Vital Update on Deegan Bike Claim Story (interviews)

JDirt wrote:

I don't know why either Deegan would give a flying ass if the bike got claimed. They're on the way to the big show and didn't...

I don't know why either Deegan would give a flying ass if the bike got claimed. They're on the way to the big show and didn't invest a dime in the bike anyway. Star on the other hand was going to lose $ but there's more where that came from. Secret technology? REM gears? IP? They really think highly of themselves like nobody else has figured this stuff out. Let the kid have the bike, but no they had to be bigshots and cowboy the situation. I never thought I'd miss the FIM but jeez what a joke.

Sideways91 wrote:

Joined Vital just for this. So. Since Haiden is responsible for anyone in his camp/team, and they circumvented the claim, per the rules, Haiden could be...

Joined Vital just for this.

So. Since Haiden is responsible for anyone in his camp/team, and they circumvented the claim, per the rules, Haiden could be looking at a year vacation from competing in AMA events. Could you imagine if they actually enforced the rules? lol

JDirt wrote:

"Donnie says: "Why are you doing this? There's parts inside that motor you can't buy."

Question asked and answered.

DA498 wrote:

I guess that doesnt fall into the line of discouraging the claim either.

Sideways91 wrote:

Joined Vital just for this. So. Since Haiden is responsible for anyone in his camp/team, and they circumvented the claim, per the rules, Haiden could be...

Joined Vital just for this.

So. Since Haiden is responsible for anyone in his camp/team, and they circumvented the claim, per the rules, Haiden could be looking at a year vacation from competing in AMA events. Could you imagine if they actually enforced the rules? lol

ohhellnah wrote:

I don’t know much about Haiden Deegan, but I feel just a little bit for him in this circus. He’s probably more just trying to race...

I don’t know much about Haiden Deegan, but I feel just a little bit for him in this circus. He’s probably more just trying to race the races

Dirt.Squirt wrote:

Guy claimed (errr tried to) deegans bike Deegan and Cotter allegedly take him into a office and do the good cop bad cop routine on guy...

Guy claimed (errr tried to) deegans bike

Deegan and Cotter allegedly take him into a office and do the good cop bad cop routine on guy

Guy and engine builder gets called over to his trainers tent (Matt walker) to be harassed and screamed at by walker and Donnie Luce played role of quiet tough guy

His sponsor/dealer allegedly was threatened by someone that Yamaha would end their dealer agreement with them if guy went through with claim

Guy drops claim

Vital begins initial melt down phase

RacerX tried to blow it over as nothing in a racerhead article

Vital commences meltdown

Interview with guy comes out

Vital REALLY melts down, pitch fork and torch sales sky rocket (rightfully so)

some Sore Loser comes on here and calls guy lier without actually calling him a lier for 21 hours straight before sleeping

Vital continues to melt down

Engine builder for guy does a couple interviews

Vital melts down some more

Sideways91 wrote:

Joined Vital just for this. So. Since Haiden is responsible for anyone in his camp/team, and they circumvented the claim, per the rules, Haiden could be...

Joined Vital just for this.

So. Since Haiden is responsible for anyone in his camp/team, and they circumvented the claim, per the rules, Haiden could be looking at a year vacation from competing in AMA events. Could you imagine if they actually enforced the rules? lol

ohhellnah wrote:

I don’t know much about Haiden Deegan, but I feel just a little bit for him in this circus. He’s probably more just trying to race...

I don’t know much about Haiden Deegan, but I feel just a little bit for him in this circus. He’s probably more just trying to race the races

Cayden Thompson wrote:

He did have some involvement when he went to Brennan's pits with his posse.

ohhellnah wrote:

I don’t know much about Haiden Deegan, but I feel just a little bit for him in this circus. He’s probably more just trying to race...

I don’t know much about Haiden Deegan, but I feel just a little bit for him in this circus. He’s probably more just trying to race the races

Cayden Thompson wrote:

He did have some involvement when he went to Brennan's pits with his posse.

Sideways91 wrote:

I was just stating the rules, and got downvoted for it. I had heard a rumor about Haiden going to his camp, but that's just that...

I was just stating the rules, and got downvoted for it. I had heard a rumor about Haiden going to his camp, but that's just that, a rumor.
We do know for a fact, that someone within his camp played a part in circumventing the claim, whether it be the Deegan's, Star Yamaha, Yamaha corporation, doesn't matter. Them changing out the motor with another teams motor is really fishy as well.

Cayden Thompson wrote:

He did have some involvement when he went to Brennan's pits with his posse.

Sideways91 wrote:

I was just stating the rules, and got downvoted for it. I had heard a rumor about Haiden going to his camp, but that's just that...

I was just stating the rules, and got downvoted for it. I had heard a rumor about Haiden going to his camp, but that's just that, a rumor.
We do know for a fact, that someone within his camp played a part in circumventing the claim, whether it be the Deegan's, Star Yamaha, Yamaha corporation, doesn't matter. Them changing out the motor with another teams motor is really fishy as well.

caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:

Yeah them swapping out the moto I heard that brought up I think I heard someone said that’s ok if you change it out but we’re...

Yeah them swapping out the moto I heard that brought up I think I heard someone said that’s ok if you change it out but we’re tagging that motor you take out and the kid going to get that motor and the motor you swapped it for

drmarkr wrote:

Posting in this thread as well.....I will fund the claiming of any Star Yamaha bike when the 2023 season commences....

startbuttonarmpump wrote:

Great job! we need more info.

Dirty Points wrote:

MXSports is under fire for actively creating/fostering an environment where a competitor could bully a kid in their offices over multiple days rather than leaving the...

MXSports is under fire for actively creating/fostering an environment where a competitor could bully a kid in their offices over multiple days rather than leaving the rule enforcement detail to the AMA guys.

