Motorcycle Industry

lumpy790
Posts
11478
Joined
9/18/2007
Location
York, SC, USA
11/1/2021 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/1/2021 7:46pm
I stared as a MC tech in 1980 my senior year of high school on work study. Tried being Honda automotive tech for a year and a couple other jobs along the way but always came back to the MC Industry.

I Plan is to sell Moto Hose in the next 2 years and wife and I will full time RaVing across America and riding everywhere I can along the way.
6
11/2/2021 12:00am Edited Date/Time 11/2/2021 1:04am
Meister wrote:
If this stuff is your passion, don't turn it into a job. Sometimes working in an industry you call a passion, can be a quick way...
If this stuff is your passion, don't turn it into a job. Sometimes working in an industry you call a passion, can be a quick way to ruin the fun of it. This sport is full of people who want crap for free because they feel like they DeSeRvE it..

If I were to take that gamble, first company in the industry id try to work for is WPS..
I share similar sentiments. Motocross cross is my blood, raced for years but was not good enough to make A living off racing. My next move was to do a motorcycle mechanics trade. The combination of racing and understanding setup and knowing how to build engines and suspension was the key to getting into the industry.

Hylton Beattie rode for the same team as i did in South African He had worked his way up to landing a job with FMF. He ran the race team and race support team. He gave me a chance at FMF and through hard work and being fully committed I got the Stewart amateur gig.

I left the USA to pursue my next dream. In my heart i knew i wanted to be a helicopter pilot and saved every dolla i made which paid for my PPL(H) here is South Africe.

Sadly i was not smart enough to pass the Commercial exams required for the CPL(H) licence needed in order to fly for income.

Then people started crashing and dying and i had just started a family. Jobs in aviation are scarce here. Even as a certified Operations Manager and Safety Officer I could not find a good paying job....all taken.

So in 2007 i joined Caled Tennant and spent 13 yrs helping him through his MX career and ended up back in the USA with him.

Some doors opened whilst I was there but with immigration and their red tape I face a never ending battle.

All these yrs and I'm a rich man in memories but realistically broke. Few very people earn a good living in the MX industry. There are only a certain amount of good paying jobs available and those jobs, when they become available are snapped up by ex elite Pro riders.

A mechanic can be a glorious job but its long hours and the wage is minimal. I got bonuses from Big Bubba, James gave me brand new GT MTB as a gift when i left for Africa.

I did two yrs mechanical engineering after my motorcycle trade but the love of moto took me to the states.

I always question myself...where would I be now if i got my Degree?

At 51 yrs old and sitting here with no job. Having to sell shit for the next two months before I can get back to the states. Its also tough being away from my wife and two daughters...my anxiety levels are through the roof just thinking having to be away for an extended period.

My advice to you is to study and get a good qualification and a good job. Buy bikes for yourself and your family and enjoy the fun and freedom of riding.

Thats my story, maybe you do pull it off and earn the dream job.

Good luck to you going forward.
4
Broughton859
Posts
87
Joined
7/18/2017
Location
Philadelphia, PA, USA
11/2/2021 7:03am
I've been in the industry just over 8 years and I work for a big eCom and Store retailer (CoMoto i.e. RevZilla, Cycle Gear and J&P). I still think it's great and absolutely love it and have no plan to leave the industry. However, there is a big difference in working at a shop or a traveling sales rep compared to working for a big ecommerce company. Burn out is supper common in shops / sales reps.

I also studied finance and work in purchasing now. It's a lot less product focus than you think and more excel spreadsheets but at the end of the day the numbers in excel represent gear, parts, accessories, etc. so it's pretty cool. Plus there is some really cool perks to the job.

When I was in college I tried to get industry internships and it wasn't much of a thing unless you wanted to work for free. Instead I focused on sales and marketing internships outside the industry and used the experience to get me where I am today. The biggest thing I see is you either have to have a connection to get most jobs or you need to start at the bottom of the company and prove yourself to work your way up. It's possible to get a really good gig but most likely won't happen right out of college. You might have to work customer service or another type of role that's similar to that and after you prove yourself and meet the people in charge you can work your way up.

