Red Bud KTM media demo ride day.

Sr_Vet_Rider 5/18/2022 2:13pm
5/18/2022 2:13pm
gt80rider wrote:
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep...
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep for shits and giggles... ktm reps run the other direction when asked for help on minor issues... lol...
KTM customer service has been incredibly helpful on every aspect, in my opinion. I’ve been very impressed with their engineering and customer service, they must know who you are ?
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Kris Keefer 5/18/2022 2:56pm
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The two strokes we rode were pre production units (Maybe PP4-5) and the FI was not finalized yet. The 250 I rode was a little lean on top end, but the 300 was amazing and I am not a huge fan of two strokes. The 300 was the most fun for me to ride at Red Bud!
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wrc777 5/18/2022 3:06pm
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TBI pulls on top; certainly better than I expected after lots of time on the 300TPI and hearing that final ECU settings are ongoing with upcoming...
TBI pulls on top; certainly better than I expected after lots of time on the 300TPI and hearing that final ECU settings are ongoing with upcoming tests in SoCal later this Summer (with 91/Ethanol gas over the 93/clean? we had today). Still at 60:1 for 250/300 and 40:1 for that little Ripper Fun25!
wrc777 wrote:
So how does the 125 compare to the current ktm 125?
crc245 wrote:
The new 125 will be more than competitive with current models. Unsure on final ECU settings until production bikes actually hit dealerships, but at Red Bud...
The new 125 will be more than competitive with current models. Unsure on final ECU settings until production bikes actually hit dealerships, but at Red Bud it basically rode like my personal 15-hour 19’ 150SX with AJ/Digger jetting specs from the Tech Help thread...But with no loss up top or when over-revved. Austrian techs claim an HGS or FMF pipe/silencer give it even more way up there. KTM media department claims it’s the torquiest Fun25 engine they’ve ever produced (and I believe it).

Seriously better than I expected it to be for even a pre-pro Stateside setting.

Previous Austrian small-bore owners will notice a little weight gain, but it only increased stability when coupled with the new chassis. Consider me IMPRESSED. First rider off the track who I got to speak with about the TBI 125 was AK71, who’s recently off 125’s and currently races 250F’s; he had the biggest sh*t eating grin on his face coming in from a moto on it!
I was wondering how it compared to the current 150. I was hoping there was no 150 because the new 125 was close.
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crc245 5/18/2022 3:23pm
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wrc777 wrote:
I was wondering how it compared to the current 150. I was hoping there was no 150 because the new 125 was close.
This was the exact response I received from KTM! Haha no plans for a 150 kit in the immediate future, but the engineers didn't rule it out down the road. The 125 will be very popular in Europe where they continue to have classes for them, and with leaner production runs, will probably all be spoken for relatively quickly stateside as well. The 125's even got their own frame; one for the Fun25's, one for 250/300 two smokes, and one for 250/350/450 four smokes...

KTM/Austria group will continue investing in these bikes, and I greatly appreciate it.
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soggy 5/18/2022 6:41pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep...
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep for shits and giggles... ktm reps run the other direction when asked for help on minor issues... lol...
“Hi I’m gt80rider and I’m a loser. “
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crusher773 5/18/2022 7:16pm
5/18/2022 7:16pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2022 12:49pm
What I want to know is when can the demo days come back? We are going to be buying a 125 for my son but I'd like a demo day and that nice $500 incentive they usually hand out.
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Thisusernameisavailable 5/18/2022 11:29pm
5/18/2022 11:29pm
gt80rider wrote:
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep...
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep for shits and giggles... ktm reps run the other direction when asked for help on minor issues... lol...
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“Hi I’m gt80rider and I’m a loser. “
Internet bully in action.

