James Stewart lets Chad Reed by at Unadilla and '98 Unadilla w/ Jerry Bernardo

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Edited Date/Time 8/18/2021 6:02pm
For anyone interested, just uploaded 1998 Unadilla Motocross National 'Rev It Up' video. It was the year Reynard passed Carmichael in moto #1, and RC does get the overall. Reynard 2nd on the day.

Highlights the races and there is coverage of the 'Industry Race' that happened there that year.

Video Link:
https://youtu.be/XLt_EYoPMvA


The quality is low, but making sure YouTube is set to the highest resolution helps. Looks like 480 is the highest setting. Also, might be better off not maximizing the screen. The actual VHS footage is better, but the YouTube compression makes it more grainy. I also brightened the screen a notch and that helps.

I've heard that it looks way better on a phone than on a computer.
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and here's another good memory heading into Unadilla weekend: James Stewart's first year pro including a Unadilla highlight.

https://youtu.be/DRZLjwug5Dw
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That's one of my all time favorite clips when James done that. Talk about humble pie for Reed
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I always thought that James could have spun "Let Chad Bye" incident like this...

James... "I noticed that when I watch the races on TV they never show me when I'm way out front. I let Chad go by so the they would show more of me on TV and see how great my KX125 works."
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Yeah dont mind the fact that Reed rode with an injury that race..
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Tumic wrote:
Yeah dont mind the fact that Reed rode with an injury that race..
Don't mind the fact that Chad also talked a bunch of shit prior to that as well....He kinda had it coming.
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Tumic wrote:
Yeah dont mind the fact that Reed rode with an injury that race..
BobPA wrote:
Don't mind the fact that Chad also talked a bunch of shit prior to that as well....He kinda had it coming.
Chad wrote a check that day, but didn't have the funds to cover it.
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BobPA wrote:
Don't mind the fact that Chad also talked a bunch of shit prior to that as well....He kinda had it coming.
This. Reed talked a whole lot of shit about old JS then got played with. Was great when it happened.
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For anyone interested, just uploaded 1998 Unadilla Motocross National 'Rev It Up' video. It was the year Reynard passed Carmichael in moto #1, and RC does...
For anyone interested, just uploaded 1998 Unadilla Motocross National 'Rev It Up' video. It was the year Reynard passed Carmichael in moto #1, and RC does get the overall. Reynard 2nd on the day.

Highlights the races and there is coverage of the 'Industry Race' that happened there that year.

Video Link:
https://youtu.be/XLt_EYoPMvA


The quality is low, but making sure YouTube is set to the highest resolution helps. Looks like 480 is the highest setting. Also, might be better off not maximizing the screen. The actual VHS footage is better, but the YouTube compression makes it more grainy. I also brightened the screen a notch and that helps.

I've heard that it looks way better on a phone than on a computer.
When I was walking the track today Robbie was leaning against the fence right before you drop into gravity cavity, I pointed up the track and said isn’t that where you passed Ricky in 1998? I mentioned I saw the video on VitalMX
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That's one of my all time favorite clips when James done that. Talk about humble pie for Reed
Yep and Chad repaid James by beating him later in years.
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Tumic wrote:
Yeah dont mind the fact that Reed rode with an injury that race..
BobPA wrote:
Don't mind the fact that Chad also talked a bunch of shit prior to that as well....He kinda had it coming.
Did he become less injured because of that? No matter how much he talked, beating a guy who are riding with a injured shoulder (i think it was) is not the most impressive thing JS have done imo.
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BobPA wrote:
Don't mind the fact that Chad also talked a bunch of shit prior to that as well....He kinda had it coming.
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This. Reed talked a whole lot of shit about old JS then got played with. Was great when it happened.
By 'a whole heap of shit' do you mean "If I get a start I think I can run with him"?

How very dare he!
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8/14/2021 2:10am Edited Date/Time 8/14/2021 2:17am
Don’t get me wrong Stew was arguably the fastest man in moto ever, but this is one of those stories that have become nearly mythical, then you get all the facts behind it and suddenly it’s not so impressive, except as a psych move when your main competition is injured, that part was killer.
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8/14/2021 4:48am
Back then smack talk was part of the game..
Second place was first loser..
There was no “I’m trying my best” or “we just settled for second today, big picture”

The coolest story I remember is Chad leaving his second place trophy on the podium because he didn’t want it.

