So......Bobrychev "wanted " to race the USA Nationals.......but...

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Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship.... Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc.. Absolutely a tough decision to make. But in...
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship....
Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc..
Absolutely a tough decision to make.
But in the long term, does anyone think in a post putin Russia, that they will have a benevolent leader ??

Their international banning is an attempt to turn the Russian people against putin.
Not sure I agree with the tactic.
But it's being done whether we like it or not.
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Funny thing is, he and his wife have official Dutch documents...
Renner153 wrote:
This is actually incorrect. His wife and kids have Dutch Passports, however, Bobby doesnt. If he did, he would have no problem getting his license. The...
This is actually incorrect. His wife and kids have Dutch Passports, however, Bobby doesnt. If he did, he would have no problem getting his license. The thing is, he has lived in The Netherlands as long as he lived in Russia. He does not support the war, and as far as I know, I dont think he has ever really backed Putin in anything, he just wants to ride his dirt bike. I believe his wife actually renounce Russian citizenship just a few weeks ago as well.

It is amazing how the Russian hockey players are still allowed to play, even though they are under a much much larger spotlight than the 3 Russian MX racers this is affecting. Hopefully DC can come in here an shed some light on this.
I wish we could let Evgeny race but the FIM has followed the lead of the FIA, the IOC, and many other international sporting associations in restricting the participation of Russian athletes in competition. The AMA, AMA Pro Racing and FIM North America all concur with the FIM's decision. Bobyshev can't get a release from his Russian license in order to even apply for an AMA license because the FIM will not recognize the Russian federation until this war ends, and so his existing license can't be voided.

It's the same as the James Stewart, Cade Clason, Broc Tickle and Christian Craig suspensions, which were handed down by the FIM. None of them could compete in any AMA events, including the nationals, until the suspensions ended, despite the fact that AMA Pro Racing in Florida sanctions Pro Motocross, not the AMA in Ohio. Had we let them race they would have received lifetime bans from the FIM. The same would probably happen to Evgeny Bobryshev if he was allowed to race before the FIM lifts their ban on Russian participation. That's why he can't race the British Championships or MXGP either, or even supercross if he actually wanted to.

This war can't end fast enough, but by the images from Bucha and the Donbas, it's getting worse.

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No, no, no Jeffro. I respect you and your thoughts on this forum but do not compare this to the American invasion of Iraq. It seems...
No, no, no Jeffro. I respect you and your thoughts on this forum but do not compare this to the American invasion of Iraq. It seems like you're completely off base in this topic.

I understand the logic behind not liking how individual Russian athletes are treated right now but i disagree. Take public stance against Putin and the people supporting him and we can talk. Otherwise, too bad.

Google Massacre in Bucha. Google Russian support in Germany. Google history of sport in Russia. People has to wake up and stop thinking there is only one guy to blame (people are starting to realize that now). The Russian athletes will be "collateral casualties" in the fight against the dictatorship, terrorists and rapists. It sucks for those who oppose this but that is a price they unfortunately will have to pay for the greater good.

I do feel bad for Bobby if he truly opposes the regime and its enablers. Anyways, this is the last post from me on this topic.
'Google'...that bastian of truth.

Ask yourself how Iraq got carpet bombed , and why we didnt see a single corpse in the media.


Dont be that dumb.
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Political bullshit. Don't want to get political but western countries and their allies do worse all the time and face no consequences.
/\ This. Hard to find a country (including the USA, which I love) in the world that isn't or hasn't recently committed some crime against humanity.

Sports are supposed to bring people together, leading to fewer armed altercations, etc. If you support these bans on Russian athletes you're just a pawn in some political power struggle. The powers that be that perpetrate these conflicts don't give two cents about you or your family.
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Good point.
Certainly didn't take long for F1 to put them back on the GP schedule.

And we all know...
I’m just saying…if we want to isolate the evil countries let’s at least be consistent…
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta...
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta compare apples to apples. Russia and China have both been know to mistreat people within their borders. What is going on currently is a whole different level. If the US invaded Canada and claimed it as theirs, I would expect similar sanctions against the US.
But it's one for them to go into hong kong the way they did, threaten Japan over taiwan, put people into slave labor camps and into of it killing those people. Yeah it's all a-O- fuckin-k as long as people still get thier nikes and iphones. China should be isolated even more then Russia. But difference is how many people in this world are on chinas back door payroll.
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Because he's Russian , he's not allowed to compete. Which I think is wrong. I see Russian athletes being punished , just like the rest of...
Because he's Russian , he's not allowed to compete. Which I think is wrong. I see Russian athletes being punished , just like the rest of the Russian population , because they have some murdering A-hole in charge over there. Bobry has been in this sport a very long time , has always seemed like a great dude , and he rips on a dirt bike.

