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TeamGreen 3/25/2022 7:59am
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bens152 wrote:
Really shows how the mental side effects people differently in this sport. Look at JA21 now. Absolutely ripping!
Nice! I was wondering if anyone would wonder about things and get to this conclusion: Jason Anderson 2018-2019...
This AIN'T the same as "El Hombré 2022".
Not by a damn sight. Grinning

HIs self-confidence and his ability to get into his "Race Day Zone" and/or NOT let other things going on to "get in his head" has completely changed for the better. Been there, seen it: he's got this.

I'm glad he's able to be open and honest about things. I was around when he was having those days where other time consuming stuff was getting to him, like that night at A1: there was too much going on & he couldn't get in to that place he needed to be in on race day. Too many things pulling him in different directions. MC talked about having days like this, too...the night that he lost to Jeffro in St Louis, for example.

Jason has matured...grown up A LOT in these last few years. He's had a few things go on in his life that have given him clarity and understanding about "the important things"... and we're way past a lot of the stuff he's talking about in there: he's one of the few that's actually said to himself...

"Damn! They're paying me TO DO THIS!? Huh. I hope no one figures out how much fun this is. They might stop paying me!" Laughing

To some of us, that may sound ridiculous; but, if you listen to a few of the podcasts with RV or even RD, you're given an opportunity to hear where they were at mentally and how it took them a while to "get it". RV is really good about sharing this and what it was like.

I hope some of the younger guys coming thru the ranks are able to benefit from this.

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bens152 wrote:
Really shows how the mental side effects people differently in this sport. Look at JA21 now. Absolutely ripping!
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Nice! I was wondering if anyone would wonder about things and get to this conclusion: Jason Anderson 2018-2019... This AIN'T the same as "El Hombré 2022"...
Nice! I was wondering if anyone would wonder about things and get to this conclusion: Jason Anderson 2018-2019...
This AIN'T the same as "El Hombré 2022".
Not by a damn sight. Grinning

HIs self-confidence and his ability to get into his "Race Day Zone" and/or NOT let other things going on to "get in his head" has completely changed for the better. Been there, seen it: he's got this.

I'm glad he's able to be open and honest about things. I was around when he was having those days where other time consuming stuff was getting to him, like that night at A1: there was too much going on & he couldn't get in to that place he needed to be in on race day. Too many things pulling him in different directions. MC talked about having days like this, too...the night that he lost to Jeffro in St Louis, for example.

Jason has matured...grown up A LOT in these last few years. He's had a few things go on in his life that have given him clarity and understanding about "the important things"... and we're way past a lot of the stuff he's talking about in there: he's one of the few that's actually said to himself...

"Damn! They're paying me TO DO THIS!? Huh. I hope no one figures out how much fun this is. They might stop paying me!" Laughing

To some of us, that may sound ridiculous; but, if you listen to a few of the podcasts with RV or even RD, you're given an opportunity to hear where they were at mentally and how it took them a while to "get it". RV is really good about sharing this and what it was like.

I hope some of the younger guys coming thru the ranks are able to benefit from this.

I was expecting at least 3 more paragraphs from you on this topic haha
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Zesiger 112 3/25/2022 8:10am
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Speaking your mind these days sure sounds alot like crying about it. He won the championship then complains because his sponsor want him to promote their...
Speaking your mind these days sure sounds alot like crying about it. He won the championship then complains because his sponsor want him to promote their product? I’m just saying these guys have it too easy to hear this much complaint.
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They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put...
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put under to perform.
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor job they risk losing their job. Same as anyone else.

And I’m an engineer, worked in the automotive industry under Japanese management, and the products I work on now support the nations power grid. So pressure of doing a job right is something I understand.
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
Speaking your mind these days sure sounds alot like crying about it. He won the championship then complains because his sponsor want him to promote their...
Speaking your mind these days sure sounds alot like crying about it. He won the championship then complains because his sponsor want him to promote their product? I’m just saying these guys have it too easy to hear this much complaint.
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They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put...
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put under to perform.
Zesiger 112 wrote:
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor...
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor job they risk losing their job. Same as anyone else.

