TLD RED BULL GASGAS To Run Method Race Wheels

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1/4/2022 2:50pm
freeh wrote:
Good catch, unless they are trying to line up all of the logos on the wheel and tire for the photo shoot.
Buckland wrote:
I'm not a factory wrench (or a wrench at all), what does the yellow dot mean?
aeffertz wrote:
It marks the lightest point on the tire, so the idea is you should line that part of the tire up with the heaviest part of...
It marks the lightest point on the tire, so the idea is you should line that part of the tire up with the heaviest part of the wheel (valve stem or rim lock) for it to be the most balanced. Not sure how much it matters in moto since we don't use wheel weights to balance wheels but every little detail couldn't hurt, I suppose.
I don’t think it make an iota of difference in a true off-road setting, the difference in weight would be comparable to a lump of dirt stuck to the rim which regularly happens.
I think it’s more for dual sports etc who do a lot of high speed riding on smooth asphalt/gravel.
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Buckland wrote:
I'm not a factory wrench (or a wrench at all), what does the yellow dot mean?
aeffertz wrote:
It marks the lightest point on the tire, so the idea is you should line that part of the tire up with the heaviest part of...
It marks the lightest point on the tire, so the idea is you should line that part of the tire up with the heaviest part of the wheel (valve stem or rim lock) for it to be the most balanced. Not sure how much it matters in moto since we don't use wheel weights to balance wheels but every little detail couldn't hurt, I suppose.
luke11 wrote:
I don’t think it make an iota of difference in a true off-road setting, the difference in weight would be comparable to a lump of dirt...
I don’t think it make an iota of difference in a true off-road setting, the difference in weight would be comparable to a lump of dirt stuck to the rim which regularly happens.
I think it’s more for dual sports etc who do a lot of high speed riding on smooth asphalt/gravel.
I agree, just explaining what the mark is for. I’ve never heard of people following it in moto.
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1/4/2022 3:26pm
Not a fan of the graphics, they will be shredded or just covered with dirt in no time esp outdoors.

LOVE the red rim, tho agree the rims should match the red hubs at least.
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Not a fan of the graphics, they will be shredded or just covered with dirt in no time esp outdoors. LOVE the red rim, tho agree...
Not a fan of the graphics, they will be shredded or just covered with dirt in no time esp outdoors.

LOVE the red rim, tho agree the rims should match the red hubs at least.
You couldn’t miss them on Deegan’s bike at LL….and that’s the point, you’re going to notice the logo’s on the wheels way before you notice the sticker on the fender….it’s actually pretty genius.
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aeffertz wrote:
It marks the lightest point on the tire, so the idea is you should line that part of the tire up with the heaviest part of...
It marks the lightest point on the tire, so the idea is you should line that part of the tire up with the heaviest part of the wheel (valve stem or rim lock) for it to be the most balanced. Not sure how much it matters in moto since we don't use wheel weights to balance wheels but every little detail couldn't hurt, I suppose.
Interesting, thank you! My first thought was tire compound, but that didn't make sense in this context.
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It could look cool if the red rim would actually match the true red hubs, but they don't. That looks horrible.
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GASGAS is fun
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I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were they thinking'
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OT wrote:
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were...
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were they thinking'
Not before people at the track start having rim decals for a couple years
1/5/2022 7:26am Edited Date/Time 1/5/2022 7:26am
OT wrote:
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were...
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were they thinking'
The exact same thing was frequently said in the early 00's when the random black rim started showing up on race bikes.

TImes change, enjoy the race while it lasts
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OT wrote:
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were...
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were they thinking'
It’s called marketing, seems to be working so far…
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1/5/2022 7:49am Edited Date/Time 1/5/2022 7:51am
scootch wrote:
Seems like an oversite not to color match them to GasGas red.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
The color is Rocket Red and Troy Lee is the one who picked it.

The GasGas red would've been a better look, but nonetheless still cool.
In my opinion Troy missed the boat then. I remember back in the day when Penske's IndyCar team had Marlboro sponsorship and the cars were darn near fluorescent red in person but looked the proper Marlboro red on television.
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These kind of remind me of the 2 tone rims some of the teams ran back in the day. I remember seeing half silver and half blue rims. I've seen half silver and half red.

