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With all this talk about who should go to des nations at Red Bud, I got a hot take on that. What about J-Mart? Sure he’s coming off an injury and a major one at that, but he would have two months to get ready. Even a 90% J-Mart would give us a better shot than whoever we would pick in the 250 class. He also still races a 250 something JA21 and BamBam haven’t done in years. CC has never done anything special in the 250s outdoors. So what y’all think J-Mart or no?
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vitalriderCrf 7/20/2022 8:08pm
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Honestly not a bad idea. He could literally put all his effort into it. But we know Roger and the AMA don't like new/progressive/good ideas when it comes to MXdN
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Sully 7/20/2022 8:47pm
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He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
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SX_336 7/20/2022 9:01pm
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I’ve said this 3 times in the last 2 weeks. I’d rather see him than Barcia on a 250.
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ACBailey89 wrote:
With all this talk about who should go to des nations at Red Bud, I got a hot take on that. What about J-Mart? Sure he’s...
With all this talk about who should go to des nations at Red Bud, I got a hot take on that. What about J-Mart? Sure he’s coming off an injury and a major one at that, but he would have two months to get ready. Even a 90% J-Mart would give us a better shot than whoever we would pick in the 250 class. He also still races a 250 something JA21 and BamBam haven’t done in years. CC has never done anything special in the 250s outdoors. So what y’all think J-Mart or no?
I was thinking that earlier too after watching an interview with him. They’ll pick the team too soon tho

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KirkChandler 7/20/2022 11:38pm
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If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins that pop up from time to time for Roger to put them on the team.
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Gungadin 7/21/2022 1:57am
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Bike problems are one thing but JMart would have to prove his riding reliability as well.

He crashed a lot in his recent SX, outdoors and training rides.


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He will be to busy getting ready for world supercross
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
People do not understand physiology for the most part. They don’t understand the base that J-Mart has. People only comment on what they know, feel and experience.

You take the average Joe who rides and races. Locally and regionally we do not do 30 min motos. When we get hurt and spend time off the bike and come back, it takes us a while because we never had this huge base from previous training. Im speaking physical fitness on AND off the bike. People like J-Mart and Ryan Dungey LOVE fitness as much as they do riding. J-Mary can spend 4 months off the bike and be doing 30 min motos at a slower pace right away due to his base from all the years of professional racing. I promise you when J-Mart comes back for the last couple rounds, he will be up front. Like Dungey, he has a real work ethic and pride. He’d never go out there to ride around in 10th-15th place. He’s there to throw down.
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
Ask Justin Cooper…
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KirkChandler wrote:
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins...
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins that pop up from time to time for Roger to put them on the team.
I think he's on factory equipment.
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
Refer to Justin Cooper
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Nelson 7/21/2022 6:51am
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
Sully wrote:
Ask Justin Cooper…
Exactly
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UpTiTe 7/21/2022 6:53am
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
SX_336 wrote:
People do not understand physiology for the most part. They don’t understand the base that J-Mart has. People only comment on what they know, feel and...
People do not understand physiology for the most part. They don’t understand the base that J-Mart has. People only comment on what they know, feel and experience.

You take the average Joe who rides and races. Locally and regionally we do not do 30 min motos. When we get hurt and spend time off the bike and come back, it takes us a while because we never had this huge base from previous training. Im speaking physical fitness on AND off the bike. People like J-Mart and Ryan Dungey LOVE fitness as much as they do riding. J-Mary can spend 4 months off the bike and be doing 30 min motos at a slower pace right away due to his base from all the years of professional racing. I promise you when J-Mart comes back for the last couple rounds, he will be up front. Like Dungey, he has a real work ethic and pride. He’d never go out there to ride around in 10th-15th place. He’s there to throw down.
I agree with the majority of this, but physically fit and physically strong are two different things. JMart is an absolute freak training wise, and can do laps at my pace for hours, but it takes strength to go their pace, not just stamina. Strength, unless you’re on a cycle takes more than 8 weeks to build.
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KirkChandler wrote:
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins...
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins that pop up from time to time for Roger to put them on the team.
Star is supplying the motors for JMart
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KirkChandler wrote:
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins...
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins that pop up from time to time for Roger to put them on the team.
DonM wrote:
Star is supplying the motors for JMart
I was literally just wondering this in the other thread, that's good news.
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They would never put a rider on a non factory bike on the team, especially one with a history of mechanicals
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davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
Sully wrote:
Ask Justin Cooper…
Nelson wrote:
Exactly
What was Jmarts injury? I've seriously forgotten. Heels take a very long time to heal, ask Plessinger. Took him forever to get back up to speed.

