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1/23/2022 12:10pm
Bogle acts like he wasn't going to go backwards anyway...
TripleFive wrote:
Which makes it okay to blow him up.
How many of you guys were crying when Chad was holding Dungey up while getting lapped in 2017? This was way more egregious
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1/23/2022 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2022 12:14pm
Dude, if bogle wanted to go fight him after the race or saw his front wheel off next week, fine! Frontier justice. But doing it a...
Dude, if bogle wanted to go fight him after the race or saw his front wheel off next week, fine! Frontier justice. But doing it a lap down is just a bad look.
JazzyJJ wrote:
Why wait until next week like that makes it OK but doing it in the same race does not? Barcia is a punk. Eye for an...
Why wait until next week like that makes it OK but doing it in the same race does not? Barcia is a punk. Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and all, but there's enough people looking for payback where barcia will end up blind sooner or later
yak651 wrote:
Because doing it from a lap down is like sucker punching someone. Yeah it’s gets your point across but it’s in poor taste.
He's only a lap down because Barcia put him on the ground. Barcia ruined Bogle's race. That payback was well deserved
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1/23/2022 12:16pm
So as long as you strike first it’s ok based on AMA’s logic… ok
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1/23/2022 12:20pm
I am racing for a cardboard wall plaque in 60 plus and will take out anyone I can for that fucking plastisized treasure! I bet they both knew what was coming!
You would too if you race 60 novice with me!
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1/23/2022 12:25pm
How many of you guys were crying when Chad was holding Dungey up while getting lapped in 2017? This was way more egregious
Did Dungey first punt Reed to make him a lap down? No. Apple's to oranges.
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1/23/2022 12:27pm
How many of you guys were crying when Chad was holding Dungey up while getting lapped in 2017? This was way more egregious
Did Dungey first punt Reed to make him a lap down? No. Apple's to oranges.
Why can’t fruit be compared?
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1/23/2022 12:28pm
Barcia needs to make smarter passes. He smashed a guy that fights for 10-15th place finishes. But good on Bogle for retaliating.
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1/23/2022 12:29pm
Dude, if bogle wanted to go fight him after the race or saw his front wheel off next week, fine! Frontier justice. But doing it a...
Dude, if bogle wanted to go fight him after the race or saw his front wheel off next week, fine! Frontier justice. But doing it a lap down is just a bad look.
DonM wrote:
So there’s rules for retaliation….payback etiquette…
This isn’t Nam. There are rules.
Yep and they were implemented…Bogle DQed and Barcia docked…by their former team manager no less…
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DonM wrote:
So there’s rules for retaliation….payback etiquette…
This isn’t Nam. There are rules.
DonM wrote:
Yep and they were implemented…Bogle DQed and Barcia docked…by their former team manager no less…
So you are agreeing with me then? Cool
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1/23/2022 12:30pm
Bogle waiting for the 51 to come around to lap him



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1/23/2022 12:31pm
Anyone who thinks what Bogle did was wrong needs to wake up, I'm a Barcia fan but you live by the sword you die by the sword, I love what Bogle did he was only a lap down because Barcia did him dirty. Perfect way to pay him back, Barcia should be smarter
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1/23/2022 12:32pm
How many of you guys were crying when Chad was holding Dungey up while getting lapped in 2017? This was way more egregious
It would be different if Barcia was battling for the lead.
It would be different if Barcia hadn't hooked Bogle up heavy just minutes before.

Barcia got what was coming for him.
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1/23/2022 12:32pm
If the ama would warn barcia on the dirty passes he does EVERY RACE, he would easily finish 2-3 spots back every week.
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1/23/2022 12:33pm
One thing I know for sure is that we’ve seen these useless threads and comments from you before.
davistld01 wrote:
And yet…you replied, proof positive you are as useless as any thread or comment I could possibly make.
You two get a room.
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1/23/2022 12:33pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Paid him back: [Quote]Tomac took over the points lead from Justin Barcia who had a strange night. Not only did Barcia suffer an uncharacteristic bad start...
Paid him back:

Tomac took over the points lead from Justin Barcia who had a strange night. Not only did Barcia suffer an uncharacteristic bad start, but he also got into it early with Justin Bogle while they were both battling just inside the top 10. Bogle was left on the ground for some time before remounting and going a lap down. When Barcia came around to lap Bogle, Bogle made sure to show Barcia exactly how he felt about the situation. Barcia ended up on the ground, Bogle would later be disqualified, and Barcia would also be penalized a position as well from the earlier contact.
Yeah. I just listened to the interviews and re-read the comments. Caviar&cigarettes338 Stated
"Bogle stalled his bike in the main line then got it going and Barcia was coming by clip Barcia front wheel took him down". I thought this was the first incident and then what we saw on tv was the second. I think the stall comment was refering to Ricky's comment during the race. I stand corrected. I understand Barcia's reputation and certainly a lot of this is on him BUT why do these guys still go wide with him (or anyone else) behind them? We were all taught to protect the inside, yet all of these guys get pissed when they leave the door open and some takes it. During the post race interviews, many of them mentioned how difficult it was due to the number of 90 degree turns. It seemed that this track made for agressive racing which only highlights the previous issue that i stated, if you don't protect the inside line someone is going to take it. You can't get mad if you go wide and someone comes in and slams the door. The top 8 are far to close in times and i think we'll see more of this going forward.
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1/23/2022 12:37pm
This isn’t Nam. There are rules.
DonM wrote:
Yep and they were implemented…Bogle DQed and Barcia docked…by their former team manager no less…
So you are agreeing with me then? Cool
Nah….
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1/23/2022 12:45pm
This isn’t Nam. There are rules.
DonM wrote:
Yep and they were implemented…Bogle DQed and Barcia docked…by their former team manager no less…
So you are agreeing with me then? Cool
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am...