These guys gave it everything they had.
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Greatest era of SX right here!
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8/14/2021 5:47am
Tumic wrote:
Yeah dont mind the fact that Reed rode with an injury that race..
How does that explain all the other races James beat him on his 125? I'm not a big fan of excuses; Reed got an ass kicking that day by the greatest 125 rider ever.
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Greatest era of SX right here! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/08/14/505615/s1200_E2960DF5_A223_4F4F_97A2_9B73DD64C83F.jpg[/img]
Greatest era of SX right here!
The 80s respectfully disagrees.


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How does that explain all the other races James beat him on his 125? I'm not a big fan of excuses; Reed got an ass kicking...
How does that explain all the other races James beat him on his 125? I'm not a big fan of excuses; Reed got an ass kicking that day by the greatest 125 rider ever.
Because it was Unadilla we talked about, or did i mention all the other races?
8/15/2021 2:38pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2021 2:40pm
Tumic wrote:
Because it was Unadilla we talked about, or did i mention all the other races?
My point is that Stewart beat him in pretty much all the other races, so I don't think Reed's supposed inury had much to do with James beating him that day.


I have no doubt Stewart could have pulled that move on a perfectly healthy Reed with the same results.
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Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part?

Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to "hrrr hrrr" pass them back coz ur faster is not only lame on its own, but even lamer if the person is injured.

This is not worthy of a nut hugging ladies.
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8/15/2021 4:13pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2021 4:15pm
gerg wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part? Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to...
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part?

Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to "hrrr hrrr" pass them back coz ur faster is not only lame on its own, but even lamer if the person is injured.

This is not worthy of a nut hugging ladies.
David Bailey mentioned it in the broadcast. He said that Reed had been saying that if he got a start, he could beat Stewart. So Stewart put that to the test, and let Reed bye...

The rest is history.

What Stewart did in no way is lame in my opinion. He had the speed to do that to a perfectly healthy Reed.

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I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only time Reed ever rode the class as a pro, and only because he was forced to and was put on a bike he hated. Then he has to go up against the fastest guy on a 125 ever. Of course it was no match.

The point is that Stew pulled that move when he knew Reed had just busted his shoulder and couldn’t hold on. Watch Reed’s body language in the clip, it’s very clear. So Stewart took the safe opportunity to pull a killer psych move, and what a move it was. That era was all about psych, hence Reed talking it up.

However if it was so easy, why didn’t Stew pull that move before or ever again? Simple, too risky with a healthy opponent, but that one day it was a safe move and so began the legend. It’s a great story, but needs a little perspective.
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I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only...
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only time Reed ever rode the class as a pro, and only because he was forced to and was put on a bike he hated. Then he has to go up against the fastest guy on a 125 ever. Of course it was no match.

The point is that Stew pulled that move when he knew Reed had just busted his shoulder and couldn’t hold on. Watch Reed’s body language in the clip, it’s very clear. So Stewart took the safe opportunity to pull a killer psych move, and what a move it was. That era was all about psych, hence Reed talking it up.

However if it was so easy, why didn’t Stew pull that move before or ever again? Simple, too risky with a healthy opponent, but that one day it was a safe move and so began the legend. It’s a great story, but needs a little perspective.
Stewart waxed the class. I don't normally engage in these debates, but you're making excuses and assigning motives to Stewart without any real knowledge of his intentions. Stewart showed a speed that none of the others could match, so I'm pretty positive he could have pulled that maneuver at any time.

I mean the guy came from last to first in a race, and was beating 250s.
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CPR wrote:
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only...
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only time Reed ever rode the class as a pro, and only because he was forced to and was put on a bike he hated. Then he has to go up against the fastest guy on a 125 ever. Of course it was no match.

The point is that Stew pulled that move when he knew Reed had just busted his shoulder and couldn’t hold on. Watch Reed’s body language in the clip, it’s very clear. So Stewart took the safe opportunity to pull a killer psych move, and what a move it was. That era was all about psych, hence Reed talking it up.

However if it was so easy, why didn’t Stew pull that move before or ever again? Simple, too risky with a healthy opponent, but that one day it was a safe move and so began the legend. It’s a great story, but needs a little perspective.
exactly,
it makes me laugh every time... every one talks so much about it but doesn't know the full story,
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8/15/2021 5:33pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2021 5:36pm
CPR wrote:
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only...
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only time Reed ever rode the class as a pro, and only because he was forced to and was put on a bike he hated. Then he has to go up against the fastest guy on a 125 ever. Of course it was no match.

