Deegan bike claimed? Everyone, please stop now

Nathaniel129 8/9/2022 1:30pm
8/9/2022 1:30pm
reynardfan1 wrote:
I guess to me it sounded like maybe someone was pulling his strings...some pulling for him to claim it and others saying it's a bad idea...
I guess to me it sounded like maybe someone was pulling his strings...some pulling for him to claim it and others saying it's a bad idea...

either way I doubt a kid in the 250B class got 17k rounded up on his own...hard to believe someone wasn't pulling the strings and others were warning against it.

Hard to say, it's just a bad look now either way...imo
You doubt a kid in 250B got 17k rounded up?
Dude, listen...first of all, there are numerous bikes in that class with $50k into them and you wouldn't even know the name of the kid riding it.
Second, yeah $17k is a lot of money, but that's not WTF money. I'm not trying to be demeaning but a lot of people can write a check for $17k no problem.
If I could get a Star 250 for $17k I'd write that check too!
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/9/2022 1:42pm
8/9/2022 1:42pm
aeffertz wrote:
One person in this thread just assumed that Star paid off the person that claimed the bike since the claim was later retracted and now everyone...
One person in this thread just assumed that Star paid off the person that claimed the bike since the claim was later retracted and now everyone is claiming that to be factual.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
These two guys need to learn what the word ‘alledgedly’ means..
aeffertz wrote:
You sure about that? Perhaps you should refresh yourself. “Used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there...
You sure about that? Perhaps you should refresh yourself.

“Used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.”

You took these two comments:

“…did Star pay to guy who made claim?”

“…why the hell didnt the guy that claimd it keep it ? the big dogs can always pay there way out of it.”

And then you alleged Star paid them off when you wrote:

“Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."

You implied the posed scenario of Star paying off the person who made the claim was true, even though there was/is zero evidence. One person made an assumption and then you ran off with it and presented it as factual. How is that any different than what my original comment was?

In other words, using the term allegedly means you’re implying something is true even though there’s no evidence to support it and that’s exactly what you did. That’s “presumably” why the other poster was confused.
How can anyone “present it as fact” when using the word ‘alledgedly’?🤷‍♀️
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/9/2022 1:47pm
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CclassrippaAclassshoota wrote:
yes the motor was swapped out, but the motor that was in the bike when it was claimed is the motor he would of received if...
yes the motor was swapped out, but the motor that was in the bike when it was claimed is the motor he would of received if the claim went through. thats how it was explained on the pulp show from wiege.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Agreed. The motor in the bike is what he would have received…. IF he’d have gone through with it. But then they dropped the claim. And...
Agreed. The motor in the bike is what he would have received…. IF he’d have gone through with it.

But then they dropped the claim.

And so then the motor was swapped… presumably to get it out of sight..
DonM wrote:
presumably, allegedly and I'm making shit up are all the same thing...two things you have said without merit in your last few posts are "Star guys...
presumably, allegedly and I'm making shit up are all the same thing...two things you have said without merit in your last few posts are "Star guys went mad" and "The motor was swapped...presumably to get it out of site"
Send me your address and I’ll get a dictionary sent for Christmas..

Presumably- used to convey that what is asserted is likely though not known for certain.

Alledgedly-used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.

I’ve not claimed anything as fact.
I’ve not made anything up- everything I mentioned is already in the thread before I got here.
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aeffertz 8/9/2022 1:52pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
How can anyone “present it as fact” when using the word ‘alledgedly’?🤷‍♀️
I don’t know how I could’ve spelt it out for you any clearer. Using the term allegedly claims that what you are saying is true or “has taken place” even though there is no proof.

If stubbornness was a good quality you’d be the greatest person on earth.
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/9/2022 1:59pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
How can anyone “present it as fact” when using the word ‘alledgedly’?🤷‍♀️
aeffertz wrote:
I don’t know how I could’ve spelt it out for you any clearer. Using the term allegedly claims that what you are saying is true or...
I don’t know how I could’ve spelt it out for you any clearer. Using the term allegedly claims that what you are saying is true or “has taken place” even though there is no proof.