And I’m an engineer, worked in the automotive industry under Japanese management, and the products I work on now support the nations power grid. So pressure of doing a job right is something I understand.
You’re under so much pressure at work you’re on vital midway through a work day
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RaceFace58 3/25/2022 8:23am
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As with any position he’s being paid to deal with the pressure. I took a new position with much more pay recently and guess what came with that…..more responsibility and bigger pressure. I knew that going in. Did he not get a huge bonus with that title? He woke up that next day knowing is bank account just grew by a number with a bunch of zeroes on the end and complaining that it felt no different? That’s on him if it felt no different. Don’t cash the check if that’s the case. Resenting it lol. Sounds like he was forced to sign the contract
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c0ncEpT wrote:
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put...
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put under to perform.
Zesiger 112 wrote:
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor...
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor job they risk losing their job. Same as anyone else.

And I’m an engineer, worked in the automotive industry under Japanese management, and the products I work on now support the nations power grid. So pressure of doing a job right is something I understand.
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You’re under so much pressure at work you’re on vital midway through a work day
Day off to go racing. Shew, hope I don’t go into a mental depression like Kroc and Anderson from all the stress of performing such an activity.
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c0ncEpT wrote:
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put...
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put under to perform.
Zesiger 112 wrote:
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor...
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor job they risk losing their job. Same as anyone else.

And I’m an engineer, worked in the automotive industry under Japanese management, and the products I work on now support the nations power grid. So pressure of doing a job right is something I understand.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
You’re under so much pressure at work you’re on vital midway through a work day
Some people work shift work.
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor...
What grand pressure are they under compared to anyone else who works? They are pressured by their employer to complete a task, if do a poor job they risk losing their job. Same as anyone else.

And I’m an engineer, worked in the automotive industry under Japanese management, and the products I work on now support the nations power grid. So pressure of doing a job right is something I understand.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
You’re under so much pressure at work you’re on vital midway through a work day
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Day off to go racing. Shew, hope I don’t go into a mental depression like Kroc and Anderson from all the stress of performing such an...
Day off to go racing. Shew, hope I don’t go into a mental depression like Kroc and Anderson from all the stress of performing such an activity.
Be careful! If you do just be honest about.
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c0ncEpT wrote:
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put...
They have it easy? I can assure you that you have never been under the kind of pressure the top guys in this sport are put under to perform.
Um, fireman, police, military, er doc, nurses etc...

Sorry the pressure of sport is inconsequential.
I face the same risk to life and limb as a weekend practice rider.
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kpiper 3/25/2022 8:55am
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Walter Payton and Buzz Aldrin also suffered depression after their "achieving moments".

Many suspected Anderson's poor performances after winning his title were mental. You could probably say even Eli went through something like that after his SX title just not to the extent Jason describes.

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Over the past 10 years we've seen all the 450 sx champions either retire at 27 or suffer from mental issues on the track. You gotta have your head in the right place to be the best supercross rider in the world, denying that is a recipe for failure.
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kpiper 3/25/2022 10:12am
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early wrote:
Over the past 10 years we've seen all the 450 sx champions either retire at 27 or suffer from mental issues on the track. You gotta...
Over the past 10 years we've seen all the 450 sx champions either retire at 27 or suffer from mental issues on the track. You gotta have your head in the right place to be the best supercross rider in the world, denying that is a recipe for failure.
and the ones that retired at 27 were because of mental issues. RC, RV, and RD.

