Get DF off this blupig

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Edited Date/Time 3/21/2022 12:43pm
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
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1/16/2022 5:45am
It’s not the bikes fault.
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1/16/2022 5:46am
You need a small reminder of the promotocross champion of 2021?
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1/16/2022 5:52am
Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
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Rutgerpol wrote:
You need a small reminder of the promotocross champion of 2021?
Oh. Supercross is motocross then? OK thank you. Motogp champ is a yamaha also. You know your shit.
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1/16/2022 6:13am
Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
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1/16/2022 6:21am
Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that the bike might have something to do with the fact that you never see blu pigs holeshot races? I know they’re fast, but it takes more than horsepower.
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Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that...
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that the bike might have something to do with the fact that you never see blu pigs holeshot races? I know they’re fast, but it takes more than horsepower.
Yes, it takes a good starter. And Ferrandis and Tomac are historically shitty starters. Ferrandis looked like he was on fire last night, he just can't work through the pack like he can outdoors.
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1/16/2022 6:38am
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that...
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that the bike might have something to do with the fact that you never see blu pigs holeshot races? I know they’re fast, but it takes more than horsepower.
If DF starts too 4 last night, we’re having a completely different discussion this morning. And that discussion would be about how much better the bikes are with Star running the program and DF has a shot at the SX title.

This thread isn’t going to age well for you. I’m going to be sure to bring it back up every time DF (or Eli) kicks ass.

DF started in 14th and worked his way up to 6th. He and Eli had the fastest qualifying lap times. The speed is there. They just aren’t getting good starts, of which a 15-20 position rider on a stock motor YZ450 with a worse fare pick is getting better starts on.

It’s not the fucking bike. Losers make excuses. Winners go home and fuck the prom Queen.
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1/16/2022 6:41am
Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
dylan move forward, so did tomac.

both just suck at starts and no other bike will change that
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1/16/2022 6:51am
What a moroon!
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1/16/2022 6:54am
Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
Hrzk75 wrote:
dylan move forward, so did tomac.

both just suck at starts and no other bike will change that
Did Dylan suck this bad at starts on his 250? I honestly can’t remember.
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1/16/2022 7:10am
He needs to learn to start, because whatever he is doing, is wrong.

its like he is looking at the wrong bit of the gate , every time.
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1/16/2022 7:12am
Did Dylan suck this bad at starts on his 250? I honestly can’t remember.
Yes.
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Did Dylan suck this bad at starts on his 250? I honestly can’t remember.
Yes, but when you only have half the riders in the race, 15 laps is enough to come through , 20 isnt against a full 450 field
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1/16/2022 7:35am
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
It’s the rider…dude needs to get a start.
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1/16/2022 7:45am
philG wrote:
He needs to learn to start, because whatever he is doing, is wrong. its like he is looking at the wrong bit of the gate...
He needs to learn to start, because whatever he is doing, is wrong.

its like he is looking at the wrong bit of the gate , every time.
Picking his gate to be between Webb and Roczen didn't help
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1/16/2022 7:46am
Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the main. Tomac and DF moved forward. If either of them could learn how to consistently start well we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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1/16/2022 7:52am
Spot the 4 Yamahas in yesterday's main event start. Factory bikes with world class riders being outdragged by Joan Cros on his Kawi. I don't think it's the bike's fault but damn Dylan has been pretty much last midway down the straight for 2 weeks in a row. Eli a bit better but barely...

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1/16/2022 7:54am
crusty_xx wrote:
Spot the 4 Yamahas in yesterday's main event start. Factory bikes with world class riders being outdragged by Joan Cros on his Kawi. I don't think...
Spot the 4 Yamahas in yesterday's main event start. Factory bikes with world class riders being outdragged by Joan Cros on his Kawi. I don't think it's the bike's fault but damn Dylan has been pretty much last midway down the straight for 2 weeks in a row. Eli a bit better but barely...

They have Larocco syndrome. No matter what bike he was on he was that way too .
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1/16/2022 8:11am
Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the...
Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the main. Tomac and DF moved forward. If either of them could learn how to consistently start well we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Yep, and add to that last week when AP7 was non-existent on the new ride at KTM - and Webb was completely irrelevant last night. All the bikes are good bikes. It comes down to the rider and especially this year who can get a start.
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1/16/2022 8:12am
You know that Tomac and Dylan qualified 1st and 2nd, right?

It's not the bike. He desperately needs a start. That's all! He probably made the most passes out of all the riders.
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1/16/2022 8:19am
Talisker wrote:
It’s not the bikes fault.
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
This right here. As Mav said in the race thread, DF needs to burn up a stack of clutch plates this week and work on starts.

