Jett Lawrence is the FMOTP

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Chris_Buehler 9/26/2022 1:24pm
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kong0036 wrote:
You throw a fit Herlings and Febvre and Gasjer in that race and think there might have been a different result
Mick 22 wrote:
Obviously, #84 and #243 are presently the two fastest men on the planet. Febvre is possibly #3, along with Renaux, Seewar, Vialle, Geerts, Eli, Jett, Ferrandis...
Obviously, #84 and #243 are presently the two fastest men on the planet.

Febvre is possibly #3, along with Renaux, Seewar, Vialle, Geerts, Eli, Jett, Ferrandis, and edit, don't forget Chase.

I have argued for the past year that as good as Febvre is, that he would finish behind three or four other Frenchmen as often as he would be in front of them --- Renaux, Ferrandis, Vialle and possibly Marvin are that fast.

I would LOVE to see the FIM and AMA get their shit together and do a few rounds in the US and/or the western hemisphere where EVERYONE races and points are paid as normal, so that if the Bullet goes 1-1 and Dylan goes 2-6, Herlings gets "50" and #14 gets "37".

Mixed series will quickly define who is the king of MX, and it might get to be #18 or #14.
mxb2 wrote:
I ll take rc as the fmotp. Since. You mentioned a guy that didnt even race this year.
Took the words out of my mouth. The guy who never even raced last year is the FMOTP? Just give it back to the original owner of it, Stewart, if we're just basing it on the past. Calling someone the FMOTP after this race has turned into a running joke anyway
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Rotaholic 9/26/2022 2:02pm
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Sucks Jett had to ditch his goggles in that last moto, a few more tear offs and he would have gone 1/1
Still an amazing debut on the world stage.
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pilotdude 9/26/2022 2:08pm
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A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of 2 whole series. The MXDN involves team strategy and values consistency. IN NO WAY did I see the "on the edge" speed from either Tomac and Sexton displayed over the course of 24 motos in the Nationals.

The battle next summer between Sexton/Ferandis/Jett will probably be truly epic, IMO.
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Kelz87 9/26/2022 2:30pm
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Can’t judge by a mud race, but he was impressive.
Ferrandis was faster, just had bad luck
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TBOLTUSA 9/26/2022 2:55pm
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Its so cool to see so many fast guys on the track at once from all over the country
bring back the USGP and make it count for points in both AMA and the FIM series
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motokiwi wrote:
Welcome to the Jett Lawrence era..
swap fanboy
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/26/570664/s1200_Yoda_delusions_of_grandeur.jpg[/img]

*Strong with Grandeur
Delusions of this one are
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Kelz87 wrote:
Can’t judge by a mud race, but he was impressive.
Ferrandis was faster, just had bad luck
Ferrandis was faster coz he was pushing faster which caused him to make errors.
Ferrandis looks like he was about to crash the whole time. Jett looked in control most of time.
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motokiwi 9/26/2022 5:21pm
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swap fanboy
Its funny how "DonM" stopped posting since I changed my signature
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Underground Bob 9/27/2022 4:56am
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pilotdude wrote:
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of...
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of 2 whole series. The MXDN involves team strategy and values consistency. IN NO WAY did I see the "on the edge" speed from either Tomac and Sexton displayed over the course of 24 motos in the Nationals.

The battle next summer between Sexton/Ferandis/Jett will probably be truly epic, IMO.
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the day - FMOTP. - Beat them all!

Get used to it
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Kelz87 9/27/2022 5:36am
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pilotdude wrote:
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of...
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of 2 whole series. The MXDN involves team strategy and values consistency. IN NO WAY did I see the "on the edge" speed from either Tomac and Sexton displayed over the course of 24 motos in the Nationals.

The battle next summer between Sexton/Ferandis/Jett will probably be truly epic, IMO.
Underground Bob wrote:
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the...
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the day - FMOTP. - Beat them all!

Get used to it
Jett once again stealing the spotlight from Hunter Grinning
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Underground Bob 9/27/2022 5:39am
9/27/2022 5:39am
pilotdude wrote:
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of...
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of 2 whole series. The MXDN involves team strategy and values consistency. IN NO WAY did I see the "on the edge" speed from either Tomac and Sexton displayed over the course of 24 motos in the Nationals.