The point is that Stew pulled that move when he knew Reed had just busted his shoulder and couldn’t hold on. Watch Reed’s body language in the clip, it’s very clear. So Stewart took the safe opportunity to pull a killer psych move, and what a move it was. That era was all about psych, hence Reed talking it up.

However if it was so easy, why didn’t Stew pull that move before or ever again? Simple, too risky with a healthy opponent, but that one day it was a safe move and so began the legend. It’s a great story, but needs a little perspective.
exactly,
it makes me laugh every time... every one talks so much about it but doesn't know the full story,
The full story is that Stewart had 529 points to Reed's 391. Reed beat James in 4 motos out of 24, a couple of which James had bad luck. Stewart beat Reed in 20 motos out of 24. Yet, some of you think Stewart picked that one race to show Reed what was up because Reed was injured. Reed never beat Stewart in a full series when they both raced to the end. That's just a pure numbers game that cannot be denied.

It's not like Reed posed a real threat to James in the 125 class. He simply didn't. No one did.
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CPR wrote:
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only...
I don’t think anybody was trying to say Reed was even a match for Stewart in the 125/ 250 class. That was the one and only time Reed ever rode the class as a pro, and only because he was forced to and was put on a bike he hated. Then he has to go up against the fastest guy on a 125 ever. Of course it was no match.

The point is that Stew pulled that move when he knew Reed had just busted his shoulder and couldn’t hold on. Watch Reed’s body language in the clip, it’s very clear. So Stewart took the safe opportunity to pull a killer psych move, and what a move it was. That era was all about psych, hence Reed talking it up.

However if it was so easy, why didn’t Stew pull that move before or ever again? Simple, too risky with a healthy opponent, but that one day it was a safe move and so began the legend. It’s a great story, but needs a little perspective.
exactly,
it makes me laugh every time... every one talks so much about it but doesn't know the full story,
The full story is that Stewart had 529 points to Reed's 391. Reed beat James in 4 motos out of 24, a couple of which James...
The full story is that Stewart had 529 points to Reed's 391. Reed beat James in 4 motos out of 24, a couple of which James had bad luck. Stewart beat Reed in 20 motos out of 24. Yet, some of you think Stewart picked that one race to show Reed what was up because Reed was injured. Reed never beat Stewart in a full series when they both raced to the end. That's just a pure numbers game that cannot be denied.

It's not like Reed posed a real threat to James in the 125 class. He simply didn't. No one did.
and i don't disagree at all.
your right. Reed got waxed that whole series.

but the whole pull over was glorified when it was against an injured rider.. we all knew reed didnt have the speed. but to do the act against a rider who had a dislocated shoulder in practice. more or less bad timing hahah
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The full story is that Stewart had 529 points to Reed's 391. Reed beat James in 4 motos out of 24, a couple of which James...
The full story is that Stewart had 529 points to Reed's 391. Reed beat James in 4 motos out of 24, a couple of which James had bad luck. Stewart beat Reed in 20 motos out of 24. Yet, some of you think Stewart picked that one race to show Reed what was up because Reed was injured. Reed never beat Stewart in a full series when they both raced to the end. That's just a pure numbers game that cannot be denied.

It's not like Reed posed a real threat to James in the 125 class. He simply didn't. No one did.
So why did he feel the need to do it?

That's what made it 'lame' in my opinion
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gerg wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part? Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to...
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part?

Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to "hrrr hrrr" pass them back coz ur faster is not only lame on its own, but even lamer if the person is injured.

This is not worthy of a nut hugging ladies.
Did James or anybody else know Chad was injured besides you?...Laughing
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Reed finished 3rd overall in the day. Not bad for injured guy.
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gerg wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part? Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to...
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part?

Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to "hrrr hrrr" pass them back coz ur faster is not only lame on its own, but even lamer if the person is injured.

This is not worthy of a nut hugging ladies.
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Did James or anybody else know Chad was injured besides you?...Laughing
Nah just me.
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8/17/2021 10:40am Edited Date/Time 8/17/2021 10:45am
gerg wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part? Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to...
Can someone elaborate on the "talked a whole lot of shit" part?

Regardless if Reed talked shit or not (so what), letting someone by just to "hrrr hrrr" pass them back coz ur faster is not only lame on its own, but even lamer if the person is injured.

This is not worthy of a nut hugging ladies.
Needlessly defending Reed while having a name like "gerg" makes it a bit ironic to be calling Stewart fans nut huggers.

What James did was immature, a bit unprofessional, but also awesome and legendary, which is why it's still talked about today.
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