Why the admins let it continue is concerning & shameful.
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MX558 5/19/2022 4:25am
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I noticed on the 350 test they talked about the gearing on the spec sheet for 23 it says 1452 but the test rider says it was a 51. If the spec sheet is right that would explain the abrupt power in map 2.
Moto Donkey 5/19/2022 4:35am
5/19/2022 4:35am
Kris Keefer wrote:
The two strokes we rode were pre production units (Maybe PP4-5) and the FI was not finalized yet. The 250 I rode was a little lean...
The two strokes we rode were pre production units (Maybe PP4-5) and the FI was not finalized yet. The 250 I rode was a little lean on top end, but the 300 was amazing and I am not a huge fan of two strokes. The 300 was the most fun for me to ride at Red Bud!
I thought it was fantastic that there was no embargo on content being released from the media day on the new Kato's. When are we gonna see the Racer X content from the day? I assume the Keefer Tested review will be next week?
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mxb2 5/19/2022 6:38am
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gt80rider wrote:
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep...
Wish yamaha would do some f1 on their smokers.... ktm has some bad engineering and absolutely zero customer service... heck, I can text my yamaha rep for shits and giggles... ktm reps run the other direction when asked for help on minor issues... lol...
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“Hi I’m gt80rider and I’m a loser. “
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Internet bully in action.

Why the admins let it continue is concerning & shameful.
I hope thats a joke, bully. Lol. Stay inside. Its a cruel world out there.
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Kris Keefer 5/19/2022 7:16am
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Kris Keefer wrote:
The two strokes we rode were pre production units (Maybe PP4-5) and the FI was not finalized yet. The 250 I rode was a little lean...
The two strokes we rode were pre production units (Maybe PP4-5) and the FI was not finalized yet. The 250 I rode was a little lean on top end, but the 300 was amazing and I am not a huge fan of two strokes. The 300 was the most fun for me to ride at Red Bud!
Moto Donkey wrote:
I thought it was fantastic that there was no embargo on content being released from the media day on the new Kato's. When are we gonna...
I thought it was fantastic that there was no embargo on content being released from the media day on the new Kato's. When are we gonna see the Racer X content from the day? I assume the Keefer Tested review will be next week?
Racer X vids should start dropping this week.. Our videos our a little long so Simon has to edit a lot. Smile Keefer Tested Pod will be up next week about the two strokes! Getting some more info on them today...
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sandman768 5/19/2022 7:29am
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The pre proto test are good, you have our attention… but the test/ reviews of the real production bikes is what is most relevant ….
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dedi684 5/19/2022 7:32am
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Not much video or info on the 125 yet I've had one ordered for a month now
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Thisusernameisavailable 5/19/2022 9:09am
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mxb2 wrote:
I hope thats a joke, bully. Lol. Stay inside. Its a cruel world out there.
I’m not at risk brother, but someone somewhere will be. It costs nothing to be respectful, always. Talk people UP, never down.👍🏻
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mxb2 5/19/2022 9:51am
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mxb2 wrote:
I hope thats a joke, bully. Lol. Stay inside. Its a cruel world out there.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I’m not at risk brother, but someone somewhere will be. It costs nothing to be respectful, always. Talk people UP, never down.👍🏻
Social media is good and bad,. Nothing wrong with posting, truth, facts. Etc.

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tek14 5/19/2022 11:27am
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No dyno charts about new bikes?
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ML512 5/19/2022 12:11pm
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tek14 wrote:
No dyno charts about new bikes?
As with most OEM launches, we’re not provided with a dyno chart and we don’t have one in hand to dyno. The two strokes that were ridden weren’t final production bikes either.
profeshenal125 5/19/2022 1:11pm
5/19/2022 1:11pm
Red Bud unique and great place to test. Too bad it was windy I see the American Flag moving pretty good. Dries the top 3-4 inches of sand out fast.
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Hammer 663s 5/20/2022 11:25am
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My kid is already priming the pump for a new 125 after seeing the Walker vids. Demo day at the Shoug please!

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150ripper 5/20/2022 2:06pm
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Can anyone who has ridden the new 125sx comment on the midrange?? Really thought I was missing out with the 150sx over the 125 (heard it had more overrev). Rode my buddies 125sx last weekend and really missed the midrange hit. Almost got myself in trouble a couple of times trying to pick the front end up to get over bumps and the hit just wasn't there. Seems like a few people have said the 125 has a bit more midrange power now. Bike looks and sounds incredible!

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