The battle next summer between Sexton/Ferandis/Jett will probably be truly epic, IMO.
Underground Bob wrote:
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the...
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the day - FMOTP. - Beat them all!

Get used to it
Kelz87 wrote:
Jett once again stealing the spotlight from Hunter Grinning
Hunter's winnings used to feed Jet and the rest of the family. Now Jet's winnings buy's Hunter a sportscar and houses the family in a mansion. I'd be OK with that.
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Dirty Points 9/27/2022 5:49am
9/27/2022 5:49am Edited Date/Time 9/27/2022 5:59am
pilotdude wrote:
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of...
A single event like this gives only a snapshot of speed. Jett will get his chance agains Sexton and Ferandis next year over the course of 2 whole series. The MXDN involves team strategy and values consistency. IN NO WAY did I see the "on the edge" speed from either Tomac and Sexton displayed over the course of 24 motos in the Nationals.

The battle next summer between Sexton/Ferandis/Jett will probably be truly epic, IMO.
Underground Bob wrote:
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the...
The only world race where the world's best show up to compete for the title and the scared stay home with an excuse. Best on the day - FMOTP. - Beat them all!

Get used to it
"Beat them all?"


How have we completely forgotten what happened in an event two days ago?

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UpTiTe 9/27/2022 6:10am
9/27/2022 6:10am
Richard Tease II wrote:
Why is he a kook?
JMR1976 wrote:
Taking out Shimoda and trying to park Cooper on lap 2. Both occasions he lost out so maybe he will learn, obviously he learns slower then...
Taking out Shimoda and trying to park Cooper on lap 2. Both occasions he lost out so maybe he will learn, obviously he learns slower then his younger brother.
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Think Cooper would even agree Hunter wasn't trying to park him.
Cooper said he absolutely tried to take him out.
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brocster 9/27/2022 7:03am
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The acronym’s FMOTP and GOAT need to be deleted
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Gungadin 9/27/2022 7:35am
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UpTiTe wrote:
Cooper said he absolutely tried to take him out.
He would say that, wouldn't he?
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MotoMan12345 wrote:
Can we stop using MXDN as the bar for being the FMOTP…MXDN isn’t about winning all the motos!! How did Glen do after his dominating performance...
Can we stop using MXDN as the bar for being the FMOTP…MXDN isn’t about winning all the motos!! How did Glen do after his dominating performance in 2018?? He didn’t do shit!! Dylan was by far the most impressive rider of the week but look how his races turned out. Wish some people had some common sense
Glen has won Multiple GP’s since 2018 Red Bud and signed a huge money deal with Yamaha when he went over. I would say that’s something. The post Red Bud Glen has had far more success than pre Red Bud Glen.
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Park Boys 9/27/2022 7:46am
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brocster wrote:
The acronym’s FMOTP and GOAT need to be deleted
The GOAT stays, It’s RC. If you disagree, log off and delete your account. No room for people who argue over who the Goat is.
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So let me get this straight, the FMOTP didn’t win the race, or have the fastest lap time??
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JK BRO 9/27/2022 8:20am
9/27/2022 8:20am Edited Date/Time 9/27/2022 8:20am
I really liked the comment that had "FMOTP/GOAT" in it.
motokiwi 9/27/2022 8:29am
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Park Boys wrote:
The GOAT stays, It’s RC. If you disagree, log off and delete your account. No room for people who argue over who the Goat is.
G.O.A.T was engineered by RC's agent and exposed to the world thru an interview with RC's buddy "the talker" - Matt Walker.

At least FMOTP appeared organically
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Gungadin 9/27/2022 1:59pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
"Beat them all?" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/27/570717/s1200_Screenshot_20220927_054819.jpg[/img] How have we completely forgotten what happened in an event two days ago?
"Beat them all?"


How have we completely forgotten what happened in an event two days ago?

That is a poorly made argument predicated by dislike rather than objectivity.

For a start Lawrence went 1-2 and won MX Open so he did beat him by the standards
of the event.

Jett was lapping up to 2 seconds faster than Maxime and caught him at will but with no goggles for the last part of the race and with plenty of risk for little gain he weighed his options sat back. Renaux now knows who Jett is.



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Dirty Points 9/27/2022 2:42pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
"Beat them all?" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/27/570717/s1200_Screenshot_20220927_054819.jpg[/img] How have we completely forgotten what happened in an event two days ago?
"Beat them all?"