It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like this...

From RacerX:

While we don’t have footage of Barcia’s original pass on Bogle, our Steve Matthes interviewed Justin Brayton after the race. Brayton was right behind Barcia and Bogle early and said Barcia was making “gnarly” moves and his pass on Bogle was “not good.” Bogle was then out for revenge.

What I -DO- understand is this: the "retaliatory strike" was potentially VERY dangerous. But, I -also- understand HOW Bogle got to the point that he felt he needed to do "something".

While I cringe at decisions like this, I am fairly stoked in the fact that J-Bone was involved in making the decision & the violations/penalties having a bit of balance to them.

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1/23/2022 12:51pm
DonM wrote:
Yep and they were implemented…Bogle DQed and Barcia docked…by their former team manager no less…
So you are agreeing with me then? Cool
TeamGreen wrote:
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am... It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like...
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am...

It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like this...

From RacerX:

While we don’t have footage of Barcia’s original pass on Bogle, our Steve Matthes interviewed Justin Brayton after the race. Brayton was right behind Barcia and Bogle early and said Barcia was making “gnarly” moves and his pass on Bogle was “not good.” Bogle was then out for revenge.

What I -DO- understand is this: the "retaliatory strike" was potentially VERY dangerous. But, I -also- understand HOW Bogle got to the point that he felt he needed to do "something".

While I cringe at decisions like this, I am fairly stoked in the fact that J-Bone was involved in making the decision & the violations/penalties having a bit of balance to them.

How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd

It's the only way Barcia will learn is if people give it back
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1/23/2022 12:57pm
So you are agreeing with me then? Cool
TeamGreen wrote:
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am... It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like...
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am...

It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like this...

From RacerX:

While we don’t have footage of Barcia’s original pass on Bogle, our Steve Matthes interviewed Justin Brayton after the race. Brayton was right behind Barcia and Bogle early and said Barcia was making “gnarly” moves and his pass on Bogle was “not good.” Bogle was then out for revenge.

What I -DO- understand is this: the "retaliatory strike" was potentially VERY dangerous. But, I -also- understand HOW Bogle got to the point that he felt he needed to do "something".

While I cringe at decisions like this, I am fairly stoked in the fact that J-Bone was involved in making the decision & the violations/penalties having a bit of balance to them.

jaun wrote:
How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd It's the only...
How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd

It's the only way Barcia will learn is if people give it back
Totally agree with this. And I’m a Barcia fan. 😂👍
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1/23/2022 12:58pm
I think each SX team needs "an enforcer" like in hockey. Somebody gets outta line, crack some fuckin skulls ya know. (for some of you nellies, there is sarcasm in that statement just to make a point). The AMA isn't going to do anything proactive about it obviously. I'm all for rubbing and stuff like Anderson's move on KR was totally good. But reckless intentional take outs where riders get hurt need to be reigned in. We don't need any more riders getting taken out of the championship race and SX is dangerous enough as it is. To me, its a little like HS basketball. I always told our son, the referees are going to dictate the degree of physicality allowed each game. If the other team is giving you the business and they are getting away with it due to refs being lax, give it back 3X worse. Push it so far that it gets way out of control and to the point where the refs have to call timeouts, call the coaches in and team captains and reign that shit in and start calling anything a foul.
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1/23/2022 1:00pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2022 1:01pm
Barcia or Dumb Dumb as I call him will get his sooner or later. Someone will clean him out and hurt him. I like clean hard racing as much as everyone else. Watching Hannah, Johnson, Ward etc making good hard clean passes is what SX and MX is all about. Dumb Dumb just rams and takes out people when he gets a bad start. It’s like his brain shuts off when he gets a bad start. Typical AMA move slap on the hand for the crowd favorite. Listen to Brayton’s interview with Mathis he saw the Barcia move.
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1/23/2022 1:01pm
One thing I know for sure is that we’ve seen these useless threads and comments from you before.
davistld01 wrote:
And yet…you replied, proof positive you are as useless as any thread or comment I could possibly make.
But you are starting threads about a race you didn't even see.............Please just go away.
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1/23/2022 1:03pm
So you are agreeing with me then? Cool
TeamGreen wrote:
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am... It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like...
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am...

