Hinson clutch baskets- the REAL difference?

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Its time for a new clutch basket in the RM250.
Talon Billet £137
Hinson, £307.

So, I fully appreciate the Hinson is a quality product, but so is the Talon, I understand how the clutch works, I understand what the weaknesses of a poor clutch basket could be.

What Are the benefits of having the Hinson? And are they worth it?



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250 cross 3/4/2022 3:52pm
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Good question, my RM needs one too!
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Sr_Vet_Rider 3/4/2022 4:17pm
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I can not speak for a talon clutch hub, as I have never even seen one, let alone use one.
But I’ve had a Hinson full clutch in every one of my RM250’s. The stock RM 250 clutch is not that great and the Hinson works fantastic. Well worth the money, IMO
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If you ride a ton of hours and plan on keeping the bike for 60+ hours then it’s a good purchase. The baskets seem to last forever!
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Broseph 3/4/2022 4:28pm
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Wiseco also makes a very nice billet basket. Almost uncharacteristically nice for a Wiseco product.

They also sell many of their billet baskets under the ProX name. Same basket, just a few bucks cheaper.
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I’ve had a Wiseco basket in my CRF450 for over 100hrs. No notches.
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Rider 5280 3/4/2022 7:08pm
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First off, I've never owned a Hinson part of any kind, but have only heard great things.

Regarding Wiseco forged clutch baskets:
(1) They are forged (which I love for many reasons, read up on it), then final machined
(2) They are Teflon coated to reduce sliding friction with the discs - and it's very noticeable to me
(3) I originally started using these baskets because they have a lifetime warranty against notching - that sold me. And they've proven themselves for me. Zero complaints.
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My mentality on clutch products is to buy a product from a company that’s specializes in clutch products. Hinson.
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Broseph 3/4/2022 7:13pm
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AHarmon237 wrote:
My mentality on clutch products is to buy a product from a company that’s specializes in clutch products. Hinson.
But you bought a bike from a company that specializes in musical instruments…
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bama205 3/4/2022 7:17pm
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Broseph wrote:
But you bought a bike from a company that specializes in musical instruments…
Yamaha motor corp?
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Broseph wrote:
But you bought a bike from a company that specializes in musical instruments…
bama205 wrote:
Yamaha motor corp?
Yeah, the one with tuning forks as their logo.
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Broseph wrote:
But you bought a bike from a company that specializes in musical instruments…
bama205 wrote:
Yamaha motor corp?
Broseph wrote:
Yeah, the one with tuning forks as their logo.
I’ve got a Yamaha in the garage…and one in my sitting room. I ride the one in the garage, my wife plays the one in the sitting room….

The one in the sitting room costs almost as much as the one sitting in the garage….and had I wanted too, I could have spent almost 15X on the one in the sitting room as I did the one on the garage…but we don’t need a $200k piano…
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I've owned a lot of suzukis, so I've changed a lot of clutches, lol.

I found wiseco the best, and good value. I had a Hinson on a rm125 and was surprised it went through the hard anodizing where they groove from the plates quite quickly.

Once upon a time, I had a full Hinson on a rm144 on a massive sand track...the bike had a wierd squeal for all day. Once I opened it up, a oem plate had shattered and nearly cut right through the inner hub, not Hinson fault at all, but damn, that was a spendy lol and you can't even buy them Hinson rm125 hubs and pressure plates I think.
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Titan1 wrote:
I’ve got a Yamaha in the garage…and one in my sitting room. I ride the one in the garage, my wife plays the one in the...
I’ve got a Yamaha in the garage…and one in my sitting room. I ride the one in the garage, my wife plays the one in the sitting room….

The one in the sitting room costs almost as much as the one sitting in the garage….and had I wanted too, I could have spent almost 15X on the one in the sitting room as I did the one on the garage…but we don’t need a $200k piano…
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Get the wiseco. Seriously, it's awesome.
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Bruce372 wrote:
I've owned a lot of suzukis, so I've changed a lot of clutches, lol. I found wiseco the best, and good value. I had a Hinson...
I've owned a lot of suzukis, so I've changed a lot of clutches, lol.

I found wiseco the best, and good value. I had a Hinson on a rm125 and was surprised it went through the hard anodizing where they groove from the plates quite quickly.

Once upon a time, I had a full Hinson on a rm144 on a massive sand track...the bike had a wierd squeal for all day. Once I opened it up, a oem plate had shattered and nearly cut right through the inner hub, not Hinson fault at all, but damn, that was a spendy lol and you can't even buy them Hinson rm125 hubs and pressure plates I think.
We’re you replacing just the baskets on your Suzuki’s?
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Bruce372 3/5/2022 12:23am
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Bruce372 wrote:
I've owned a lot of suzukis, so I've changed a lot of clutches, lol. I found wiseco the best, and good value. I had a Hinson...
I've owned a lot of suzukis, so I've changed a lot of clutches, lol.

I found wiseco the best, and good value. I had a Hinson on a rm125 and was surprised it went through the hard anodizing where they groove from the plates quite quickly.

Once upon a time, I had a full Hinson on a rm144 on a massive sand track...the bike had a wierd squeal for all day. Once I opened it up, a oem plate had shattered and nearly cut right through the inner hub, not Hinson fault at all, but damn, that was a spendy lol and you can't even buy them Hinson rm125 hubs and pressure plates I think.
Sandusky26 wrote:
We’re you replacing just the baskets on your Suzuki’s?
Nope, everything.... until the Hinson stuff became discontinued on the 125.

Prox does cheap hub and pressure plate on 125.

The 250 hubs were hard to find with different model years.
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Motofinne 3/5/2022 3:48am
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I'd go with the cheaper Talon, Wiseco or ProX basket. Unless you want to go full Hinson (or Rekluse), don't spend that much on only a basket.

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murph783 3/5/2022 5:22am
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The stock yamaha stuff is good enough I don’t need to change it out at this point…but when I was riding bikes where I didn’t have that luxury, always Hinson. The rekluse stuff looks pretty damn solid these days too, but tried and true Hinson will do it for me.
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mxtech1 3/5/2022 7:17am
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From my experience, any billet clutch components are huge upgrades over OEM parts. But comparing billet products from one aftermarket company to another, you aren’t going to find any major differences in performance, quality, or durability. They are all pretty darn good because they use similar materials, heat treatments, and coatings.

If you can afford Hinson, go for it. But by all means some of the lower cost products from Talon, Wiseco, etc. are still really good as well.
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kijen 3/5/2022 7:38am
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I have a yz250 for about 12 years now and had another my son raced for a few years, stock replaced often, weisco was good, hinson was good, (dont be fooled by marketing, they still wear and pretty sure the pros get them for free, i think that is what you are paying for.), the best and longest lasting has been Barnett with the SS inserts.
Just my experience. End of the day pretty sure any aftermarket is an improvement.
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murph783 wrote:
The stock yamaha stuff is good enough I don’t need to change it out at this point…but when I was riding bikes where I didn’t have...
The stock yamaha stuff is good enough I don’t need to change it out at this point…but when I was riding bikes where I didn’t have that luxury, always Hinson. The rekluse stuff looks pretty damn solid these days too, but tried and true Hinson will do it for me.
The YZ125 has used pretty much all the same clutch components since like the 80's or 90's. The OEM inner hub is soft cast aluminum and the steel plates dig into it. It's a pretty well known weak point. For the price of a Hinson inner hub you can buy like 5 or 6 OEM hubs...LOL So, it's still kind of hard to justify the Hinson. Unless the hassle of removing and replacing your inner hub matters a lot to you.

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