If stubbornness was a good quality you’d be the greatest person on earth.
No!

To claim something as true, you speak using fact to back it up.

When you dont have fact to back it up, you use ‘Alledgedly’ to say something that is Spoken to be true but is not proven to be.

It is different.
You’re not claiming something to be fact if you use alledgedly.
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LungButter 8/9/2022 2:03pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
No! To claim something as true, you speak using fact to back it up. When you dont have fact to back it up, you use ‘Alledgedly’...
No!

To claim something as true, you speak using fact to back it up.

When you dont have fact to back it up, you use ‘Alledgedly’ to say something that is Spoken to be true but is not proven to be.

It is different.
You’re not claiming something to be fact if you use alledgedly.
You're forgetting (or purposely ignoring) a little thing call "context" there homie.

Goes back to that whole reading comprehension thing I was telling you about earlier.....
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/9/2022 2:11pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
No! To claim something as true, you speak using fact to back it up. When you dont have fact to back it up, you use ‘Alledgedly’...
No!

To claim something as true, you speak using fact to back it up.

When you dont have fact to back it up, you use ‘Alledgedly’ to say something that is Spoken to be true but is not proven to be.

It is different.
You’re not claiming something to be fact if you use alledgedly.
LungButter wrote:
You're forgetting (or purposely ignoring) a little thing call "context" there homie.

Goes back to that whole reading comprehension thing I was telling you about earlier.....
You still don’t like being called out about nobody actually being a Deegan hater in this thread huh?
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dsc131 8/9/2022 2:20pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
How can anyone “present it as fact” when using the word ‘alledgedly’?🤷‍♀️
aeffertz wrote:
I don’t know how I could’ve spelt it out for you any clearer. Using the term allegedly claims that what you are saying is true or...
I don’t know how I could’ve spelt it out for you any clearer. Using the term allegedly claims that what you are saying is true or “has taken place” even though there is no proof.

If stubbornness was a good quality you’d be the greatest person on earth.
I'll take a shot at this. Cool

The story broke and then several vitards started making up shit to try to come up with whatever explanations they could concoct about what "could have happened". They weren't in the know at all.

Then Missusernameisavailable took some of the made up shit and added "‘alledgedly’ to some of it, which gave it life and an aura of credibility, which, in the opinion of some (including me), was wrong.

The implication of credible allegation is that someone immediately involved made a statement of wrongdoing against another. Examples: She was arrested for making false allegations against her former employer. Jane alleges that she was attacked by John.

Bottom line is that you probably shouldn't use allegedly unless the allegations are made by a viable/reliable source. In this case the Vitards are neither.

...carry on.
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/9/2022 2:26pm
8/9/2022 2:26pm
dsc131 wrote:
I'll take a shot at this. B) The story broke and then several vitards started making up shit to try to come up with whatever explanations...
I'll take a shot at this. Cool

The story broke and then several vitards started making up shit to try to come up with whatever explanations they could concoct about what "could have happened". They weren't in the know at all.

Then Missusernameisavailable took some of the made up shit and added "‘alledgedly’ to some of it, which gave it life and an aura of credibility, which, in the opinion of some (including me), was wrong.

The implication of credible allegation is that someone immediately involved made a statement of wrongdoing against another. Examples: She was arrested for making false allegations against her former employer. Jane alleges that she was attacked by John.

Bottom line is that you probably shouldn't use allegedly unless the allegations are made by a viable/reliable source. In this case the Vitards are neither.

...carry on.
You sound far too sensible to be in here mate!🤣
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MXMattii 8/9/2022 2:30pm
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88FYNN88 wrote:
MSRP for a 2023 KX 250 is $8,499. So, if someone wanted Ryder Ds bike they could put a claim in for $16,998 for a factory...
MSRP for a 2023 KX 250 is $8,499. So, if someone wanted Ryder Ds bike they could put a claim in for $16,998 for a factory PC bike. That kind of seems like a great deal if someone wanted a top of the line PC Kawi bike. Why does that not happen more?
ScoobyDoo81 wrote:
Exactly what I was I thinking? The average Joe at Loretta's has at least $10k wrapped up into a bike without motor work..
Local pro's racing kyb, showa, wp,... has only spent 14k on suspension. Back in 2009 the suspension was the most expensive part on Clement Desalle his bike. Side note it was an Showa a-kit done by WV Suspension who also does the factory suspension from Showa in motogp, superbike and motocross. All those teams are based in Europe so that's easy for them (him) dunno with how many they work there.
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LungButter 8/9/2022 2:30pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
You still don’t like being called out about nobody actually being a Deegan hater in this thread huh?
You're still dodging reality at all costs 'eh?