It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like this...

From RacerX:

While we don’t have footage of Barcia’s original pass on Bogle, our Steve Matthes interviewed Justin Brayton after the race. Brayton was right behind Barcia and Bogle early and said Barcia was making “gnarly” moves and his pass on Bogle was “not good.” Bogle was then out for revenge.

What I -DO- understand is this: the "retaliatory strike" was potentially VERY dangerous. But, I -also- understand HOW Bogle got to the point that he felt he needed to do "something".

While I cringe at decisions like this, I am fairly stoked in the fact that J-Bone was involved in making the decision & the violations/penalties having a bit of balance to them.

jaun wrote:
How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd It's the only...
How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd

It's the only way Barcia will learn is if people give it back
Bogle could have had a much harsher penalty -YET- he didn't get one. You see, it was RETALIATORY...plain and simple. Retaliation don't play at the AMA.

Barcia's move can and to some extent -did- get some consideration as "a racing incident"; but, he still got penalized...though MANY are gonna say "not enough". Still, he DID get a penalty and it is in the books.

If you go strictly by the rules, they could have sent Bogle home for a few weeks...or more. Just so ya know, ya gotta be VERY CAREFUL about the perception of HOW, WHEN & WHY...to quote you...

"give it back"

All the while, I completely get where you and Justin Bogle & his team ...and more than a few others...can see it differently.

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1/23/2022 1:06pm
We really need to see the footage of the first incident to determine if incident #2 was warranted….
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Bogle waiting for the 51 to come around to lap him [img]https://i.redd.it/05lwffszy8n21.jpg[/img]
Bogle waiting for the 51 to come around to lap him



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1/23/2022 1:12pm
tomlopez wrote:
Expecting downvotes, but I genuinely do not understand how people still root for Barcia. What has he done since his 250 title? He's never a legitimate...
Expecting downvotes, but I genuinely do not understand how people still root for Barcia. What has he done since his 250 title? He's never a legitimate title contender, is never the fastest guy, and just causes issues for everyone else on the track. Dude has been nothing but a hazard for actual competitors ever since 2013. I would get it if he was actually, like, good. But the best he's ever finished in points is 4th last season if I'm not mistaken. So, a decade of being allergic to winning after round 1, creating enemies with other racers, and just an arrogant, cocky guy, and people still root for the guy? Oh yeah I forgot, he has a YouTube channel now, which fixes everything.
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TeamGreen wrote:
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am... It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like...
I dunno. As a ridiculously biased Barcia fan...and I am...

It's kinda hard to ignore Bogle laying on the ground...to begin with...and have supporting evidence like this...

From RacerX:

While we don’t have footage of Barcia’s original pass on Bogle, our Steve Matthes interviewed Justin Brayton after the race. Brayton was right behind Barcia and Bogle early and said Barcia was making “gnarly” moves and his pass on Bogle was “not good.” Bogle was then out for revenge.

What I -DO- understand is this: the "retaliatory strike" was potentially VERY dangerous. But, I -also- understand HOW Bogle got to the point that he felt he needed to do "something".

While I cringe at decisions like this, I am fairly stoked in the fact that J-Bone was involved in making the decision & the violations/penalties having a bit of balance to them.

jaun wrote:
How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd It's the only...
How the fuck do you call that balance, Barcia takes Vogel out he gets one position, Bogle pays him back and gets DQ'd

It's the only way Barcia will learn is if people give it back
TeamGreen wrote:
Bogle could have had a much harsher penalty -YET- he didn't get one. You see, it was [i]RETALIATORY[/i]...plain and simple. Retaliation don't play at the AMA...
Bogle could have had a much harsher penalty -YET- he didn't get one. You see, it was RETALIATORY...plain and simple. Retaliation don't play at the AMA.

Barcia's move can and to some extent -did- get some consideration as "a racing incident"; but, he still got penalized...though MANY are gonna say "not enough". Still, he DID get a penalty and it is in the books.

If you go strictly by the rules, they could have sent Bogle home for a few weeks...or more. Just so ya know, ya gotta be VERY CAREFUL about the perception of HOW, WHEN & WHY...to quote you...

"give it back"

All the while, I completely get where you and Justin Bogle & his team ...and more than a few others...can see it differently.

The harsher penalty is because there is intent, with Barcia there was also intent. He never attempted to make the lass without contact so it's no different.
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1/23/2022 1:23pm
sandman768 wrote:
We really need to see the footage of the first incident to determine if incident #2 was warranted….
Are you calling Brayton a liar. Wink Tongue
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1/23/2022 1:24pm
Is there any video from both, the pass from barcia and the retaliation from Bogle?
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1/23/2022 1:25pm
IMHO…If they were going to DQ one rider over this they really should have DQed both, kind of as a FAFO lesson for both riders.
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