As far as keeping your hobby and career separated I disagree in my experience. My first job out of college I was paid well and signed a $10K signing bonus however, I started hating Sundays because I had to go to work the next day. I wasn't passionate about it and the money wasn't as big as a motivation factor that I thought it would be. Left that job joined the industry now I'm stoked. Keep your eyes out on Motorcycling Industry jobs, Malakye.com, Linkedin, and follow the brands and companies you're interested in on social. A lot of the smaller ones will post their opportunities there as well. Feel free to DM me in you want. Those last 5 semesters go quick
5
11/2/2021 8:41am
Lots of great advice on this thread. While I own Phoenix Handlebars, I have continued to help with the industry job board MotorcycleIndustryJobs.com to help the industry I love. In a sense, the two go together hand-in-hand.

I've been in the industry for well over twenty years now and have seen both sides of the coin. Burnout for some, happiness for others. Some need the bigger paycheck to be happy, others are just content talking about motorcycles for the rest of their life. It's always going to be different depending on your personality.

My name is Jason Gearld and I'm always happy to talk with anyone looking to get in the industry. What I do with MIJ is just for the love of the sport... I'm not a recruiter. I don't get paid to help land anyone a job. But the way I see it is that if I keep passionate people working for good companies, that passion will hopefully find its way to our customers. It's the same passion I give to my own company Phoenix Handlebars.

If anyone wants to rap, feel free to hit me up. I'm happy to talk on the phone. And keep an eye on motorcycleindustryjobs.com. Lots of great opportunities right now.
13

The Shop

11/2/2021 8:54am
Lots of great advice on this thread. While I own Phoenix Handlebars, I have continued to help with the industry job board MotorcycleIndustryJobs.com to help the...
Lots of great advice on this thread. While I own Phoenix Handlebars, I have continued to help with the industry job board MotorcycleIndustryJobs.com to help the industry I love. In a sense, the two go together hand-in-hand.

I've been in the industry for well over twenty years now and have seen both sides of the coin. Burnout for some, happiness for others. Some need the bigger paycheck to be happy, others are just content talking about motorcycles for the rest of their life. It's always going to be different depending on your personality.

My name is Jason Gearld and I'm always happy to talk with anyone looking to get in the industry. What I do with MIJ is just for the love of the sport... I'm not a recruiter. I don't get paid to help land anyone a job. But the way I see it is that if I keep passionate people working for good companies, that passion will hopefully find its way to our customers. It's the same passion I give to my own company Phoenix Handlebars.

If anyone wants to rap, feel free to hit me up. I'm happy to talk on the phone. And keep an eye on motorcycleindustryjobs.com. Lots of great opportunities right now.
PH....i need that thing people refer to as a Green Card......it's like a mythical thing...the Holy Grail....call it what ya will. I need one. Whistling
1
m21racing
Posts
649
Joined
7/19/2016
Location
Reno, NV, USA
11/2/2021 9:11am
Go to law school and become a motorcycle attorney. The industry needs those. There are probably some internships within the motorcycle industry for you with your chosen field. You could get on the business end and see a completely different side of the industry. I was always on mechanical side. Almost 20yrs in the industry so far. But, I have scaled things down to complement a full-time gig with benefits, while still tuning suspension, and playing with Harleys when I can. When ino longer work full-time, my partial retirement will be my suspension/harley work. Just my path, I'm very competitive, and still enjoy seeing my peeps do well with their machines.
2
11/2/2021 9:37am
The industry did alright in my opinion during covid, but now with supply issues and labor market fluctuations, I think this industry will suffer a bit. I have seen a number of people leave this industry over the past 4 months, had 2 mechanics quit yesterday to go work at amazon because they were offering almost $10/hr more.
Rideallday
Posts
7
Joined
11/2/2021
Location
Millerton Lake, CA, USA
11/2/2021 12:22pm
With your education, you should really look into the aerospace industry right now. It's booming big time, and you can make over 6 figures after a few years experience. You'll likely also be able to work from home, and go for moto rides at lunch time. I looked at the motorcycle industry and the bicycle industry when I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree, but they couldn't touch the aerospace industry with a 6ft pole in terms of high pay and low hours. I had every Friday off for like the first 4 years as a design engineer.
1
philG
Posts
11000
Joined
5/12/2012
Location
GB
11/2/2021 1:24pm
917 wrote:
I have been popping in and out of this forum since I was about 12 years old and now I am getting close to graduating college...
I have been popping in and out of this forum since I was about 12 years old and now I am getting close to graduating college and starting my life in the real world. My question is, what can I do to land a job in the motocross space?

