Chad Reed on MXGP and Herlings

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12/1/2021 1:02pm
Reed must be laughing his ass off if he reads this forum .
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Reedy was always a favorite of mine, but he also shouldn't be considered one of the greatest. How many legit championships did he win? From my...
Reedy was always a favorite of mine, but he also shouldn't be considered one of the greatest. How many legit championships did he win? From my recollection, his top competitors were missing when his big bike championships happened. That being said, he did have to race two of the best that the sport has ever known and they owned him.
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Can only race who lines up against you.

Staying healthy is part of the sport.
Exactly !! And Herlings may get there, I hope he does !! But being out there and avoiding injury is a part of what makes Tony, Everts such bad asses. If you look at his race wins vs his titles in the 450 class it kinda makes him look worse.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
125/250 regional SX titles are the only ones that don't count for major titles. World Titles absolutely count as well as AMA national titles.
Zycki11 wrote:
Ohh so major titles are included huh? What about RC , MC, SE, and TC? 7 titles - 2. It’s not even close. Keep pushing hard...
Ohh so major titles are included huh? What about RC , MC, SE, and TC? 7 titles - 2. It’s not even close. Keep pushing hard but facts are facts and your feelings don’t matter
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You feel very strongly about this don't you ? You're taking it personally.
Yikes that was a poor attempt.
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12/1/2021 1:23pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Reed must be laughing his ass off if he reads this forum .
This is insanity
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12/1/2021 1:44pm
Got to love Reeds bullshit. At least he`s consistant with his bullshit. Guy hasn`t changed one bit, still sour grapes.
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12/1/2021 1:46pm Edited Date/Time 12/1/2021 1:50pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I disagree with him on not counting MX2 or lites titles as Chad calls them .
who got 2nd? one of our privateers just beat the lites world champ on a privateer bike..Do the factory and gear bonuses pay the same for 250 as well as 450 over there?
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12/1/2021 2:17pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I disagree with him on not counting MX2 or lites titles as Chad calls them .
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who got 2nd? one of our privateers just beat the lites world champ on a privateer bike..Do the factory and gear bonuses pay the same for...
who got 2nd? one of our privateers just beat the lites world champ on a privateer bike..Do the factory and gear bonuses pay the same for 250 as well as 450 over there?
You have legit points. Unfortunately, feelers get in the way
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12/1/2021 2:18pm
Strange thread, why all the emotion? Reed merely said he thinks Cairoli is better, that's not exactly going out on a limb. Many including me share the same opinion. If you ask 50 people you'd probably get 20 that say Cairoli, 20 that say Herlings, and 10 that say Everts, and they'd all have very legit reasons. In the history of Reed saying stupid shit this one doesn't even move the meter.

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12/1/2021 2:23pm
jjavaman wrote:
In his prime reed would be getting lapped by Herlings.
Park Boys wrote:
I would put money on Reed beating Herlings on a real SX track and he is about 40.
Always the same shit!!
But Herlings race SX??? Why always this stupid comparison between MXGP and Supercross??
Aren't they different disciplines?
Herlings just motocross and Chad is an expert supercross!
Another sad comparison!
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12/1/2021 2:42pm
Well I've learnt one thing from this thread, If a teenage pro crashes in a set of supercross whoops they should give up.
You know damn well that no other top pro has ever crashed in a set of whoops. Grinning
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Well I've learnt one thing from this thread, If a teenage pro crashes in a set of supercross whoops they should give up.
Well not that they should. Just that they might take the easy way out and stick to one discipline
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12/1/2021 3:21pm
i agree w/ chad

to stand out, you need to dominate the big bike classes. mx2 is a stepping stone class..you arent supposed to make a career out of it
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can say all you want about reed winning titles and the 2 main people not being in the series...
But he also raced how many champions over the years? he Battled Stew and RC4 for how many years? and Reed has how many SX wins..?

I dont think Reeds greatness goes from his championships. I think its the facts he has battled the past 7 champions and won against them all. had one of the biggest rivalry in our sport ever and than throw in his records, being from foreign country.

Reed really is the person you either loved or hated.


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12/1/2021 9:37pm
Even if you don’t agree with him , chad is one of the best interviews in the sport , always gives good answers and back ground. ,
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12/1/2021 9:55pm Edited Date/Time 12/1/2021 9:56pm
Ricky gave a lot more praise to Stewart than Reed did it feels similar to that.

I get that Lites doesn't matter especially when Chad barely raced them but they're a big deal to anyone who wins them I bet, Herlings for sure though should have moved up a bit earlier especially with his strength.