Honestly , I think this is bullshit.
Nope. Ban one, you ban them all. You can’t have selective enforcement of the rules.
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Instead of worrying about Bobrychev maybe we should be concerned with all the riders/racers that won't be able to ride in places like SONA. Or the citizens in Bucha who live and work at and around SONA. Last I heard SONA was supposed to host the Junior Motocross World Championship next year, I would be surprised if that happens.

So, no I'm not worried about one Russian rider that can't ride right now.

Here's a link to SONA so you guys know where it is and what it does: https://stksona.com/
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I’m just saying…if we want to isolate the evil countries let’s at least be consistent…
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta...
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta compare apples to apples. Russia and China have both been know to mistreat people within their borders. What is going on currently is a whole different level. If the US invaded Canada and claimed it as theirs, I would expect similar sanctions against the US.
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But it's one for them to go into hong kong the way they did, threaten Japan over taiwan, put people into slave labor camps and into...
But it's one for them to go into hong kong the way they did, threaten Japan over taiwan, put people into slave labor camps and into of it killing those people. Yeah it's all a-O- fuckin-k as long as people still get thier nikes and iphones. China should be isolated even more then Russia. But difference is how many people in this world are on chinas back door payroll.
Man, I agree with you more than I can espouse at this time. Come over to Non-Moto, I just made Parole today.
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It’s pointless to ban him the NHL could ban ovechkin and it wouldn’t change a thing governments have killed innocent people since the beginning of time it’s not gonna ever stop happening thinking stopping athletes from competing is gonna to do anything is funny . People on here acting like there standing up for what’s right is funny like get over yourself
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You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now. Those rest of the Russian population are murdering iinnocent women and children n masses at the moment in Ukraine. Believe me bro, there are no innocent Russian people. Putin ratings at the moment among those boor, ordinary Russian people as hight as 81%. I was born under the soviet occupation era, and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick, and tired of hearing about those boor ordinary russians. They are all the same, with some very rare exceptions. Those motherfuckers occupied, and killed Estonians for 50 years.
So am I sorry, that Bobby can't race. Of course I'm. But I'm also pretty confident, that he voted for Putin.
End of discussion.
Period
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keinz wrote:
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now...
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now. Those rest of the Russian population are murdering iinnocent women and children n masses at the moment in Ukraine. Believe me bro, there are no innocent Russian people. Putin ratings at the moment among those boor, ordinary Russian people as hight as 81%. I was born under the soviet occupation era, and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick, and tired of hearing about those boor ordinary russians. They are all the same, with some very rare exceptions. Those motherfuckers occupied, and killed Estonians for 50 years.
So am I sorry, that Bobby can't race. Of course I'm. But I'm also pretty confident, that he voted for Putin.
End of discussion.
Period
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life. Bobby isn’t your everyday Russian. The dude is far from political and just wants to race his dirt bike. His family plans to move even further from Russian in the next year or two.
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keinz wrote:
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now...
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now. Those rest of the Russian population are murdering iinnocent women and children n masses at the moment in Ukraine. Believe me bro, there are no innocent Russian people. Putin ratings at the moment among those boor, ordinary Russian people as hight as 81%. I was born under the soviet occupation era, and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick, and tired of hearing about those boor ordinary russians. They are all the same, with some very rare exceptions. Those motherfuckers occupied, and killed Estonians for 50 years.
So am I sorry, that Bobby can't race. Of course I'm. But I'm also pretty confident, that he voted for Putin.
End of discussion.
Period
Renner153 wrote:
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life...
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life. Bobby isn’t your everyday Russian. The dude is far from political and just wants to race his dirt bike. His family plans to move even further from Russian in the next year or two.
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite well informed
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Bobryshev is a russian ambassador of the sport. So open your fucking mouth, and let your followers to know, what's really happening, and you are not supporting this shit. Did he do that?
No, I don't think so
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keinz wrote:
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now...
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now. Those rest of the Russian population are murdering iinnocent women and children n masses at the moment in Ukraine. Believe me bro, there are no innocent Russian people. Putin ratings at the moment among those boor, ordinary Russian people as hight as 81%. I was born under the soviet occupation era, and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick, and tired of hearing about those boor ordinary russians. They are all the same, with some very rare exceptions. Those motherfuckers occupied, and killed Estonians for 50 years.
So am I sorry, that Bobby can't race. Of course I'm. But I'm also pretty confident, that he voted for Putin.
End of discussion.
Period
Renner153 wrote:
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life...
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life. Bobby isn’t your everyday Russian. The dude is far from political and just wants to race his dirt bike. His family plans to move even further from Russian in the next year or two.
keinz wrote:
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite...
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite well informed
He said end of discussion. Period.