While he didn't retire (yet), Kenny is in the same boat. Tough sport.
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zehn 3/25/2022 10:19am
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Only on Vital would you read “my day job has the same level of pressure as a professional racer”
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zehn wrote:
Only on Vital would you read “my day job has the same level of pressure as a professional racer”
I’m not one who said that but in the current state of things you think being a cop has even more pressure? Imagine if Anderson has to worry at his next signing he might get ambushed because 5 other racers have already been ambushed and killed this year. Only on Vital would people think that racing motorcycles (something we all do for fun!) is the most pressure packed occupation there is. Not to mention the paychecks that are included. I know, getting up every day and having to train and practice sucks man. Then at noon you can decide if you’re going mountain biking, surfing, the beach, or just hang around the house. Sounds pretty bad. Glad I’m stuck in my 40 hour a week gig.
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RaceFace58 3/25/2022 10:40am
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Ouch good one. I’m impressed how many have man crushes that blind them to what makes someone a “professional” athlete. It isn’t just going fast and getting paid for it. As we wonder why there aren’t more outside sponsorships in the sport I can today point to a few more reasons. I wouldn’t expect Kyle978 to be able to think that through though.
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He is a great candidate to make history while improving the human race by competing against women next year.
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Moto Nomad 3/25/2022 11:14am
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Have you ever struggled with pressure or workload and not cared as much about your job performance or quality of your work? I have. I think it's really interesting to hear this mental aspect of the sport. These guys are humans, not robots.
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zehn wrote:
Only on Vital would you read “my day job has the same level of pressure as a professional racer”
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I’m not one who said that but in the current state of things you think being a cop has even more pressure? Imagine if Anderson has...
I’m not one who said that but in the current state of things you think being a cop has even more pressure? Imagine if Anderson has to worry at his next signing he might get ambushed because 5 other racers have already been ambushed and killed this year. Only on Vital would people think that racing motorcycles (something we all do for fun!) is the most pressure packed occupation there is. Not to mention the paychecks that are included. I know, getting up every day and having to train and practice sucks man. Then at noon you can decide if you’re going mountain biking, surfing, the beach, or just hang around the house. Sounds pretty bad. Glad I’m stuck in my 40 hour a week gig.
You are 100% correct. The stress of being a pro racer is not a life or death type of stress and all these guys can walk away at any moment they want to.

If no is shooting at you then it is a pretty good day regardless of if Aldon or Roger gets on your case about lap times.
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zehn 3/25/2022 11:57am
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I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man.

The guy who said what I was talking about above said he’s an engineer. Let me know when you have an entire industry built around you, media outlets following your every move, your decision to have a child, you work performance, a website and forum dedicated to your day to day life
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Always been a fan of him and his hang it out style. Really never knew where his personality was at though. Mainly because I don’t dig into a lot of these riders social media accounts and stuff. Saw a pretty good glimpse of it now in that interview. He’s definitely moved to the top of my favorite riders list now.
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RaceFace58 wrote:
Judging by the sucking up most here are doing it sounds like he did the right thing by the team. It’s amazing that even one person...
Judging by the sucking up most here are doing it sounds like he did the right thing by the team. It’s amazing that even one person would think this is good, honest or not. The real question is if this is what he’s comfortable revealing, let’s hear the things he still keeps quiet on. You know this isn’t all of it. It’s never all of it.
lol

Did you listen to the podcast? He literally say's that.
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Zesiger 112 3/25/2022 1:48pm
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zehn wrote:
I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man. The guy who said what I was talking about above said...
I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man.

The guy who said what I was talking about above said he’s an engineer. Let me know when you have an entire industry built around you, media outlets following your every move, your decision to have a child, you work performance, a website and forum dedicated to your day to day life
You think the entire industry is built around Jason Anderson? Shit the announcers cant even get his name right every week.
I was respond to the guy who “can assure me I’ve never felt the pressure” like I’m living of the government or trust fund.
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plowboy 3/25/2022 2:07pm
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Let's be honest...Jason has always been a ditzy fucker. He can ride the wheels off a dirt bike and he loves winning but the stuff that comes with being a top sponsored rider is confusing/frustrating for him. Just let him ride and leave him alone. He can do work.
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I always wondered what happened. It all makes sense with that confession. Glad he is back in a good spot and now knows what he can and cannot handle spotlight wise. I think its so cool he doesnt even know where his ring, trophys and #1 plate are. Thats speaks volumes right there.
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zehn wrote:
I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man. The guy who said what I was talking about above said...
I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man.

