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Racerman967 1/16/2022 5:14pm
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Eli has a hydro clutch
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Racerman967 wrote:
Eli has a hydro clutch
Wrong
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Chris_Buehler 1/16/2022 5:23pm
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I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan improving his starts. He's 27 yrs old, he's not a kid anymore. He's won titles, has a very successful career going. I would assume he has all his bases covered in training and coaching. Don't you think his starts are what they are? What's he going to do at this point to improve them?
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Gordon Liddy 1/16/2022 5:23pm
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Ferrandis needs to hire Mike Alessi and practice starts with him all week.
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Ranman68 1/16/2022 5:24pm
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The ratio of thumbs up vs thumbs down on what you've posted is less than ideal.
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Chris_Buehler wrote:
I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan...
I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan improving his starts. He's 27 yrs old, he's not a kid anymore. He's won titles, has a very successful career going. I would assume he has all his bases covered in training and coaching. Don't you think his starts are what they are? What's he going to do at this point to improve them?
I know he improved his starts outdoors, so he must've changed something in order for that to happen.
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Chris_Buehler 1/16/2022 5:54pm
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Chris_Buehler wrote:
I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan...
I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan improving his starts. He's 27 yrs old, he's not a kid anymore. He's won titles, has a very successful career going. I would assume he has all his bases covered in training and coaching. Don't you think his starts are what they are? What's he going to do at this point to improve them?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
I know he improved his starts outdoors, so he must've changed something in order for that to happen.
I'm a big fan of his and Tomac so it's anguish for me every Sat night gate drop lol
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
Barcia's doing well on the GasGas, but he also did well on the Yamaha.
The battle between Tomac and Barcia on a Yamaha at one of the nationals was incredible.
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TbonesPop 1/16/2022 6:48pm
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Chris_Buehler wrote:
I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan...
I have a question for all the experts here. We know Vital is a collection of the greatest mx minds anywhere. Everyone is talking about Dylan improving his starts. He's 27 yrs old, he's not a kid anymore. He's won titles, has a very successful career going. I would assume he has all his bases covered in training and coaching. Don't you think his starts are what they are? What's he going to do at this point to improve them?
Tiger Woods shut down his tournament play and changed his golf swing in the middle of his career, long after he won just about everything there is to win. He did that to get better. Professionals at all levels always need to always be improving and developing. Ferrandis is no different, no rider is.
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stiksandstones 1/16/2022 7:22pm
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TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
quadzrulebro wrote:
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that...
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that the bike might have something to do with the fact that you never see blu pigs holeshot races? I know they’re fast, but it takes more than horsepower.
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If DF starts too 4 last night, we’re having a completely different discussion this morning. And that discussion would be about how much better the bikes...
If DF starts too 4 last night, we’re having a completely different discussion this morning. And that discussion would be about how much better the bikes are with Star running the program and DF has a shot at the SX title.

This thread isn’t going to age well for you. I’m going to be sure to bring it back up every time DF (or Eli) kicks ass.

DF started in 14th and worked his way up to 6th. He and Eli had the fastest qualifying lap times. The speed is there. They just aren’t getting good starts, of which a 15-20 position rider on a stock motor YZ450 with a worse fare pick is getting better starts on.

It’s not the fucking bike. Losers make excuses. Winners go home and fuck the prom Queen.
Quote of 2022.
Can this be Vital's new tagline?




It’s not the fucking bike. Losers make excuses. Winners go home and fuck the prom Queen.
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Bruce372 1/16/2022 8:17pm
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I am sure I saw one top rider and I think it was tomac saying he preferred a cable clutch? And this was supposed to help his starts????

Really can't remember.?
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MyBobbym 1/16/2022 9:53pm
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Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
quadzrulebro wrote:
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
Tire selection...and psi specs.
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MyBobbym 1/16/2022 10:16pm
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Racerman967 wrote:
Eli has a hydro clutch
A water clutch? what will they think of next?
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DrinkMoreWater 1/16/2022 11:07pm
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I hate blaming the bike but man the Yamaha 450SX is something I've had my eye on.

Webb went from having one of the best 250f careers in recent times and struggled on the 450.

DF Was on another level on the 250 in SX yet looks like a shadow on the 450, in MX he did very well but SX no go.


I understand the competition is different but it can't be that much different for guys like Ferrandis, Ferrandis on the 250 he would just pick apart the field regardless of the start same with Webb, It's obvious Ferrandis just cannot ride to his ability on the 450 on a SX track.

His debut on the 450 I wasn't certain if he was just getting used to the competition/the bike, I knew he would be a chance at the MX title given how amazing he was on the 250, after he won in convincing fashion in outdoors people on here were like oh hes got the bike dialed now he's going to be a huge threat in SX and here we are it's more of the same shit as last year.

The truth is MX allows the rider to ride the bike, in SX you need much more from your bike and so far I see no evidence that the Yamaha is suited for SX, so far the eye test shows DF is fighting the bike not riding it.

Rider ability I have in this order.

Tomac
Ferrandis
Sexton
AC.
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LEAVE BLUCRU ALONE


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snape99 1/16/2022 11:17pm
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Ferrandis and tomac will dominate outdoors , but jeez they look bad in supercross
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DrinkMoreWater 1/16/2022 11:20pm
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snape99 wrote:
Ferrandis and tomac will dominate outdoors , but jeez they look bad in supercross
Absolutely they will.
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Motofinne 1/16/2022 11:36pm
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He's been around 15th in the start in both of the mains. That is a massive problem no matter what bike he would be on. It's obvious that he's struggling with starts on the metal starting gate, his starts were decent outdoors. Ferrandis and the team has to figure this out, but i doubt they will because this has been going on ever since his 250 days on the metal starting gate. I can't see how they're going to solve it.