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KiwiBermRailer 7/21/2022 7:18am
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Do the USA really not have a top class 250 rider to send?! This amazes me. All this talk about winning the event….
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Rosso391 7/21/2022 7:23am
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I like the idea. BUT he's not at race pace right now and they're making a decision by Unadilla.
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Sully wrote:
Ask Justin Cooper…
Nelson wrote:
Exactly
davis224 wrote:
What was Jmarts injury? I've seriously forgotten. Heels take a very long time to heal, ask Plessinger. Took him forever to get back up to speed.
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davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
SX_336 wrote:
People do not understand physiology for the most part. They don’t understand the base that J-Mart has. People only comment on what they know, feel and...
People do not understand physiology for the most part. They don’t understand the base that J-Mart has. People only comment on what they know, feel and experience.

You take the average Joe who rides and races. Locally and regionally we do not do 30 min motos. When we get hurt and spend time off the bike and come back, it takes us a while because we never had this huge base from previous training. Im speaking physical fitness on AND off the bike. People like J-Mart and Ryan Dungey LOVE fitness as much as they do riding. J-Mary can spend 4 months off the bike and be doing 30 min motos at a slower pace right away due to his base from all the years of professional racing. I promise you when J-Mart comes back for the last couple rounds, he will be up front. Like Dungey, he has a real work ethic and pride. He’d never go out there to ride around in 10th-15th place. He’s there to throw down.
UpTiTe wrote:
I agree with the majority of this, but physically fit and physically strong are two different things. JMart is an absolute freak training wise, and can...
I agree with the majority of this, but physically fit and physically strong are two different things. JMart is an absolute freak training wise, and can do laps at my pace for hours, but it takes strength to go their pace, not just stamina. Strength, unless you’re on a cycle takes more than 8 weeks to build.
He’s training on a 450. He will be fine. With that as well as two weekends of Nationals + the time between them and the MXoN he would be ready. Especially without the fatigue from traveling overseas. The race is here.
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SX_336 7/21/2022 9:08am
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Sully wrote:
He's been back on the bike for about 2 days, no way can he get himself into race shape in that short of time.
davis224 wrote:
He's got 2 months, how much time do you need?
Nelson wrote:
Refer to Justin Cooper
Justin Cooper had a nasty foot injury which prevented him from doing ANY cardio fitness. J-Mart was still able to do cardio. Not to mention I do not know many out there that train as hard off the bike as J-Mart. Dude is always hungry! Rides up front even when he IS injured.
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AH387 7/21/2022 11:41am
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I honestly think he would do just fine. If they plan to announce at Unadilla it would seem crazy to announce him on the team then, given that he just started riding again. But, realistically by the time the race happens, he should be good to go and I think he would do great. Probably won't happen but I certainly wouldn't complain if he ended up riding for USA.
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kpiper 7/21/2022 11:45am
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He would probably be a good pick but they likely won't choose him because he has not been racing.
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KirkChandler wrote:
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins...
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins that pop up from time to time for Roger to put them on the team.
DonM wrote:
Star is supplying the motors for JMart
Uhh, no, they are not supplying him engines.
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KirkChandler wrote:
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins...
If he was still on a Star Yamaha it might be a long shot, but the Club bikes still have a few too many mechanical gremlins that pop up from time to time for Roger to put them on the team.
DonM wrote:
Star is supplying the motors for JMart
Isn't Jamie Ellis doing the Club motors?
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stremme12 wrote:
Isn't Jamie Ellis doing the Club motors?
Yes AKA Twisted Development
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ACBailey89 wrote:
With all this talk about who should go to des nations at Red Bud, I got a hot take on that. What about J-Mart? Sure he’s...
With all this talk about who should go to des nations at Red Bud, I got a hot take on that. What about J-Mart? Sure he’s coming off an injury and a major one at that, but he would have two months to get ready. Even a 90% J-Mart would give us a better shot than whoever we would pick in the 250 class. He also still races a 250 something JA21 and BamBam haven’t done in years. CC has never done anything special in the 250s outdoors. So what y’all think J-Mart or no?
Bullshit... Get a grip on yerself.
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If USA picks a 250 guy then Hampshire is probably the best guy. He spends most of his time fighting through traffic.
JMart is a world class 250 guy. If he did a national and ran top 3-5 then he'd be a good bet.
Cooper would be great if he got good starts, but against 20 450s that won't happen. He doesn't move forward like Hampshire does.
Everyone else is either hurt or just not good enough.

France have Vialle, Belgium have Geerts, Australia has Lawrence x 2, Japan has Shimoda. USA probably going to have the 5th fastest 250 guy - statistically that means having an 11-13 on the board from the 250 rider. Really puts pressure on the two 450 guys.

In last 10 years winning teams have had a low of 14 points and a high of 32 points.

USA were damn close to winning in 2013, 2015 and 2016.

I think the French are going to be tough again and they have world class back up riders in each class. They literally could run 2 teams and both be on podium.

Febvre, Vialle, Renaux or Ferrandis, Bennistant, Musquin
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