I currently have five semesters left at the University of Utah and I am studying business, specifically Finance and Operations/Supply Chain Management. Does anyone have recommendations on what to study or where to find an applicable internship?

This is a shot in the dark, but I do not even know where to start. This sport is my passion and I would be happy being able to have a career in this rad industry.
The best advice i can give, is that you do something you are good at to earn enough $$ to allow you to enjoy the sport as a participant.

I have worked in F1 ,WRC, and Indy/ Nascar stuff here in the UK, and it always paid me enough $$$ to be able to race all over europe and the USA , raise a family.

I only really struggled for 2 years , and they were the 2 i spent working in a buddies dealership, working 6 days a week and trying to race on the 7th.

That was as a result of getting laid off in the early 90's , and it was just what i needed, and just what he needed, but the pay and hours sucked, and i lost the will to live , as far as bikes was concerned.

As for the dude who decided to do it later on in life (like my age now) , thats a great option, if you can afford to do it, after getting yourself in a position to do it .

MX as a sport , is underpaid and overworked, there may be a few decent spots to land, but by and large, the guys in it with the money are earning it somewhere else.

1
RMT
Posts
1269
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
USA, CA, USA
11/2/2021 1:37pm Edited Date/Time 11/2/2021 1:42pm
RMT wrote:
5 semesters left is almost graduating? Lol.
917 wrote:
Well in the grand scheme of things I only have two real opportunities to do a full blown internship and I would rather start looking for...
Well in the grand scheme of things I only have two real opportunities to do a full blown internship and I would rather start looking for opportunities now.

I guess I graduate in while, my apologies.
Don’t listen to the haters. There are plenty of us here that have been financially successful in the moto industry and continue to race in the...
Don’t listen to the haters. There are plenty of us here that have been financially successful in the moto industry and continue to race in the Vet classes. I earn a six figure income in the industry and love my job. I’ll be loading up my bike tonight to head out to race in the morning.
I guess the first question you need to ask yourself is what you want to do when you grow up, then start working toward that goal. I graduated with a MIS degree but quickly realized that wasn’t what I wanted to do. I’ve been in marketing and sales in the Powersports industry for 20 years now. No matter what you decide to do in your career, that degree that you’ll be holding soon will certainly help open doors for you, even in our industry.
Who was hating bro? I just laughed about him saying he is almost finished with college and is not even halfway. Many people change their mind several times on what they want to do in life while in the first couple years of college. He hasn't even really started on his major but just getting the core classes completed.

The rest is long so its really just intended for the OP.

All that said, here is my .02:

I've worked for a motorcycle manufacturer for over 20 years. Loved every second of it and most days don't really consider it working. I do not or would not work for the race team. I have almost every weekend off and many times just do other family stuff instead of riding as I can ride a lot during the week. I haven't owned a bike for years because I have use of pretty much anything my company makes. I also make six figures and have great benefits.