Herlings is the type of rider that shows you can do things differently on a bike and do amazing things like Stewart did, He's selling him a bit short here.
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12/1/2021 11:04pm
Bidirella wrote:
The 450 winning days of Reed where weak as fuck. You don’t hear Reedy about that.
Radical wrote:
I don't think so. Reed made Carmichael literally cry as he beat him something like 8 Supercrosses in a row.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
He literally cried ? Like you saw him crying ? People literally throw the word literally around way too much.
That's the word on the street.
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12/1/2021 11:38pm
Ricky gave a lot more praise to Stewart than Reed did it feels similar to that. I get that Lites doesn't matter especially when Chad barely...
Ricky gave a lot more praise to Stewart than Reed did it feels similar to that.

I get that Lites doesn't matter especially when Chad barely raced them but they're a big deal to anyone who wins them I bet, Herlings for sure though should have moved up a bit earlier especially with his strength.

Herlings is the type of rider that shows you can do things differently on a bike and do amazing things like Stewart did, He's selling him a bit short here.
Reed won his lites (125) title in Supercross in 2002 and looked disinterested even winning. It was just a stepping stone to get to the series he wanted to race in. He skipped 125s completely in Australia. In those days it was the 'kids' class and he just wanted to race against the big boys.

He still has an old school way of thinking in regards to the bike classes. But I think most riders view it that way to be honest. They would be stoked to win lites championships still. Its a huge achievement. Shit I would be happy if i wasn't dead last in a race.

But the dream as a kid from Reeds era was to dominate the 250/450 class like Jeremy McGrath did. Or for todays crop like Ricky Carmichael did probably. Dunno when I was a kid it was all MC.

At the end of the day though it's just Reed giving his honest opinion and his history kind of supports he always felt that way about the lites class. I think he just has a bias toward the class his hero dominated though.
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12/2/2021 12:06am Edited Date/Time 12/2/2021 12:11am
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5vjzRiJn9t/?utm_medium=share_sheet

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLJTvvIhknk/?utm_medium=copy_link


Here is are two videos of Herlings not crashing in whoops that doesnt contribute anything to the discussion of Reeds comments about Herlings in the sport of motocross.
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12/2/2021 12:08am Edited Date/Time 12/2/2021 12:10am
yak651 wrote:
Well not that they should. Just that they might take the easy way out and stick to one discipline
I don't think racing at the top level of this insane sport on either side of the pond is the easy way out.
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12/2/2021 12:09am
Freddy wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5vjzRiJn9t/?utm_medium=share_sheet https://www.instagram.com/p/BLJTvvIhknk/?utm_medium=copy_link Here is are two videos of Herlings not crashing in whoops that doesnt contribute anything to the discussion of Reeds comments about Herlings in...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5vjzRiJn9t/?utm_medium=share_sheet

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLJTvvIhknk/?utm_medium=copy_link


Here is are two videos of Herlings not crashing in whoops that doesnt contribute anything to the discussion of Reeds comments about Herlings in the sport of motocross.
He looks shit good job he gave up
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12/2/2021 1:21am
Not sure what this proves? Listen to the Lawrence brothers Whiskey Throttle podcast about how many times those boys crashed hard in the whoops whilst learning to ride them...and now look at them both. Some of you guys are deluded if you think Herlings couldn't learn SX if he wanted to.

And the Reed statement "teammates are nice to have in that scenario, because if you take the teammates away, Jeffrey doesn’t win, you know?" Without Febvre's team mate landing on Herlings then he wraps up the Championship 2 rounds early
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Here’s the thing everyone is missing. Chad doesn’t place himself as one of the greatest. He was a grinder and competed against the GOAT and the...
Here’s the thing everyone is missing. Chad doesn’t place himself as one of the greatest. He was a grinder and competed against the GOAT and the guy who changed the sport forever. Not only did he compete, but he beat them many times.

His opinion is spot on because why JH is one of the fastest, he doesn’t have titles. All who place him in the greatest category are doing so out of emotion and not facts. Until he racks up titles, he shouldn’t be mentioned. He still has time to accomplish this, but he isn’t in the position to be called one of the greatest yet. #prove me wrong
This ^ and Reed raced for 22 years at the highest level of the sport.

His durability makes him one of the greats in my opinion.

He also backed himself and took world championship level pay days.

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Not sure what this proves? Listen to the Lawrence brothers Whiskey Throttle podcast about how many times those boys crashed hard in the whoops whilst learning...
Not sure what this proves? Listen to the Lawrence brothers Whiskey Throttle podcast about how many times those boys crashed hard in the whoops whilst learning to ride them...and now look at them both. Some of you guys are deluded if you think Herlings couldn't learn SX if he wanted to.

And the Reed statement "teammates are nice to have in that scenario, because if you take the teammates away, Jeffrey doesn’t win, you know?" Without Febvre's team mate landing on Herlings then he wraps up the Championship 2 rounds early
Herling's side's fault that land on. Check with his mechanic.

Fail on the start device and it did not release which slowed him.
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12/2/2021 3:19am
Arofin wrote:
Definately nothing seen MXGP during season but the last rounds...calling JH lucky because his teammates pull over? The champ has had the most bad luck of...
Definately nothing seen MXGP during season but the last rounds...calling JH lucky because his teammates pull over? The champ has had the most bad luck of em all and still got champ...