Keepin' us entertained at least.
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GrapeApe 8/9/2022 2:48pm
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If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in general population where his fate will quickly be sealed by a crude shiv.

I mean, I clearly said "If".

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Nathaniel129 8/9/2022 2:57pm
8/9/2022 2:57pm Edited Date/Time 8/9/2022 2:57pm
GrapeApe wrote:
If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in...
If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in general population where his fate will quickly be sealed by a crude shiv.

I mean, I clearly said "If".

But he'll still be allowed to race LL'S next year...


Allegedly.
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DonM 8/9/2022 3:27pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in...
If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in general population where his fate will quickly be sealed by a crude shiv.

I mean, I clearly said "If".

Nathaniel129 wrote:
But he'll still be allowed to race LL'S next year...


Allegedly.
One could presume that he works for TMZ…
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profeshenal125 8/9/2022 4:02pm
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LL bike claiming crazy stuff. That’s why you won’t find my 04 double boost port cr125 there. I would leave after the my 1st moto podium anyway. Not enough chics there and way too many stupid kids. Jump in a creek loaded full of snakes , no Thx. I,LL take my tanning butter to the beach.
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Chris_Buehler 8/9/2022 4:18pm
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profeshenal125 wrote:
LL bike claiming crazy stuff. That’s why you won’t find my 04 double boost port cr125 there. I would leave after the my 1st moto podium...
LL bike claiming crazy stuff. That’s why you won’t find my 04 double boost port cr125 there. I would leave after the my 1st moto podium anyway. Not enough chics there and way too many stupid kids. Jump in a creek loaded full of snakes , no Thx. I,LL take my tanning butter to the beach.
Lmfao!!
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What the fuck is even going on in this thread? Dudes talking about beaches and idiots from the UK who can’t understand basic English?
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https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc
Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who knows if any truth to some of this material.
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MXMattii 8/9/2022 5:54pm
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88FYNN88 wrote:
MSRP for a 2023 KX 250 is $8,499. So, if someone wanted Ryder Ds bike they could put a claim in for $16,998 for a factory...
MSRP for a 2023 KX 250 is $8,499. So, if someone wanted Ryder Ds bike they could put a claim in for $16,998 for a factory PC bike. That kind of seems like a great deal if someone wanted a top of the line PC Kawi bike. Why does that not happen more?
ScoobyDoo81 wrote:
Exactly what I was I thinking? The average Joe at Loretta's has at least $10k wrapped up into a bike without motor work..
MXMattii wrote:
Local pro's racing kyb, showa, wp,... has only spent 14k on suspension. Back in 2009 the suspension was the most expensive part on Clement Desalle his...
Local pro's racing kyb, showa, wp,... has only spent 14k on suspension. Back in 2009 the suspension was the most expensive part on Clement Desalle his bike. Side note it was an Showa a-kit done by WV Suspension who also does the factory suspension from Showa in motogp, superbike and motocross. All those teams are based in Europe so that's easy for them (him) dunno with how many they work there.
Stock Honda +

Exhaust pipe: Doma titanium € 1000,00
Cylinder head: LS Motors € 1250,00
Triple clamps: Neken € 400,00

Front suspension: fully adjustable 49mm upside down Showa A kit WV2 tuned suspension € 5500,00
Rear suspension: Monocross with Factory Showa gas shock absorber Showa A kit WV2 tuned suspension € 3000,00