Is it just me or do the Yamaha guys not look as good when the track gets rough? Sure, they moved forward in the main, But, they seemed to lack the aggression they showed in practice. Looked to me like they were struggling mid-corner when things got rutty.
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Nairb#70 wrote:
What a moroon!
A moroon five even.
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Naoooch
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1/16/2022 8:56am
Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the...
Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the main. Tomac and DF moved forward. If either of them could learn how to consistently start well we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
TbonesPop wrote:
Yep, and add to that last week when AP7 was non-existent on the new ride at KTM - and Webb was completely irrelevant last night. All...
Yep, and add to that last week when AP7 was non-existent on the new ride at KTM - and Webb was completely irrelevant last night. All the bikes are good bikes. It comes down to the rider and especially this year who can get a start.
I see you ride a yamaha ahaha. Dont be bum hurted. At their level the bike is important.
Webb is a champion because of KTM. He is obese this year and still in front of the pack.

AP7 on in 2nd ride on a KTM was in race for the win. Same with bambam. And malcolm have way more speed and ease in this 2 race than all year last year.

Everyone here must be blind.

Blablabla Dylan need a start...

Yes and the yamaha cant give him a start. Thats what I said in my first post.

Yesterday he had a good reaction time. But was nowhere at the end of the start. Thanks for the screenshot of the start.

PLUS I just saw a video itw of dylan on LebigUsa.com where he explains than "he is doing everything he can with what he have" And his bike lacking traction in the straigth.

Eat that all yamaha fanboy.
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1/16/2022 8:57am
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that...
When he takes Marvin’s place next year, I can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. So is it out of the realm of possibility that the bike might have something to do with the fact that you never see blu pigs holeshot races? I know they’re fast, but it takes more than horsepower.
TbonesPop wrote:
If DF starts too 4 last night, we’re having a completely different discussion this morning. And that discussion would be about how much better the bikes...
If DF starts too 4 last night, we’re having a completely different discussion this morning. And that discussion would be about how much better the bikes are with Star running the program and DF has a shot at the SX title.

This thread isn’t going to age well for you. I’m going to be sure to bring it back up every time DF (or Eli) kicks ass.

DF started in 14th and worked his way up to 6th. He and Eli had the fastest qualifying lap times. The speed is there. They just aren’t getting good starts, of which a 15-20 position rider on a stock motor YZ450 with a worse fare pick is getting better starts on.

It’s not the fucking bike. Losers make excuses. Winners go home and fuck the prom Queen.
I thought this was going to be 100% trolling when I clicked on this. Unbelievable people are still trying to blame the bike
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1/16/2022 8:58am
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
BobPA wrote:
This right here. As Mav said in the race thread, DF needs to burn up a stack of clutch plates this week and work on starts...
This right here. As Mav said in the race thread, DF needs to burn up a stack of clutch plates this week and work on starts.

Is it just me or do the Yamaha guys not look as good when the track gets rough? Sure, they moved forward in the main, But, they seemed to lack the aggression they showed in practice. Looked to me like they were struggling mid-corner when things got rutty.
I thought tomac had a some pretty quick laptimes towar middle/end of race
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1/16/2022 9:04am
The op has to be trolling - I hope.
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1/16/2022 9:06am
Op, what part of France are you from?
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1/16/2022 9:12am
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding...
Then what is it? The program? The OP is 100% correct with regard to the results of riders exiting the reverse engined Yamaha 450 and finding Supercross success on other brands.
TbonesPop wrote:
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field...
It’s his fucking starts. The guy can’t start mid pack or worse in SX and expect to come through the pack and win in this field of riders. Hell, Chiz is on a stock motor YZ450 and is smoking DF on starts, and Chiz has shitty gate picks. Both DF and ET had the 2 fastest qualifying laps, so the speed and everything is there. It’s 100% starts for DF.

It’s not he bike for fucks sake.
BobPA wrote:
This right here. As Mav said in the race thread, DF needs to burn up a stack of clutch plates this week and work on starts...
This right here. As Mav said in the race thread, DF needs to burn up a stack of clutch plates this week and work on starts.

Is it just me or do the Yamaha guys not look as good when the track gets rough? Sure, they moved forward in the main, But, they seemed to lack the aggression they showed in practice. Looked to me like they were struggling mid-corner when things got rutty.
All that combined with how many extremely fast racers they’re out there racing with. We’ve had more than a few discussions about how “stacked” the field is. Many of us can list 6, 7, 8 …heck…maybe 9 of 10 riders that have “podium speed” in this field where only 22 riders line up for the main.

Yup, this is a very competitive field of riders & you have 2 of the absolutely fastest riders in the field on what a few have called “no good Yamaha” qualifying 1st & 2nd…looking fast as hell in the whoops…yet…
The bike sucks?

Uh, no. Both those riders need to figure out their starts.

Period

If ya wanna ask if the bike has anything to do with the starts? I’d start wondering about Yamaha’s launch control/technology versus some of the other bikes/teams. For example: the Hondas seem to launch brilliantly every damn time. The Kawasakis, too.
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1/16/2022 9:17am
Its always the bike. Should just put the bikes out there without riders and see what happens??????
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