Steve Matthes…….Claimgate Video…….PulpFictionMX

holyroller1 wrote:

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks...

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks and shit went wrong on my end.

I do apologize to caviar&cigarettes338

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

It’s ok man I’m sorry also I was just as bad

holyroller1 wrote:

Hey no excuse for my shit. I will say it's my weekend so I have an excuse to drink

brettmx wrote:

Hindsight being a lot clearer then in the moment. I'm wondering why the, dad especially, didn't start to think, "they're offering us a couple of engines...

Hindsight being a lot clearer then in the moment. I'm wondering why the, dad especially, didn't start to think, "they're offering us a couple of engines and an invitation to the Goat Farm, maybe this bike is worth a lot more than I thought it was". I would have countered with, "how about 2 new bikes and a week at the Goat Farm". Then see what the Yamaha rep had to say. If they went for that I would have said, "nope, it's pretty apparent this bike is more than you're letting on."

holyroller1 wrote:

Don't make things more simple than they have to be there bud. :evil: There are so many obvious solutions to this. Your idea *would work. Also...

Don't make things more simple than they have to be there bud.

There are so many obvious solutions to this. Your idea *would work. Also, money changes hands, deal done, nothing more can be done. No take backs, makes everyone think about the situation before anyone does anything. For good or bad.

Too bad AMA can't come up with valid rules.

EDIT: I also think there needs to be a clause about adult vs kids/children being able to claim.

The fact that SlowOldGuy let this meeting happen with a minor and no adult supervision is perplexing to me. He stated he was in the meeting and knew his dad wasn't available. Shame.

SlowOldGuy wrote:

You’re going to feel really stupid for saying this when you see the rule for 2023. We had our Motocross commission meeting tonight and both of...

You’re going to feel really stupid for saying this when you see the rule for 2023. We had our Motocross commission meeting tonight and both of those items are going to be in the rule for 2023. Anonymity, and the transaction is final when the money changes hands with the contract signed. Also it will be added that you have to be 18 or have a parent with you or legal guardian to do a claim. So I have a little faith in me, I’m not the bad guy. Remember this has only happened four other times in history and not for the last 18 years And never with a Moto left a ride so we are going through a little bit of a learning process

holyroller1 wrote:

Why would I feel stupid? In fact, I am happy that is the case. You are finally making progress after a situation that forced you to...

Why would I feel stupid? In fact, I am happy that is the case.

You are finally making progress after a situation that forced you to do so. Also, anti blackball rules should be put into place. You smart guys figure out how to do that. EDIT - I know this is impossible, just saying. The claim rule should be accessible to all qualified with no ramifications as it is a RULE!!

DonM wrote:

Typical mob mentality....resort to name calling when someone has a differing opinion...we're not talking life or death here many of you need to slow the emotional...

Typical mob mentality....resort to name calling when someone has a differing opinion...we're not talking life or death here many of you need to slow the emotional rollercoaster you're on....he has a different opinion than you and that's ok.

holyroller1 wrote:

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks...

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks and shit went wrong on my end.

I do apologize to caviar&cigarettes338

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

It’s ok man I’m sorry also I was just as bad

FreshTopEnd wrote:

So, we're all drinking now, right. Phew.

MXMattii wrote:

The AMA has off course nothing to gain by lying. Because it looked so good that they left a minor alone in a room together with...

The AMA has off course nothing to gain by lying. Because it looked so good that they left a minor alone in a room together with a crazy billionaire mini-dad and a guy who acted like he was AMA but was MX-Sport. No the AMA has nothing to gain by saying: "We where there the whole time, we didn't left Brennan hanging between the sharks! We are the AMA we are there for everyone!"

About the Yamaha dealer also, he off course has nothing to gain by lying. Oh maybe he has, what color of bikes is he selling? What brand makes his dealership successful? Choosing between a 17 year old who never gonna make it, who only costs you money due to the sponsorship or showing the Blue Yamaha family some loyalty by dumping Brennan and telling Micheal Lindsay (not in a zoom but in a short text) I'm not pressured. Was he scared that his face would show his anger about what happen and the betray what has happened, that he choose for a text?!

8tensolutions wrote:

I think the dealer (Chris) has nothing to gain so a statement that was simple and to the point leaves no room for error. If he...