Front/rear wheels: 21 inch front, 19 inch rear Haan Wheels € 900,00
Front brake: 260mm single disc Moto Master, standard caliper € 170,00
Rear Brake: 240mm single disc Moto Master € 110,00
Fuel capacity: 7.2 litres CRM carbon fuel tank €1250,00
ACE: stickers € 150,00
BERIMAR: Brake pads € 28,00
DOMA: Pipes and silencers titanium € 1000,00
HAAN WHEELS: Wheels € 900,00
HAMMERHEAD: gear shifter € 120,00
HINSON: clutch, gasket inner hub € 800,00
LIGHTSPEED: footpegs € 250,00
MOTO MASTER front € 170,00 rear € 110,00
NGK: Spark plugs € 53,00
PIRELLI: Tyres front € 70,00 rear € 80,00
REGINA: Chains rx3 € 76,00
RENTHAL: Grips € 22,00, sprockets set € 72,00 and handle bar twin wall € 180,00
SFS: water hoses € 100,00
TWIN AIR: Air filters € 16,00 + special flow kit € 120,00
UFO: Plastic parts set € 110,00
LIGHTSPEED carbon protection parts € 350,00

So claiming a factory supported rider his bike for less than 20k is a bargain.
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88FYNN88 8/9/2022 6:06pm
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AH387 wrote:
https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who...
https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc
Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who knows if any truth to some of this material.
Jesus, I know you need to take everything he says with a grain of salt but damn if even 10% of that is true ….. that is fucked up!
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Jesus, I know you need to take everything he says with a grain of salt but damn if even 10% of that is true ….. that...
Jesus, I know you need to take everything he says with a grain of salt but damn if even 10% of that is true ….. that is fucked up!
Ya that was how I feel as well. I know he can lean towards the dramatic, as that's his thing, but there is a lot there to digest.
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AH387 wrote:
https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who...
https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc
Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who knows if any truth to some of this material.
What a fucking tool…if you suspect someone of cheating or using illegal parts as Kooksey eludes to you protest…claiming has zero to do with that…fucking idiot just loves to stir the pot and feed off of peoples stupidity….it’s like he read some comments in this thread first…
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aeffertz 8/9/2022 7:05pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in...
If it is true that Thisusernameisavailable is a child molester then he is a sick son of a bitch and I hope they put him in general population where his fate will quickly be sealed by a crude shiv.

I mean, I clearly said "If".

Allegedly Thisusernameisavailable murdered 10 innocent babies.

Oh wait, can we not just make things up and put allegedly at the front of it as a get out of jail free card?
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Chopsalot 8/9/2022 8:09pm
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I know we're a bunch of dirt bike riders but...

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183Matt 8/9/2022 10:03pm
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As crazy as ole Cooksy is, he did call the whole Haden Deegan to Star racing move last year, when everyone else was trying to avoid the subject or deny it. Just saying…
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Personally can’t stand cooksey and avoid watching anything he puts out.. but that vid is interesting, if there is even just a little truth to any of those things then it’s insane..
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/10/2022 2:11am
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Personally can’t stand cooksey and avoid watching anything he puts out.. but that vid is interesting, if there is even just a little truth to any...
Personally can’t stand cooksey and avoid watching anything he puts out.. but that vid is interesting, if there is even just a little truth to any of those things then it’s insane..
F*ck dude, you just asked “IF there’s any truth”

You have no idea what you’ve just done dude, I feel for you..😉
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blockhead17 wrote:
Personally can’t stand cooksey and avoid watching anything he puts out.. but that vid is interesting, if there is even just a little truth to any...
Personally can’t stand cooksey and avoid watching anything he puts out.. but that vid is interesting, if there is even just a little truth to any of those things then it’s insane..
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
F*ck dude, you just asked “IF there’s any truth”

You have no idea what you’ve just done dude, I feel for you..😉
Lmfao! Solid
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AH387 wrote:
https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who...
https://youtu.be/jWTznx_lFcc
Just to fuel the fire a bit. Worth the watch, even if you don't like the guy. As always, it's a bit wild so who knows if any truth to some of this material.
I don’t know, I don’t think Kooksy could even make up a story that crazy. Pretty juicy stuff.
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