Conkey wrote:

If Walker went after his own CLIENT, that is pretty spineless.

TbonesPop wrote:

How any rider or team would ever want to work with him again in the future is beyond me. There are way too many other good...

How any rider or team would ever want to work with him again in the future is beyond me. There are way too many other good choices. By default his own behavior in this incident will have black-balled him from working in the industry. You make your bed, you lay in it. Tough shit, Walker.

jeffro503 wrote:

I just listened to the Brennan's interview on my lunch break. 1st off , I could stop shaking my head , but it also left me...

I just listened to the Brennan's interview on my lunch break.

1st off , I could stop shaking my head , but it also left me a little infuriated! I felt like that kid got bullied / shoved around and followed the rules , and the people with all the money shoved him into a corner. He even mentioned that all he really wanted to do is just ride a factory bike , and was even willing to sell them the bike back for exactly what he paid for it for. The engine builder " Derek " even said he wouldn't even open up the engine , and that's what they were worried about.

Through this whole ordeal , it sounds like it could of all been prevented in the end , if Haiden or Brian just said " Hey kiddo , why don't you come by our place and spin a few laps on the bike? "

I can't help but see all the wrong in the way this was all handled. And as far as Derek Harris goes.....I know some on here don't care for the dude , but I honestly dig the hell out of the guy. I've dealt with him a few times and he went out of his way to write some long emails and answered all my questions. Stand up dude in my eyes.

Sideways91 wrote:

I was just stating the rules, and got downvoted for it. I had heard a rumor about Haiden going to his camp, but that's just that...

I was just stating the rules, and got downvoted for it. I had heard a rumor about Haiden going to his camp, but that's just that, a rumor.
We do know for a fact, that someone within his camp played a part in circumventing the claim, whether it be the Deegan's, Star Yamaha, Yamaha corporation, doesn't matter. Them changing out the motor with another teams motor is really fishy as well.

MOTOCAM25 wrote:

Per my previous post in another thread, the Morgantown Mafia isn’t just DC, Carrie is a big player behind the scenes. I believe she was the...

Per my previous post in another thread, the Morgantown Mafia isn’t just DC, Carrie is a big player behind the scenes.

I believe she was the one making threats to the Coopers about hosting a national at Cooperland in Oklahoma. I mean real threats that were never public. I heard it from the horses mouth 11 years ago.

I like DC, but I believe someone has his balls in a vice, between MAV and this issue, he has made some mistakes lately, either by his actions, or pressure from others…..

TriRacer27 wrote:

I would just like to point out: Deegan bike claim: 67 pages across 5 threads All-time championship battle between Tomac and Sexton: 4 pages Tim Gajser...

I would just like to point out:


Deegan bike claim: 67 pages across 5 threads

All-time championship battle between Tomac and Sexton: 4 pages

Tim Gajser wins MXGP title: Tim who?



Vital's a weird place man.

MX315mx wrote:

We have one of the greatest 450 battles of all time going on …1 point separates the two guys with few to go and we are...

We have one of the greatest 450 battles of all time going on …1 point separates the two guys with few to go and we are still hung up on this? Flame on I guess ! Hahaha

MOTOCAM25 wrote:

Per my previous post in another thread, the Morgantown Mafia isn’t just DC, Carrie is a big player behind the scenes. I believe she was the...

Per my previous post in another thread, the Morgantown Mafia isn’t just DC, Carrie is a big player behind the scenes.

I believe she was the one making threats to the Coopers about hosting a national at Cooperland in Oklahoma. I mean real threats that were never public. I heard it from the horses mouth 11 years ago.

I like DC, but I believe someone has his balls in a vice, between MAV and this issue, he has made some mistakes lately, either by his actions, or pressure from others…..

slowgti wrote:

I’m really curious about the national rumors. Cooperland would have been great to see a national at.

Dirty Points wrote:

MXSports is under fire for actively creating/fostering an environment where a competitor could bully a kid in their offices over multiple days rather than leaving the...

MXSports is under fire for actively creating/fostering an environment where a competitor could bully a kid in their offices over multiple days rather than leaving the rule enforcement detail to the AMA guys.

FastEddy wrote:

Exactly you would think LL's being the largest amateur motocross event on the planet things would be handled more professionally by MxSports & The AMA, All...

Exactly you would think LL's being the largest amateur motocross event on the planet things would be handled more professionally by MxSports & The AMA,
All eyes in the sport are on this event and also what happened.
Cotter trying to allegedly deter the kid from following through with the claim, to Matt Walker making violent threats is extremely ridiculous. And by reading racerhead last week...I got the impressions that DC just wants to downplay it like nothing ever happened. Which to me is unethical in a sense.

Bottom line... the kid made the claim and they took his money - bike should be his.
There shouldn't be any drama involved like someone trying to deter him or people making violent threats etc.
It's not just detrimental to the event...it's detrimental to the sport.

MOTOCAM25 wrote:

Per my previous post in another thread, the Morgantown Mafia isn’t just DC, Carrie is a big player behind the scenes. I believe she was the...

Per my previous post in another thread, the Morgantown Mafia isn’t just DC, Carrie is a big player behind the scenes.

I believe she was the one making threats to the Coopers about hosting a national at Cooperland in Oklahoma. I mean real threats that were never public. I heard it from the horses mouth 11 years ago.

I like DC, but I believe someone has his balls in a vice, between MAV and this issue, he has made some mistakes lately, either by his actions, or pressure from others…..

slowgti wrote:

I’m really curious about the national rumors. Cooperland would have been great to see a national at.

MOTOCAM25 wrote:

Old news, and I won’t get into it. It was unbelievable. When Coop was on the WTS, he hinted on it.