And i will not say who is the greatest is the sport, but in a group of greatest in the sport? JH is in it before Reed....
Got landed on... Yea... He's fortunate Chad. Luck... Yup. Reeds bitterness does not look good on him.
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12/2/2021 6:23am
Ricky gave a lot more praise to Stewart than Reed did it feels similar to that. I get that Lites doesn't matter especially when Chad barely...
Ricky gave a lot more praise to Stewart than Reed did it feels similar to that.

I get that Lites doesn't matter especially when Chad barely raced them but they're a big deal to anyone who wins them I bet, Herlings for sure though should have moved up a bit earlier especially with his strength.

Herlings is the type of rider that shows you can do things differently on a bike and do amazing things like Stewart did, He's selling him a bit short here.
At the risk of sounding like a Chad apologist, he does seem to give a nod to Herlings' ability to go warp speed:

"But yeah, when you look at dominance, dominance in my opinion is controlling and understanding how to win world titles or championships. He has not yet achieved that in my opinion, but as far as a badass on a motorcycle and what he can do? One of the greatest at that."

I just don't think this is a crazy take; he outlines his personal criteria for what a dominate legendary rider should be, states that Herlings has not met that criteria yet, and notes that Herlings is an absolute badass on a bike. No one has to agree with it, but I think he outlays his perspective and reasoning fairly, which is a lot better than many of his past hot takes.
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12/2/2021 9:57am
People forget Reed got 2nd to Pichon his first year MXGP in the 250s. Say what you want, he has every right to comment on goats. I mean he literally went to war with the best rider of all time and damn near won 3 of the sx titles while doing it.

While I’m here….TC222>SE72
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12/2/2021 12:36pm
Arofin wrote:
Definately nothing seen MXGP during season but the last rounds...calling JH lucky because his teammates pull over? The champ has had the most bad luck of...
Definately nothing seen MXGP during season but the last rounds...calling JH lucky because his teammates pull over? The champ has had the most bad luck of em all and still got champ...

And i will not say who is the greatest is the sport, but in a group of greatest in the sport? JH is in it before Reed....
MyBobbym wrote:
Got landed on... Yea... He's fortunate Chad. Luck... Yup. Reeds bitterness does not look good on him.
Chad bitter about Jeffrey Herlings who he has never raced? Lets see, Chads net worth is considerably more, has a great resume himself, a wife and three kids. He smiled all weekend in Paris and he did it on his own with his girlfriend when Jeffrey got homesick and quit. Bitter? Maybe just you
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This is often brought up.

Despite the video and assumption he can't ride SX, DV (who was at the track) publicly said on Pulp he was as fast as Marv on the stopwatch.

If Herlings wanted it, he could make it happen! No doubt in my mind!
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12/2/2021 1:12pm
Arofin wrote:
Definately nothing seen MXGP during season but the last rounds...calling JH lucky because his teammates pull over? The champ has had the most bad luck of...
Definately nothing seen MXGP during season but the last rounds...calling JH lucky because his teammates pull over? The champ has had the most bad luck of em all and still got champ...

And i will not say who is the greatest is the sport, but in a group of greatest in the sport? JH is in it before Reed....
MyBobbym wrote:
Got landed on... Yea... He's fortunate Chad. Luck... Yup. Reeds bitterness does not look good on him.
Zycki11 wrote:
Chad bitter about Jeffrey Herlings who he has never raced? Lets see, Chads net worth is considerably more, has a great resume himself, a wife and...
Chad bitter about Jeffrey Herlings who he has never raced? Lets see, Chads net worth is considerably more, has a great resume himself, a wife and three kids. He smiled all weekend in Paris and he did it on his own with his girlfriend when Jeffrey got homesick and quit. Bitter? Maybe just you
Reed has raced MXGP also. His best 13 and 17 place results give him good perspective to talk about Herlings.
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12/2/2021 1:48pm
MyBobbym wrote:
Got landed on... Yea... He's fortunate Chad. Luck... Yup. Reeds bitterness does not look good on him.
Zycki11 wrote:
Chad bitter about Jeffrey Herlings who he has never raced? Lets see, Chads net worth is considerably more, has a great resume himself, a wife and...
Chad bitter about Jeffrey Herlings who he has never raced? Lets see, Chads net worth is considerably more, has a great resume himself, a wife and three kids. He smiled all weekend in Paris and he did it on his own with his girlfriend when Jeffrey got homesick and quit. Bitter? Maybe just you
tek14 wrote:
Reed has raced MXGP also. His best 13 and 17 place results give him good perspective to talk about Herlings.
Oh boy maybe do some research first? Or actually know the sport a bit more? Again, he has zero and I mean absolutely zero reason to be bitter.
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