the best US riders.

The only condition is that it would need to be around mid-season on the AMA calendar to give the teams a chance to nail bike setup, but not too late in either calendar so that intensity has dropped.

That's the easiest, most logical, lowest cost way to do it, and the fans will love it.
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9/29/2022 5:53pm
Probably take High Point or something and pay MXGP and AMA points
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9/29/2022 5:57pm
Have an mxgp at glenn helen and let any America enter. Is it not what used to happen?
Brent wrote:
They did that already.

only 11 fans and a stray coyote showed up on race day.



So why do we think fans will show up at another race?
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9/29/2022 6:00pm
DC and Luongo working together? Color me shocked. This cannot be good for fans or riders
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9/29/2022 6:04pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2022 6:43pm
Gimmick wrote:
DC and Luongo working together? Color me shocked. This cannot be good for fans or riders
Nope. If there is a way to fuck something up. Those 2 will be sure to figure it out.
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9/29/2022 6:14pm
Sounds like it will be a Ryder Cup type format .
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9/29/2022 6:21pm
Have an mxgp at glenn helen and let any America enter. Is it not what used to happen?
Brent wrote:
They did that already.

only 11 fans and a stray coyote showed up on race day.



So why do we think fans will show up at another race?
They could try advertising it. That might change things.
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9/29/2022 6:26pm
From a non-US perspective I think all it needs to be is one of the AMA National rounds becomes a combined points paying round for both...
From a non-US perspective I think all it needs to be is one of the AMA National rounds becomes a combined points paying round for both series. The AMA Nationals are exactly that, nationals. The MXGP is already an international series and has the logistics sorted for it.

The US tracks are different and will provide some variety for the MXGP, then the MXDN will be in Europe most years anyway which will provide variety for the best US riders.

The only condition is that it would need to be around mid-season on the AMA calendar to give the teams a chance to nail bike setup, but not too late in either calendar so that intensity has dropped.

That's the easiest, most logical, lowest cost way to do it, and the fans will love it.
Agree completely . I can’t see it working any other way .
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9/29/2022 6:49pm
Adam43 wrote:
Probably take High Point or something and pay MXGP and AMA points
I would use Washougal if the pits is big enough. The AMA riders have their normal qualifications on Saturday but no races, same with the MXGP riders. The best 17 riders from each are going to the "Main Races on Sunday". Than you have a LCQ also on Saturday and no matter if you are AMA or MXGP the first 6 are in. On Sunday you've 4 heats with the fastest 40 riders, and because AMA and MXGP are using the same point system, we can use the points for both championships. Example: Jett Lawrence wins both races he scores 50 points for his AMA Championship chase, and he scores 50 points in the MXGP.

Only problem is the age limit in MX2. Are you going to do this system only at the MXGP/450 class and keep the MX2 and 250 on his own as sideshow races?

MX2
AMA 250
MXGP/AMA 450
AMA250
MX2
MXGP/AMA 450

Something like that, Oh please Mister Coombs, Davey answer my questions! Namur off course isn't really an option because the FIM thinks it's to dangerous, the only option to run a race there is like Isle of Man TT or North West 200 Road Race. Find heaps of money and a compromise with the city and the neighbors living almost on the track and make it happen!
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9/29/2022 6:52pm
Have an mxgp at glenn helen and let any America enter. Is it not what used to happen?
Brent wrote:
They did that already.

only 11 fans and a stray coyote showed up on race day.



I was there and there was no coyote, but there was a roadrunner with a #3
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9/29/2022 7:19pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Sounds like it will be a Ryder Cup type format .
Something like Tomac, ferrandis, Jett, Chase vs Jeffery, Gajser, Fabvre, Seewer?

I'd think Ferrandis would do pretty well in an event like that. Course any of them would do pretty well, that's quite a list of riders.



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9/29/2022 7:24pm
I hope they play off of the whole MXGP vs AMA thing and have another trophy that the winning promoter gets to keep each year. And call it the Motocross Galactic Supercluster Championship.
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Johnny Ringo
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9/29/2022 7:49pm
Will Mav or Flo get the TV deal?
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yak651
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DC chummy with Luongo, that explains some things
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9/29/2022 8:07pm
I agree it would be cool to see
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9/29/2022 9:13pm
Will Mav or Flo get the TV deal?
Both those options seem like more the WSX has.
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9/29/2022 9:44pm
I've been hoping this would happen for years now. I think there has to be only one set of points for the whole field, otherwise once a rider settles into "first MXGP," or "first AMA" they could just conserve and not race forward.
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