Anyone remember which teams ran those? Early Star Yamaha days perhaps? Butler Brother's Racing when they were on Honda's? Maybe it was in arenacross?
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Mav I think you are thinking of Alpina rims. They were two tone, and had the nipples in the hub instead of the rim. [img]https://cdn-0.motocrossactionmag.com/Uploads/Media/News/13AlpinaWheels.jpg[/img] https://motocrossactionmag.com/inside-the-italian-motorcycle-show-part-two/
Mav I think you are thinking of Alpina rims. They were two tone, and had the nipples in the hub instead of the rim.



https://motocrossactionmag.com/inside-the-italian-motorcycle-show-part-…
The trend never took off in MX/SX.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
These kind of remind me of the 2 tone rims some of the teams ran back in the day. I remember seeing half silver and half...
These kind of remind me of the 2 tone rims some of the teams ran back in the day. I remember seeing half silver and half blue rims. I've seen half silver and half red.

Anyone remember which teams ran those? Early Star Yamaha days perhaps? Butler Brother's Racing when they were on Honda's? Maybe it was in arenacross?
I think Butler Bros did when they ran the tubeless Michelin tire (I remember talking to JT$ about it once).

Star did one year as well, when they were Lucas Oil Yamaha. I have a dead one somewhere in my shop...
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Mav I think you are thinking of Alpina rims. They were two tone, and had the nipples in the hub instead of the rim. [img]https://cdn-0.motocrossactionmag.com/Uploads/Media/News/13AlpinaWheels.jpg[/img] https://motocrossactionmag.com/inside-the-italian-motorcycle-show-part-two/
Mav I think you are thinking of Alpina rims. They were two tone, and had the nipples in the hub instead of the rim.



https://motocrossactionmag.com/inside-the-italian-motorcycle-show-part-…
-MAVERICK- wrote:
The trend never took off in MX/SX. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/01/05/526631/s1200_13415293615_736cbfe578_b.jpg[/img]
The trend never took off in MX/SX.

Those were cool. They still in business??

I had a friend who was a very fast A rider that got a few sets sent to him
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Mav I think you are thinking of Alpina rims. They were two tone, and had the nipples in the hub instead of the rim. [img]https://cdn-0.motocrossactionmag.com/Uploads/Media/News/13AlpinaWheels.jpg[/img] https://motocrossactionmag.com/inside-the-italian-motorcycle-show-part-two/
Mav I think you are thinking of Alpina rims. They were two tone, and had the nipples in the hub instead of the rim.



https://motocrossactionmag.com/inside-the-italian-motorcycle-show-part-…
-MAVERICK- wrote:
The trend never took off in MX/SX. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/01/05/526631/s1200_13415293615_736cbfe578_b.jpg[/img]
The trend never took off in MX/SX.

Ryan625 wrote:
Those were cool. They still in business??

I had a friend who was a very fast A rider that got a few sets sent to him
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OT wrote:
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were...
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were they thinking'
DonM wrote:
It’s called marketing, seems to be working so far…
Yeah? How many sets they sold?
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OT wrote:
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were...
I feel like one day these wheels will dissapear or only appear on freestyle bikes and we'll look back at this and be like 'wtf were they thinking'
DonM wrote:
It’s called marketing, seems to be working so far…
OT wrote:
Yeah? How many sets they sold?
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels for trucks UTV’s and Jeeps…they are using this to draw attention to their brand in a unique way. They are an outside sponsor supporting SX/MX…It appears their marketing approach may be slightly over the head of the average MX fan….
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1/5/2022 9:24pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2022 9:25pm
Count me in the camp of not liking the look. It kinda takes away from the Gas Gas clean package. I know my opinion matters to all of you...lol
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DonM wrote:
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels...
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels for trucks UTV’s and Jeeps…they are using this to draw attention to their brand in a unique way. They are an outside sponsor supporting SX/MX…It appears their marketing approach may be slightly over the head of the average MX fan….
It’s just lame marketing to me when all they did was slap a graphic on a rim and call it ‘their’ wheel.