How have we completely forgotten what happened in an event two days ago?

Gungadin wrote:
That is a poorly made argument predicated by dislike rather than objectivity. For a start Lawrence went 1-2 and won MX Open so he did beat...
That is a poorly made argument predicated by dislike rather than objectivity.

For a start Lawrence went 1-2 and won MX Open so he did beat him by the standards
of the event.

Jett was lapping up to 2 seconds faster than Maxime and caught him at will but with no goggles for the last part of the race and with plenty of risk for little gain he weighed his options sat back. Renaux now knows who Jett is.



First off, I don't dislike Jett at all. I like him quite a bit.

Secondly, "By the standards of the event..."
Renaux:
✅ Won the premier class
✅ Finished ahead on the team podium.
✅ Beat Jett in their head-to-head.

Those are the standards of the event. Rationalizations about goggles, times, and risk management are not "by the standard of the event". Those are all random standards you have made up and situationally applied.
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lostboy819 9/27/2022 2:53pm
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Underground Bob wrote:
Hunter's winnings used to feed Jet and the rest of the family. Now Jet's winnings buy's Hunter a sportscar and houses the family in a mansion...
Hunter's winnings used to feed Jet and the rest of the family. Now Jet's winnings buy's Hunter a sportscar and houses the family in a mansion. I'd be OK with that.
So the Lawrence's use their kids to pay the family bills and feed the family Blush I really hope not.
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motokiwi 9/28/2022 2:05am
9/28/2022 2:05am Edited Date/Time 9/28/2022 2:08am
lostboy819 wrote:
So the Lawrence's use their kids to pay the family bills and feed the family Blush I really hope not.
Pull your head in mate.

1. Thats none of our business - all we care about is Jett winning or not winning

2. He is part of a dynamic family unit that has given it all to make the boys what they are - of course there is going to be some organic wholesome payback vs a josh grant scenario where nothing was properly sorted from the get go

3. Who freaking cares- Jett Lawrence is the the FMOTP - the world is their oyster if they play their cards right
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Jett is for sure going to be a winner in the 450 class. And Holy smokes, Geerts and Reneaux look keen to take the reins in...
Jett is for sure going to be a winner in the 450 class. And Holy smokes, Geerts and Reneaux look keen to take the reins in mxgp in the next few years.
Geerts was very strong this weekend. But Geerts problem isnt his best days, his problem is his worst days. He'll find a way to mess up his championship and based on the past few years in MX2 i will not be shocked if he never wins a title (including MX2).
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mx313 9/28/2022 3:15am
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Underground Bob wrote:
Hunter's winnings used to feed Jet and the rest of the family. Now Jet's winnings buy's Hunter a sportscar and houses the family in a mansion...
Hunter's winnings used to feed Jet and the rest of the family. Now Jet's winnings buy's Hunter a sportscar and houses the family in a mansion. I'd be OK with that.
lostboy819 wrote:
So the Lawrence's use their kids to pay the family bills and feed the family Blush I really hope not.
The hunters sold there house and all their belonging to move overseas and almost go broke.
The hunter kids repaid their parents for those losses.
Then dazzy hunter is praccy mechanic, track maintenence crew, and team leader. Thats dazzy hunters job and he earns a pay check from the kids for that. And thats what pays the bills.
Dont make it sound like the parents sit at home with a hand out. They are out there earning their wage.
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Thisusernameisavailable 9/28/2022 4:06am
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Herlings is done, he never wins another championship. The new era is taking over in MXGP and he is too damaged. I'm not sure if Jett...
Herlings is done, he never wins another championship. The new era is taking over in MXGP and he is too damaged.


I'm not sure if Jett is the FMOTP yet but he was the fastest man at Red Bud today. If he races a regional SX series next year Honda is foolish.
I agree.
The sport doesn’t need Jett on a 250 any longer.

He has nothing to prove in 250s now. Go learn the 450. What is holding him down on a 250 achieving, apart from an almost certain championship for Honda?
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Underground Bob 9/28/2022 4:33am
9/28/2022 4:33am
Who the fuck are the Hunters?
Anyway, it's been fun winding you fuckers up about Jett being the latest FMOTP, just like it was when Coldenhoff was FMOTP on several occasions and still you guys take the bait. Cheers and see you next year for Aussie take outs and domination. Again
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