2022 CRF250R

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SilverSpurs 10/6/2021 11:24pm
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thekids wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513261/s1200_filter1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513262/s1200_filter2.jpg[/img] Do you have the same problem than 450 with the air filter?


Do you have the same problem than 450 with the air filter?
Terrible filter preparation. The lips should have a thick coating of grease on them.
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luke11 10/6/2021 11:55pm
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Terrible filter preparation. The lips should have a thick coating of grease on them.
DirtbikeTV guy would disagree with you there
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Sandusky26 10/7/2021 2:35am
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Terrible filter preparation. The lips should have a thick coating of grease on them.
Do guys still put grease on their filters? I oil the filter inside and out and oil the lip.
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wrc777 10/7/2021 3:41am
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Terrible filter preparation. The lips should have a thick coating of grease on them.
luke11 wrote:
DirtbikeTV guy would disagree with you there
Does he say to run the filter without oil too?
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Austin_Rankin 10/7/2021 4:31am
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This is what im talking about, on vital lil pups buy the bike that they think is gonna make all the differnce in the world and then try to tell the dawgs that the bike is so good, but in the real world the dawgs know its a dawg eat dog world.

Untill the lil pup can bark like a dawg, the pup remains at the puppy pound.


All i got to say on this one is sweet looking bikes guys.
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Sandusky26 10/7/2021 4:45am
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Austin_Rankin wrote:
This is what im talking about, on vital lil pups buy the bike that they think is gonna make all the differnce in the world and...
This is what im talking about, on vital lil pups buy the bike that they think is gonna make all the differnce in the world and then try to tell the dawgs that the bike is so good, but in the real world the dawgs know its a dawg eat dog world.

Untill the lil pup can bark like a dawg, the pup remains at the puppy pound.


All i got to say on this one is sweet looking bikes guys.
My Grandmas favorite color is red.

She would be pissed if she just read that non sense.

What happens when a dawg barks like a pup.

I’m allergic to pups.
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Camp332 10/7/2021 5:17am
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Terrible filter preparation. The lips should have a thick coating of grease on them.
Sandusky26 wrote:
Do guys still put grease on their filters? I oil the filter inside and out and oil the lip.
I thought that fad died in 2004?

Just oil extra heavy around the lip seems good enough.
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fourfourone 10/7/2021 6:05am
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Terrible filter preparation. The lips should have a thick coating of grease on them.
Sandusky26 wrote:
Do guys still put grease on their filters? I oil the filter inside and out and oil the lip.
Same here. Oil inside and out and I always put a little extra where the air filter mates with the air box.
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sandtrack315 10/7/2021 8:20am
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Grease on the lip is only required if the seal is not tight. The older guys here will remember when that was common. It seems like this Honda might not have the tightest seal, though? I don't know how much I trust that clip on mechanism.

This type of thing is why I alway use the TwinAir power flow kit. Sure, its about 200 bucks, but you know that thing is sealed really well. It has the same clip mechanism against the back, throttle side of the box, but it uses a screw to clamp it down. Also, you can get a nice screw-on wash cover, and I jam paper towels in the white intake thing to be extra certain no water gets in the motor during a wash.


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Baton Rouge 10/7/2021 8:53am
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sandtrack315 wrote:
Grease on the lip is only required if the seal is not tight. The older guys here will remember when that was common. It seems like...
Grease on the lip is only required if the seal is not tight. The older guys here will remember when that was common. It seems like this Honda might not have the tightest seal, though? I don't know how much I trust that clip on mechanism.

This type of thing is why I alway use the TwinAir power flow kit. Sure, its about 200 bucks, but you know that thing is sealed really well. It has the same clip mechanism against the back, throttle side of the box, but it uses a screw to clamp it down. Also, you can get a nice screw-on wash cover, and I jam paper towels in the white intake thing to be extra certain no water gets in the motor during a wash.


That's a proper oiled filter !

No need to grease the lip if you oil the filter properly !

Here what twinair says on their website:

"Soak filter in ORIGINAL Liquid Power Filter Oil, making sure to saturate the entire filter, coating the filter uniformly. Be sure to apply oil to the inside and outside of the filter.
Squeeze excess oil out of the filter so that a light coat of oil remains. Continue to massage the filter until the filter is evenly coated
Make sure you allow 24 hours for the filter oil to dry properly before you go riding."

So to the guy whom the crf ate dirt your filter wasn't oiled properly
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A_Wise1 10/7/2021 1:15pm
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I got to ride one yesterday, Eric Phipps's bike of WC to be specific, and was pleasantly surprised! The ergos are amazing like everyone already knows. The chassis felt pretty stable as it was a sandy-ish track with some high speed sections. The motor is very well-rounded for a 250F. I rode it in map 3, the "aggressive" map, and could use 3rd through corners. The low end is not as torquey as a YZ but still decent into a strong, meaty mid range and pulled quite far in the top. The bike is fun! It really is making me want to try a 250F again. I would like to see Keefer do a comparison between this and the YZ.
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Baton Rouge 10/7/2021 2:13pm
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A_Wise1 wrote:
I got to ride one yesterday, Eric Phipps's bike of WC to be specific, and was pleasantly surprised! The ergos are amazing like everyone already knows...
I got to ride one yesterday, Eric Phipps's bike of WC to be specific, and was pleasantly surprised! The ergos are amazing like everyone already knows. The chassis felt pretty stable as it was a sandy-ish track with some high speed sections. The motor is very well-rounded for a 250F. I rode it in map 3, the "aggressive" map, and could use 3rd through corners. The low end is not as torquey as a YZ but still decent into a strong, meaty mid range and pulled quite far in the top. The bike is fun! It really is making me want to try a 250F again. I would like to see Keefer do a comparison between this and the YZ.
Keefer said they will be a mini 2022 shootout at Racer x between the yami and the honda ! It will be out around the 20th of October
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Austin_Rankin 10/7/2021 2:34pm
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Sandusky26 wrote:
My Grandmas favorite color is red. She would be pissed if she just read that non sense. What happens when a dawg barks like a pup...
My Grandmas favorite color is red.