I think the dealer (Chris) has nothing to gain so a statement that was simple and to the point leaves no room for error. If he did a full interview, it would have nothing but downside for his business. He has all the skin in the game where a 17 year old kid has snapchat to worry about.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

He was helping Brennan with bikes he didn’t have to and you have to remember he’s a Yamaha dealer that’s his livelihood and his employee’s livelihood...

He was helping Brennan with bikes he didn’t have to and you have to remember he’s a Yamaha dealer that’s his livelihood and his employee’s livelihood is selling Yamaha product so when a rider that you help that is riding free Yamaha bikes you gave him goes out at the largest amateur national event and try’s to claim a factory am support race bike from the same manufacture you make your livelihood with it puts a lot negative non wanted attention on your dealership with that oem and that’s why I’m sure he took the bikes back l. Dealer was probably blindsided and Brennan maybe should of talked to him first snd let him know what he was planning on doing

holyroller1 wrote:

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks...

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks and shit went wrong on my end.

I do apologize to caviar&cigarettes338

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

It’s ok man I’m sorry also I was just as bad

DonM wrote:

Kumbayfuckingya!! I'm starting have faith in humanity again...one by one

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

It’s ok man I’m sorry also I was just as bad

DonM wrote:

Kumbayfuckingya!! I'm starting have faith in humanity again...one by one

holyroller1 wrote:

Fuck you DonM

It's the drink I swear. I can't help it

FreshTopEnd wrote:

So, we're all drinking now, right. Phew.

DonM wrote:

Kumbayfuckingya!! I'm starting have faith in humanity again...one by one

holyroller1 wrote:

Fuck you DonM

It's the drink I swear. I can't help it

DonM wrote:

Magoofan wrote:

This could have been posted in one of the other two Pulp threads.

Too many threads on this drama. We need a merge.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

It’s not fake and has not been proven to be fake it’s just your opinion that it’s fake and your opinion mean nothing in this just...

It’s not fake and has not been proven to be fake it’s just your opinion that it’s fake and your opinion mean nothing in this just like you think my opinion means nothing in this. Here let me post them again so I can upset you again and you mob with pitch forks . If you had your way everyone would be out of a Job from Tim Cotter , Everyone at AMA, Mx Sports would be drop from promoting am and pro events, the deegans would be banned from all racing . But guess what your opinion doesn’t matter and none of this going happen

holyroller1 wrote:

So you are saying you have the source of the social media post and they affirm it is real? Or are you just grasping. FYI, it's...

So you are saying you have the source of the social media post and they affirm it is real? Or are you just grasping.

FYI, it's not my opinion. It has been discredited by the person that "supposedly" posted it. If someone can bring forth a more reliable witness to say it's not fake then I will change my opinion.

You are presuming guilt with no evidence.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

Presuming guilt with no evidence hey ? Isn’t that what you and the cooksey mob with pitch forks been doing all week and now that Cooksey/...

Presuming guilt with no evidence hey ? Isn’t that what you and the cooksey mob with pitch forks been doing all week and now that Cooksey/ Brennan ship is sinking your mob is trying come up with theories that Dealer Chris is not allowed to make his own decisions and must lied when he said wasn’t pressured by anyone from yamaha

holyroller1 wrote:

So you are saying you have the source of the social media post and they affirm it is real? Or are you just grasping. FYI, it's...

So you are saying you have the source of the social media post and they affirm it is real? Or are you just grasping.

FYI, it's not my opinion. It has been discredited by the person that "supposedly" posted it. If someone can bring forth a more reliable witness to say it's not fake then I will change my opinion.

You are presuming guilt with no evidence.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

Presuming guilt with no evidence hey ? Isn’t that what you and the cooksey mob with pitch forks been doing all week and now that Cooksey/...

Presuming guilt with no evidence hey ? Isn’t that what you and the cooksey mob with pitch forks been doing all week and now that Cooksey/ Brennan ship is sinking your mob is trying come up with theories that Dealer Chris is not allowed to make his own decisions and must lied when he said wasn’t pressured by anyone from yamaha

kiwifan wrote:

thats pot kettle black, you are the one saying Brennan is guilty/lying with no evidence

MXMattii wrote:

I really wanted to believe you till you said: "Maybe I had some empathy". C'mon the guy who creates witch hunts against riders, teams, dads who...