So, how did I get here. Long story longer, I went to college and got a degree in finance. My parents told me I would never make a living in motorcycles and to look elsewhere. I was going along just fine in life working on the 8th floor of a large bank downtown, suit and tie guy, that was me. Then one day at lunch I went to a local dealer down the street for something and overheard a conversation that the owner was having (very upset and talking loud) with the bank that owned his inventory. A light went off in my head, someone at a bank was dealing with my love and passion, motorcycles and doing it for a living. That wasn't much but better than looking through financial statements and UCC's of transportation companies (trucks and buses) all day. I looked into this company, Deutche Bank, or DFS as they were known at that time and sent in an application. Got a job with them and worked closely with the manufacturer whose dealers inventory we were financing. They (the motorcycle manufacturer) got to know me and realized that I was a motorcycle guy and spoke the language while also knowing business and the finance side of things. When a position came open, they came to me with a job offer in Field Sales. Free car, cell phone and gas card and hit the road. It was awesome. Work from home office, no suit and tie and got to drive around showing and telling people how great our bikes are. I've worked my way up since then but one thing you 100% have to be willing to do is move. When I got the job with Deutche Bank, I had to move to Atlanta. When I got the job with the motorcycle company, I had to move to North Carolina. And we have lived in 6 different places to get to where we are now.

So, if you really want to do it, then do it but you have to be willing to move around the country somewhat. The OEM I work for has internships and I have seen quite a few of those interns hired full time down the road. But, we are not located in Utah!
.
Good luck and hopefully you come back and update us on how things turn out in a few years. Hopefully you find your dream job, its out there no matter what others say.
3
philG
Posts
11000
Joined
5/12/2012
Location
GB
11/2/2021 1:51pm
RMT wrote:
Who was hating bro? I just laughed about him saying he is almost finished with college and is not even halfway. Many people change their mind...
Who was hating bro? I just laughed about him saying he is almost finished with college and is not even halfway. Many people change their mind several times on what they want to do in life while in the first couple years of college. He hasn't even really started on his major but just getting the core classes completed.

The rest is long so its really just intended for the OP.

All that said, here is my .02:

I've worked for a motorcycle manufacturer for over 20 years. Loved every second of it and most days don't really consider it working. I do not or would not work for the race team. I have almost every weekend off and many times just do other family stuff instead of riding as I can ride a lot during the week. I haven't owned a bike for years because I have use of pretty much anything my company makes. I also make six figures and have great benefits.

So, how did I get here. Long story longer, I went to college and got a degree in finance. My parents told me I would never make a living in motorcycles and to look elsewhere. I was going along just fine in life working on the 8th floor of a large bank downtown, suit and tie guy, that was me. Then one day at lunch I went to a local dealer down the street for something and overheard a conversation that the owner was having (very upset and talking loud) with the bank that owned his inventory. A light went off in my head, someone at a bank was dealing with my love and passion, motorcycles and doing it for a living. That wasn't much but better than looking through financial statements and UCC's of transportation companies (trucks and buses) all day. I looked into this company, Deutche Bank, or DFS as they were known at that time and sent in an application. Got a job with them and worked closely with the manufacturer whose dealers inventory we were financing. They (the motorcycle manufacturer) got to know me and realized that I was a motorcycle guy and spoke the language while also knowing business and the finance side of things. When a position came open, they came to me with a job offer in Field Sales. Free car, cell phone and gas card and hit the road. It was awesome. Work from home office, no suit and tie and got to drive around showing and telling people how great our bikes are. I've worked my way up since then but one thing you 100% have to be willing to do is move. When I got the job with Deutche Bank, I had to move to Atlanta. When I got the job with the motorcycle company, I had to move to North Carolina. And we have lived in 6 different places to get to where we are now.

So, if you really want to do it, then do it but you have to be willing to move around the country somewhat. The OEM I work for has internships and I have seen quite a few of those interns hired full time down the road. But, we are not located in Utah!
.
Good luck and hopefully you come back and update us on how things turn out in a few years. Hopefully you find your dream job, its out there no matter what others say.
Great post.

It shows you can be ' in the industry' with zero motorcycle related talents and earn a good living.