With that said, how many years does he have left on his current deal? One or two years? I could see him on a KTM when Marvin retires.

Also keep in mind that this is probably the last year of the current Yamaha 450 generation. They should have a new bike for 2023.

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mwilcox349 1/17/2022 1:03am
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snape99 wrote:
Ferrandis and tomac will dominate outdoors , but jeez they look bad in supercross
So bad being 1-2 fastest on the track during qualifing and in the main. Just terrible 🤯🤯
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Naoooch 1/17/2022 3:06am
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Ranman68 wrote:
The ratio of thumbs up vs thumbs down on what you've posted is less than ideal.
You know you are doing something wrong when you are going where the mass is going.
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Naoooch 1/17/2022 3:07am
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DrinkMoreWater wrote:
I hate blaming the bike but man the Yamaha 450SX is something I've had my eye on. Webb went from having one of the best 250f...
I hate blaming the bike but man the Yamaha 450SX is something I've had my eye on.

Webb went from having one of the best 250f careers in recent times and struggled on the 450.

DF Was on another level on the 250 in SX yet looks like a shadow on the 450, in MX he did very well but SX no go.


I understand the competition is different but it can't be that much different for guys like Ferrandis, Ferrandis on the 250 he would just pick apart the field regardless of the start same with Webb, It's obvious Ferrandis just cannot ride to his ability on the 450 on a SX track.

His debut on the 450 I wasn't certain if he was just getting used to the competition/the bike, I knew he would be a chance at the MX title given how amazing he was on the 250, after he won in convincing fashion in outdoors people on here were like oh hes got the bike dialed now he's going to be a huge threat in SX and here we are it's more of the same shit as last year.

The truth is MX allows the rider to ride the bike, in SX you need much more from your bike and so far I see no evidence that the Yamaha is suited for SX, so far the eye test shows DF is fighting the bike not riding it.

Rider ability I have in this order.

Tomac
Ferrandis
Sexton
AC.
Thanks. One intelligible and argumented post.
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brimx153 1/17/2022 4:58am
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Anyone remember the device Tomac had on the KX when he won the SX championship . It was like a damper behind the clutch arm . Which looked like u could set it up on fast or slow the damper closes . So basically you could drop the clutch and the damper let's the clutch out for the start not your hand . It disappeared when kawi went hydro as it can only work with a cable . Wonder would they try it on the Yamaha or did it get banned? @ML ?
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davistld01 1/17/2022 5:00am
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Yeah…Dylan looked like shit on that “Blupig” all throughout the outdoor series last year.
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Trav138 1/17/2022 7:11am
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Is this a possible record of the % of thumbs down to thumbs up? At least their is something coming out of this dumb ass thread
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RalphS 1/17/2022 7:36am
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Naoooch wrote:
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one. DF was great with start all summer. DF reaction was on point yesterday...
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one.

DF was great with start all summer.
DF reaction was on point yesterday.
DF said on a French website than his bike is bad.

Its like 90% here just read the title and not the thread. Tipical American
Chris_Buehler wrote:
Last year's podium doesn't count as much as this year's? Got it. Starting on dirt in mx is the same as starting on a grate for...
Last year's podium doesn't count as much as this year's? Got it. Starting on dirt in mx is the same as starting on a grate for sx? Got it. You're def trolling, I'm convinced now
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you definitily a redneck american who cant read. Last year after everyone is out, a podium is less valueable yes. https://www.lebigusa.com/videos/dylan-ferrandis-je-fais-avec-ce-que-jai.html/
you definitily a redneck american who cant read.
Last year after everyone is out, a podium is less valueable yes.

https://www.lebigusa.com/videos/dylan-ferrandis-je-fais-avec-ce-que-jai…
Website requires subscription to read the article, can you paste here some extracts? I'm curious to see what he really said. Francais n'est pas dificile a comprendre.
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Boomslang 1/17/2022 8:20am
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
My bru, you need to wear your face mask to catch the crud oozing out your pie hole.

DF will get his 450 fine tuned and will bounce back soon.

I'll stick my old turtle neck out and say he podiums next week.

Unless he has a secret injury we dont know about. He may be french but he aint no snail.

I forget what went down in last years 450 outdoors, please remind me.

Lastly Naooooch, please consider this friendly banter. I'm not here to make enemies..you can rib me all you like. This is a happy place for friendly ribbing.

Now ML, whats going on with your specialists working on the server....i believe them blondes are all working topless and in thongs....no wonder you guys are taking it easy.
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Boomslang 1/17/2022 8:23am
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Gordon Liddy wrote:
Ferrandis needs to hire Mike Alessi and practice starts with him all week.
I think they need to detune the output a tad for the start. Worth a try right.
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TeamGreen 1/17/2022 9:14am
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snape99 wrote:
Ferrandis and tomac will dominate outdoors , but jeez they look bad in supercross
Fast Qualifiers
Eli smoked his heat
They moved up fairly well in the Main: Eli 4th and Dylan 6th (They were 8th and 13th on L1)

I'm not seeing any "huge Blu problem". Then again, I expect that both of them will have a "W" duriing SX; so, I'm probably not in the majority of folks in this "Blu Pig" thread.
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tek14 1/17/2022 9:23am
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DF will replace KR at HRC next year.
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