The guy who said what I was talking about above said he’s an engineer. Let me know when you have an entire industry built around you, media outlets following your every move, your decision to have a child, you work performance, a website and forum dedicated to your day to day life
Actually let’s say Kawasaki fires Anderson for something. Think he’s worried about what he’s going to do to pay his mortgage next month? The engineer might. And it’s not going to be news if he gets fired. Other firms aren’t going to be calling his agent to see if he’ll work for them. And every day that engineer is responsible if anything goes wrong. Not just what he messed up, but what a vendor messed up, or equipment broke, or what someone he supervises messed up. I’m not saying being a Pro MXer and even more a champion is easy at all. it’s not. But give me a break.
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
I get these guys train hard and put a lot into it, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who flys to races...
I get these guys train hard and put a lot into it, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who flys to races, sits in their big motor home while their free bike is prepped, gets paid more money than I’ll ever see to ride dirt bikes in front of thousands of fans.
Championship feeling wasn’t everything you thought it was going to be? I’m sure that money spends just the same. Come work with the real world where there are no wins.

Yes I know I’m an A-hole and have accepted this way of life, raw speech is good right? so bring the down votes!
Is it possible that riders may experience a slight bit of stress due to the obligations and expectations of both themselves and their team? Hey, I gotta admit though, just chilling in a high end motor home while the teams mechanics go over every inch on my free bike does sound pretty sweet.
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zehn wrote:
I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man. The guy who said what I was talking about above said...
I’m not talking about the police officer or firefighter so put away that straw man.

The guy who said what I was talking about above said he’s an engineer. Let me know when you have an entire industry built around you, media outlets following your every move, your decision to have a child, you work performance, a website and forum dedicated to your day to day life
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Actually let’s say Kawasaki fires Anderson for something. Think he’s worried about what he’s going to do to pay his mortgage next month? The engineer might...
Actually let’s say Kawasaki fires Anderson for something. Think he’s worried about what he’s going to do to pay his mortgage next month? The engineer might. And it’s not going to be news if he gets fired. Other firms aren’t going to be calling his agent to see if he’ll work for them. And every day that engineer is responsible if anything goes wrong. Not just what he messed up, but what a vendor messed up, or equipment broke, or what someone he supervises messed up. I’m not saying being a Pro MXer and even more a champion is easy at all. it’s not. But give me a break.
Unless the engineers building collapses and kills people, he is not going to be in the news. He may get fired, but there are 1000x more engineering positions for him to fill than if Anderson gets toasted. A professional SX racer exists in a small community, with limited opportunities for a long career. Stress is different for all people. Anderson stresses about being a someone people idolize for riding a motorcycle, when he knows he just an ordinary person with a gift on two wheels. He may even stress about being crippled or dying from a “work related” accident (though I doubt it). The engineer stated his stress is related to get investors a return on their investment. I can relate to the engineers stress, being an accountant fr start ups. I can’t relate to Jason’s stress, but at least I can understand it. Limited opportunities, short career, accident risk, demands on time, being seen as a “god” rather than just an athlete, starting your career at a young age (less mature), and your value decreasing as you get older, unlike other long term careers where experience increases your value.

If you don’t put him on the some higher level and just think of him as a cool kid who is great at riding a motorcycle, you may better understand him rather than judging him.
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I used to be a fan of Jase but he gets carried away to much and has had some real whack jobs like Bmayze, Hopper and...
I used to be a fan of Jase but he gets carried away to much and has had some real whack jobs like Bmayze, Hopper and Grohndal that take value away from his platform.
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You can also chose not to listen to it. I like listening to people like them personally you can learn from people like that you don't...
You can also chose not to listen to it.

I like listening to people like them personally you can learn from people like that you don't have to agree with everything they say but you can always take something.
Im a fan on the podcast. Ive invested hundreds of my hours listening to them and think some of the best ones are non moto related. My point is that when he gets some people who are shady like Julian Wallace it puts his reputation down.
I don't even know what im going about im just speaking my mind so go and down vote me
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