That means he’s right.
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keinz wrote:
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now...
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now. Those rest of the Russian population are murdering iinnocent women and children n masses at the moment in Ukraine. Believe me bro, there are no innocent Russian people. Putin ratings at the moment among those boor, ordinary Russian people as hight as 81%. I was born under the soviet occupation era, and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick, and tired of hearing about those boor ordinary russians. They are all the same, with some very rare exceptions. Those motherfuckers occupied, and killed Estonians for 50 years.
So am I sorry, that Bobby can't race. Of course I'm. But I'm also pretty confident, that he voted for Putin.
End of discussion.
Period
Renner153 wrote:
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life...
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life. Bobby isn’t your everyday Russian. The dude is far from political and just wants to race his dirt bike. His family plans to move even further from Russian in the next year or two.
keinz wrote:
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite...
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite well informed
I just basically had Bobby living with me for 6 weeks. You can hate Russia, you can hate Putin, but they are not all the same. This is just a guy that races dirt bikes for a living and living in a different country with no plans to go back.
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Renner153 wrote:
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life...
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life. Bobby isn’t your everyday Russian. The dude is far from political and just wants to race his dirt bike. His family plans to move even further from Russian in the next year or two.
keinz wrote:
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite...
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite well informed
Renner153 wrote:
I just basically had Bobby living with me for 6 weeks. You can hate Russia, you can hate Putin, but they are not all the same...
I just basically had Bobby living with me for 6 weeks. You can hate Russia, you can hate Putin, but they are not all the same. This is just a guy that races dirt bikes for a living and living in a different country with no plans to go back.
Meet Klitschko brothers. Those two Ukrainians are the Boxing world legends, who enjoyed their sport and had no plans to go back.


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You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite...
You can bring a person out of Russia, but you can't never bring Russia out of a person. And yeah. Like I wrote before, I'm quite well informed
Renner153 wrote:
I just basically had Bobby living with me for 6 weeks. You can hate Russia, you can hate Putin, but they are not all the same...
I just basically had Bobby living with me for 6 weeks. You can hate Russia, you can hate Putin, but they are not all the same. This is just a guy that races dirt bikes for a living and living in a different country with no plans to go back.
keinz wrote:
Meet Klitschko brothers. Those two Ukrainians are the Boxing world legends, who enjoyed their sport and had no plans to go back. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/07/542404/s1200_Screenshot_2022_04_07_at_19.28.42.jpg[/img]
Meet Klitschko brothers. Those two Ukrainians are the Boxing world legends, who enjoyed their sport and had no plans to go back.


You are right, you know everything about everyone. We should all bow to you I assume. You are probably one of the idiots sending Bobby and his family threatening messages on Instagram too.
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Political bullshit. Don't want to get political but western countries and their allies do worse all the time and face no consequences.
This
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Wait, MX Sports has said that Bobrychev is not allowed to race here?
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FIM North America put out a press release about it.

https://fim-northamerica.com/notices/fim-north-america-concurs-fim-reco…
So he needs to marry an american chick right now in order to get American citizenship so he can race again.

Seems like a simple loop hole. AMA practically wrote the book on loopholes and gray areas.

This is so stupid what's happening. Blaming Russian citizens for Putin is like blaming Roczen for Hitler. Its not even related.

I just hope MX sports figures their sh#t out.
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So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide?

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NATEP231 wrote:
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/07/542410/s1200_311E6584_06D8_4B62_AD1A_5AF2F91CD4FF.jpg[/img]
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide?

If you haven't noticed from recent video. NO AMERICAN acknowledges Biden as the US President.
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Instead of worrying about Bobrychev maybe we should be concerned with all the riders/racers that won't be able to ride in places like SONA. Or the...
Instead of worrying about Bobrychev maybe we should be concerned with all the riders/racers that won't be able to ride in places like SONA. Or the citizens in Bucha who live and work at and around SONA. Last I heard SONA was supposed to host the Junior Motocross World Championship next year, I would be surprised if that happens.

So, no I'm not worried about one Russian rider that can't ride right now.

Here's a link to SONA so you guys know where it is and what it does: https://stksona.com/


I think this is the track that is supposed to hold the 2023 FIM Junior World Championships. It's in Bucha, which has seen the worst of it. I can't imagine what it looks like now...