Then again I have a great disdain for this type of fluff marketing.
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DonM wrote:
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels...
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels for trucks UTV’s and Jeeps…they are using this to draw attention to their brand in a unique way. They are an outside sponsor supporting SX/MX…It appears their marketing approach may be slightly over the head of the average MX fan….
soggy wrote:
It’s just lame marketing to me when all they did was slap a graphic on a rim and call it ‘their’ wheel. Then again I have...
It’s just lame marketing to me when all they did was slap a graphic on a rim and call it ‘their’ wheel.

Then again I have a great disdain for this type of fluff marketing.
Did you know that they have been a longtime sponsor of the team? For those that had no idea then it has worked because people are asking who is Method? They are now aware of Method when they weren’t previously. Some will search the internet to see and click on their website and realize they sell wheels for trucks, UTV’s and Jeeps and they own one and possibly make a purchase.
By putting their logo on the rim makes it more visible for potential customers and more bang for their advertising dollars than the sticker that was on an already crowded fender.
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1/6/2022 7:47am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2022 7:54am
DonM wrote:
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels...
Zero…If you would have read my previous post you would know that Method is not in the business of selling wheels for motorcycles they sell wheels for trucks UTV’s and Jeeps…they are using this to draw attention to their brand in a unique way. They are an outside sponsor supporting SX/MX…It appears their marketing approach may be slightly over the head of the average MX fan….
soggy wrote:
It’s just lame marketing to me when all they did was slap a graphic on a rim and call it ‘their’ wheel. Then again I have...
It’s just lame marketing to me when all they did was slap a graphic on a rim and call it ‘their’ wheel.

Then again I have a great disdain for this type of fluff marketing.
You realize your reasoning applies to their automotive wheels and they are no different, they order their rims from a manufacture that puts the “METHOD” logo on it, they don’t make it themselves, just brand it. Along with a ton of other automotive wheel manufacturers…
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1/6/2022 8:04am
Rocket red was a prominent color on the Mclaren F1 cars back in the black and silver and Marlboro red and white paint scheme days. It is a really bright neon red that shows as just a orangish red on video and still pics. If they are using a true rocket red they will look vastly different in person. True rocket red is BRIGHT in person.
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1/6/2022 11:43am
Not a huge fan of the color or the graphics...but I'll bet that the graphics "disappear" by a few races into the season anyway. It's a "now" thing for marketing, me thinks.
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Quote:

"The yellow dot indicates the lightest part of the tyre sidewall. On a wheel or rim, the heaviest part is generally the valve stem. During fitting the yellow dot is aligned with the valve stem of the wheel. Having the dot and valve stem in alignment means technicians won't need to use as many balancing weights."

Should it be opposite the valve stem or the rim lock? I doubt it would matter on a slow rotating MX wheel. Then again, people who know better than me put the dot there.

I imagine it's not worth flaming a mechanic for though . . .
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It's not promoted as a Method rim. It's a Method wheel. They source the rim, hub, bearings, spokes and have Dubya assemble it.




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1/6/2022 1:04pm
felpro wrote:
It's not promoted as a Method rim. It's a Method wheel. They source the rim, hub, bearings, spokes and have Dubya assemble it. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/01/06/526906/s1200_Screen_Shot_2022_01_07_at_7.03.35_am.jpg[/img]
It's not promoted as a Method rim. It's a Method wheel. They source the rim, hub, bearings, spokes and have Dubya assemble it.




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I like that its a kinda outside the industry company spending some advertising money in SX/MX in a cool creative way. I'm not a fan of red rims normally ,but I like how they look. And it makes sense for a Wheel company to place their branding on the wheels. I'm sure it will drive a lot more traffic to their website than the under the front fender decal has. It is getting them some more exposure, how many years have they been a sponsor of the TLD team? Think of it like how Nike made boots for Ryan Dungey And James Stewart , They never intended on selling them , just a way to bring attention to their brand and who knows ,maybe it was what gave Method the idea. Maybe it could give some other outside industry companies ideas on creative ways to promote their company. I like that its something a little different and is giving Method Wheels some more attention and maybe will bring other wheel companies in or who knows. It should also stand out on the track much more than a similar sized decal on any other part of the bike. As printing tech evolves more I think we will see logos showing up in more cool and unique places. Like them or hate them, its hard to say that it is not a great way of promoting their brand.
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