I really wanted to believe you till you said: "Maybe I had some empathy". C'mon the guy who creates witch hunts against riders, teams, dads who don't speak enough or being friendly enough with him, has empathy. A few former riders who where, very wrongfully being portrait by you are now laughing so damn hard.

Matthes wrote:

You're an idiot though, you attacked me on here for no reason so TBH, I don't really care what you say.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

Everyone is being attacked on here and no one is allowed to differ from the mobs opinion. They take everything you say and then try to...

Everyone is being attacked on here and no one is allowed to differ from the mobs opinion. They take everything you say and then try to twist it up to fit what they want to hear.

SX_336 wrote:

The dad DID NOT file the claim. The kid filed it. Therefore, the dad doesn’t get to decide if the deal is good enough. NOT to...

The dad DID NOT file the claim. The kid filed it. Therefore, the dad doesn’t get to decide if the deal is good enough. NOT to mention, the motors were never a set in stone deal. If that were the case, why would Donnie mention in the ML512 interview that the dad reached out again to ask about the motors, but he said it would be a few days before he could get back to the dad. I’m starting to believe you haven’t even watched the videos. I still want to know why Donnie said on PulpMX he was almost to the hotel when he was called and informed about the claim, but told ML512 he was at the track when he found out. And again, it doesn’t matter what Star wanted. The kid filed and paid the claim. DONE DEAL!

DonM wrote:

The dad does't get decide if the deal is good enough??? You can't be serious lol!

SX_336 wrote:

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating...

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating. The dad can’t say “ok, it’s a deal” and then go drop the claim. He didn’t file it.

DonM wrote:

And at the end of the day that is exactly what will happen....as Bobby Regan put...we will re-assess their amateur program...you can guarantee that they will...

And at the end of the day that is exactly what will happen....as Bobby Regan put...we will re-assess their amateur program...you can guarantee that they will not show up at an amateur event with a semi-works motor again....

Matthes wrote:

You're an idiot though, you attacked me on here for no reason so TBH, I don't really care what you say.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

Everyone is being attacked on here and no one is allowed to differ from the mobs opinion. They take everything you say and then try to...

Everyone is being attacked on here and no one is allowed to differ from the mobs opinion. They take everything you say and then try to twist it up to fit what they want to hear.

tingo wrote:

Super ironic considering that you shared (in every thread you could find) the doctored social media posts that Brennan supposedly made about Haiden. Talk about twisting...

Super ironic considering that you shared (in every thread you could find) the doctored social media posts that Brennan supposedly made about Haiden. Talk about twisting things up.

Magoofan wrote:

This could have been posted in one of the other two Pulp threads.

Too many threads on this drama. We need a merge.

cjg23307 wrote:

You could of easily not clicked on it or commented either.

526 wrote:

I love how Keefer says this will never happen again the AMA will fix it it LOLOLOL What has the AMA fixed? I saw Nico Izzi's...

I love how Keefer says this will never happen again the AMA will fix it it LOLOLOL What has the AMA fixed? I saw Nico Izzi's name on timing and scoring at a pro national last year LOLOL The AMA ain't fixing Shit.

SX_336 wrote:

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating...

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating. The dad can’t say “ok, it’s a deal” and then go drop the claim. He didn’t file it.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

Ahh, no. Dad is king until junior is emancipated.

holyroller1 wrote:

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks...

DonM, You are partially correct. This isn't about mob mentality for me. It's me being a dumb ass. I posted this evening after having some drinks and shit went wrong on my end.

I do apologize to caviar&cigarettes338

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

It’s ok man I’m sorry also I was just as bad

holyroller1 wrote:

Hey no excuse for my shit. I will say it's my weekend so I have an excuse to drink

SX_336 wrote:

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating...

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating. The dad can’t say “ok, it’s a deal” and then go drop the claim. He didn’t file it.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

Ahh, no. Dad is king until junior is emancipated.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Really?
That doesn't seem to be in the rules for 2022.

SX_336 wrote:

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating...

I’m saying the dad didn’t file the claim. The dad didn’t put up the money for the claim. Therefore, he isn’t the one doing the negotiating. The dad can’t say “ok, it’s a deal” and then go drop the claim. He didn’t file it.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

Ahh, no. Dad is king until junior is emancipated.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Really?
That doesn't seem to be in the rules for 2022.