I was always factory based staff, working on the Quality side of manufacture, l was well enough organised and funded to never have to do stupid hours, had good guys , that cracked on and got it done, and still had a 10 minute drive to work and all my weekends free.

The race team guys lived and breathed it, 24/7 and its a hard existence on double what moto will pay, with all the travel and weekend working, even though the guys can get KTM's for buttons through the work scheme, they never see them to ride them .
1
YZF_88
Posts
56
Joined
10/28/2021
Location
Ogden, UT, USA
11/2/2021 7:28pm
I didn’t read all the advice given so far but I would encourage you to hit a couple internships between now and when you graduate. I’m in Utah as well and they typically pay very well and offer experience in different fields you might enjoy. If you plan right like I did, you can have a good job with enough time to play and not get burned out on something you like.

I have a mechanical engineering degree and work in manufacturing...but work within minutes of a local track here in Utah so it’s the best of both worlds. Just wishing I didn’t take a 16 year break from the sport. Glad to be back though.

Great to see you planning ahead like this though. The interns we see come through have done the same.
1
Bret
Posts
831
Joined
8/10/2008
Location
Mission Viejo, CA, USA
11/3/2021 4:43pm
I have been in the industry 15 years. I am not part of a race effort so I don't work weekends. I can perform the majority of my work with a laptop. I am definitely not an insider that gets to hang out with the racers but it is still great to be around like minded people in an industry that supports the sport I enjoy. I landed the job when I was 41 and wish I had started earlier. There are lots of ways to work in the industry without sacrificing your weekends and personal life. You may not be on the front lines on race day but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
2
Spooner
Posts
2448
Joined
1/8/2011
Location
Kansas City, MO, USA
11/3/2021 8:49pm
Bret wrote:
I have been in the industry 15 years. I am not part of a race effort so I don't work weekends. I can perform the majority...
I have been in the industry 15 years. I am not part of a race effort so I don't work weekends. I can perform the majority of my work with a laptop. I am definitely not an insider that gets to hang out with the racers but it is still great to be around like minded people in an industry that supports the sport I enjoy. I landed the job when I was 41 and wish I had started earlier. There are lots of ways to work in the industry without sacrificing your weekends and personal life. You may not be on the front lines on race day but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Same. I very very rarely work weekends and sleep in my own bed every night. I make a good living and get to ride a ton and work in the industry I love and am passionate about it. I have lots of buddies with similar deals at brands, other distributors, etc. There is a lot of opportunity to do what you love and not have to work in some soulless cube in an office building.
2
rallendude
Posts
2203
Joined
8/17/2006
Location
Adger, AL, USA
11/5/2021 7:58am
Lots of great advice on this thread. While I own Phoenix Handlebars, I have continued to help with the industry job board MotorcycleIndustryJobs.com to help the...
Lots of great advice on this thread. While I own Phoenix Handlebars, I have continued to help with the industry job board MotorcycleIndustryJobs.com to help the industry I love. In a sense, the two go together hand-in-hand.

I've been in the industry for well over twenty years now and have seen both sides of the coin. Burnout for some, happiness for others. Some need the bigger paycheck to be happy, others are just content talking about motorcycles for the rest of their life. It's always going to be different depending on your personality.

My name is Jason Gearld and I'm always happy to talk with anyone looking to get in the industry. What I do with MIJ is just for the love of the sport... I'm not a recruiter. I don't get paid to help land anyone a job. But the way I see it is that if I keep passionate people working for good companies, that passion will hopefully find its way to our customers. It's the same passion I give to my own company Phoenix Handlebars.

If anyone wants to rap, feel free to hit me up. I'm happy to talk on the phone. And keep an eye on motorcycleindustryjobs.com. Lots of great opportunities right now.
Boomslang wrote:
PH....i need that thing people refer to as a Green Card......it's like a mythical thing...the Holy Grail....call it what ya will. I need one. Whistling
Off topic but, just catch a ride to Mexico and walk on in. That's what all the cool kids are doing.

Post a reply to: Motorcycle Industry

The Latest