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FWYT wrote:
Wait, MX Sports has said that Bobrychev is not allowed to race here?
jeffro503 wrote:
From what I heard , the FIM wouldn't issue him a license. " AMA pro racing " ( which is different from AMA ) , which...
From what I heard , the FIM wouldn't issue him a license. " AMA pro racing " ( which is different from AMA ) , which I guess calls the shots in MX sports , basically said " No , he is Russian , hes not allowed ".

This shit pisses me off! Keep this God damn political shit out of our sport is all I ask.
Letting him ride, or not letting him ride, either way it makes a political statement.

It's unfortunate but definitely the right decision given what Russia is doing.

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BTW....UFC , Hockey , ect.....aren't banning Russian athletes.
Why is our sport doing it?
They are banned in pool and billiards in Europe but not the US. Can't play any tournaments in Europe including last week's world 10-ball championships and this week's world 9-ball championships. Maybe they are backed financially by Russia? Feel bad for the players. And Bobrychev.
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You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now...
You are clearly don't know, what are you talking about.Those athletes, for whom you are so sorry, are flying Russian flags in Russian television right now. Those rest of the Russian population are murdering iinnocent women and children n masses at the moment in Ukraine. Believe me bro, there are no innocent Russian people. Putin ratings at the moment among those boor, ordinary Russian people as hight as 81%. I was born under the soviet occupation era, and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick, and tired of hearing about those boor ordinary russians. They are all the same, with some very rare exceptions. Those motherfuckers occupied, and killed Estonians for 50 years.
So am I sorry, that Bobby can't race. Of course I'm. But I'm also pretty confident, that he voted for Putin.
End of discussion.
Period
Renner153 wrote:
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life...
Sorry mate, I think YOU are the one that’s well informed. Bobryshev hasn’t lived in Russia for most of if not all of his adult life. Bobby isn’t your everyday Russian. The dude is far from political and just wants to race his dirt bike. His family plans to move even further from Russian in the next year or two.
Yet he still remains a, “Russian Citizen”? Why is that?

Reminds me of a guy, that wanted to be known as, “David from Corona”, to the fans. Even when his actions showed and proved his allegiance to his home country.

Don’t insult our intelligence with an Open Borders agenda. He’s a Russian Citizen, case closed.
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NATEP231 wrote:
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/07/542410/s1200_311E6584_06D8_4B62_AD1A_5AF2F91CD4FF.jpg[/img]
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide?

You do understand the term “collateral damage”?

Trying to demonize and compare U.S. action to the wholesale invasion of Ukraine by Russia is ludicrous at best.
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NATEP231 wrote:
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/07/542410/s1200_311E6584_06D8_4B62_AD1A_5AF2F91CD4FF.jpg[/img]
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide?

HonDawg17 wrote:
If you haven't noticed from recent video. NO AMERICAN acknowledges Biden as the US President.
If you haven't noticed from recent video. NO AMERICAN acknowledges Biden as the US President.
You’re wrong, it’s just the idiots who believe the election was stolen who don’t.
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NATEP231 wrote:
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/07/542410/s1200_311E6584_06D8_4B62_AD1A_5AF2F91CD4FF.jpg[/img]
So when will we start to see the ban of American riders world wide?

HonDawg17 wrote:
If you haven't noticed from recent video. NO AMERICAN acknowledges Biden as the US President.
If you haven't noticed from recent video. NO AMERICAN acknowledges Biden as the US President.
jjavaman wrote:
You’re wrong, it’s just the idiots who believe the election was stolen who don’t.
It wasn't stolen, it was fortified.. r-right..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0
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dkurtd wrote:
Instead of worrying about Bobrychev maybe we should be concerned with all the riders/racers that won't be able to ride in places like SONA. Or the...
Instead of worrying about Bobrychev maybe we should be concerned with all the riders/racers that won't be able to ride in places like SONA. Or the citizens in Bucha who live and work at and around SONA. Last I heard SONA was supposed to host the Junior Motocross World Championship next year, I would be surprised if that happens.

So, no I'm not worried about one Russian rider that can't ride right now.

Here's a link to SONA so you guys know where it is and what it does: https://stksona.com/
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[embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3jZUYlrPJc&t=21s[/embed] I think this is the track that is supposed to hold the 2023 FIM Junior World Championships. It's in Bucha, which has seen the worst...


I think this is the track that is supposed to hold the 2023 FIM Junior World Championships. It's in Bucha, which has seen the worst of it. I can't imagine what it looks like now...

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Yea that's SONA, the track I referenced. They are big into the sidecar races there but also hold regular motocross races as well. According to their Facebook page the track has been completely destroyed.
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