She would be pissed if she just read that non sense.

What happens when a dawg barks like a pup.

I’m allergic to pups.
True dat sister, i honestly like the bike, thats why im currently not riding one, cause then i wont like it? Kapeesh?
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txmx43 10/11/2021 5:56pm
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Anyone know the default clicker settings for the forks and shock? I just purchased a 2022 CRF250R. The bike is lighter and skinnier than my 2015 YZ250F. I only have about 20 laps on a mx track (Village Creek MX, Texas). The bike is fun to ride. I just need to get the suspension dailed in. I'm about 185 lbs without gear and the bike has no problem getting me around the track.
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Clicker settings are in the competition manual that should have came with the bike. I think fork is 12 comp/13 rebound. Shock 2-1/6 on high speed and 6 on low comp. I can’t remember on the rebound but I think 11. Keefer testing has a podcast with recommended settings and vital has a video. I think they cover stock settings in those video/podcasts too.
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SilverSpurs 10/11/2021 7:56pm
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luke11 wrote:
DirtbikeTV guy would disagree with you there
LOL. WHO TF is that and why is he giving bad advice?
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SilverSpurs 10/11/2021 8:02pm
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sandtrack315 wrote:
Grease on the lip is only required if the seal is not tight. The older guys here will remember when that was common. It seems like...
Grease on the lip is only required if the seal is not tight. The older guys here will remember when that was common. It seems like this Honda might not have the tightest seal, though? I don't know how much I trust that clip on mechanism.

This type of thing is why I alway use the TwinAir power flow kit. Sure, its about 200 bucks, but you know that thing is sealed really well. It has the same clip mechanism against the back, throttle side of the box, but it uses a screw to clamp it down. Also, you can get a nice screw-on wash cover, and I jam paper towels in the white intake thing to be extra certain no water gets in the motor during a wash.


Great logic son.

So the best way to find out you needed to grease a filter is to dust an engine?
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nskerb 10/11/2021 9:20pm
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Great logic son.

So the best way to find out you needed to grease a filter is to dust an engine?
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RCMXracing 10/11/2021 9:51pm
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Filter gate. Wtf is going on with you people?!

I’m nearing 50 hrs on a 21 Honduuur 450 using stock filter set up, no grease needed, no dirt getting by. 🤷🏾‍♂️
Just make sure the tabs at the back of the plastic ring are butted up against the back of the air box.
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Sandusky26 10/11/2021 9:58pm
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I’ve been using 30 wt on my filters since nam
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sandtrack315 10/13/2021 5:13am
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Great logic son.

So the best way to find out you needed to grease a filter is to dust an engine?
Or you could look at the design and decide you want a better set up. That’s what I did.
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sandtrack315 10/13/2021 5:14am
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How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer on compression. Shock is stock settings.
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wydopen 10/13/2021 5:16am
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thekids wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513261/s1200_filter1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513262/s1200_filter2.jpg[/img] Do you have the same problem than 450 with the air filter?


Do you have the same problem than 450 with the air filter?
Gotta grease the filter lip (on any bike)
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dfr136 10/13/2021 7:34am
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sandtrack315 wrote:
How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer...
How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer on compression. Shock is stock settings.
I went down one spring rate on forks and shock, shock I left the clickers stock and forks I went out one on comp and in two on rebound. Feels pretty good to me now
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FGR01 10/13/2021 8:48am
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Sandusky26 wrote:
I’ve been using 30 wt on my filters since nam
Me too. Also routed a hose from the airbox drain to just above the chain. Dripping filter serves as auto-oiler for the chain. Cool
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sandtrack315 10/13/2021 11:58am
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sandtrack315 wrote:
How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer...
How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer on compression. Shock is stock settings.
dfr136 wrote:
I went down one spring rate on forks and shock, shock I left the clickers stock and forks I went out one on comp and in...
I went down one spring rate on forks and shock, shock I left the clickers stock and forks I went out one on comp and in two on rebound. Feels pretty good to me now
Speed and weight? I am 165, slow B rider, and the springs seem perfect to me.
dfr136 10/13/2021 12:13pm
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sandtrack315 wrote:
Speed and weight? I am 165, slow B rider, and the springs seem perfect to me.
140lb B rider, stock springs were just a bit stiff for me its a lot more comfortable now
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fredmotokx 10/13/2021 1:48pm
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sandtrack315 wrote:
How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer...
How’s everyone doing with setup? I’m really happy with 105 sag, drop forks down 2mm (so 3mm instead of the stock 5mm) and 1 click softer on compression. Shock is stock settings.
Keefer baseline is real good for me at 155-160lbs C rider.
Fork:

C 14-15 out
R 11 out
Height: 3mm

Shock

LSC 6
HSC 2 1/4 out
R 12
Sag 105
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dfr136 10/13/2021 3:20pm
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I forgot I also took out 10cc of oil so I’m at 370. I was actually really surprised how good it felt after the springs and oil.
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