What is an “American Style” outdoor track?

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stremme12 6/27/2021 7:42am
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skeef wrote:
America is simply this; when the 450 class hits laroccos leap on the first lap. REDBUUDDD
Funny thing is Paulin was the first rider to hit the leap at MXON in practice. Coldenhoff was probably the most consistent hitting it all day long.
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Motodave15 wrote:
American Style = Glen Helen [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/25/499361/s1200_james_stewart_takes_the_trip_down_mount_st._helens.jpg[/img] Euro = valkenswaard [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/25/499362/s1200_volk.jpg[/img]
American Style = Glen Helen


Euro = valkenswaard



If you’re going to cherry pick, at least be more subtle about it. Unadilla

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Motodave15 6/27/2021 3:17pm
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zehn wrote:
If you’re going to cherry pick, at least be more subtle about it. Unadilla [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/27/499700/s1200_254951F5_E22C_408B_AC11_9302035EDE74.jpg[/img]
If you’re going to cherry pick, at least be more subtle about it. Unadilla

Thats rut o cross though.. there's a difference lol
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Suicidal_Tendencies 6/27/2021 5:25pm
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They are the tracks that European guys like Ferrandis and Roczen are currently winning on.
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Dirtydeeds 6/27/2021 5:34pm
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zehn wrote:
If you’re going to cherry pick, at least be more subtle about it. Unadilla [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/27/499700/s1200_254951F5_E22C_408B_AC11_9302035EDE74.jpg[/img]
If you’re going to cherry pick, at least be more subtle about it. Unadilla

Ha! Amateur hour. Already spotted my line. Easy money.



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SWOHIO GUY 6/27/2021 6:02pm
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Ruts on a sand track like Lommel or Valkensward= Rough. Ruts on any other type dirt= Rutcross. Stop with the double standards!
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JB500 wrote:
A 450 for The Leap you say? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/25/499347/s1200_8C72C97A_8AA6_4029_B399_1F93866A3332.jpg[/img] -Jeff Kardas photo
A 450 for The Leap you say?


-Jeff Kardas photo
Has a 125 jumped the leap since?
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Saddleback & Carlsbad. Dry, hardpack & dusty.
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skeef wrote:
America is simply this; when the 450 class hits laroccos leap on the first lap. REDBUUDDD
stremme12 wrote:
Funny thing is Paulin was the first rider to hit the leap at MXON in practice. Coldenhoff was probably the most consistent hitting it all day...
Funny thing is Paulin was the first rider to hit the leap at MXON in practice. Coldenhoff was probably the most consistent hitting it all day long.
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the FIM guy at the national intently studying the leap and figured this was added at his bequest. I thought nobody is going to jump the thing now. Then to add insult to my American ego that weekend "The Hoff" and Paulin hucked it anyway and none of our guys ever did it that I witnessed lol. But yeah we have a lot more big air time on our tracks for sure and we groom too much along with ripping and watering waaaay too much before the event. If they didn't prep our tracks like they do they could leave the dozers and tractors parked during the event but imho they create a situation where they almost have to go out and do touch up between motos.
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motomike137 6/28/2021 1:37pm
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JB500 wrote:
A 450 for The Leap you say? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/25/499347/s1200_8C72C97A_8AA6_4029_B399_1F93866A3332.jpg[/img] -Jeff Kardas photo
A 450 for The Leap you say?


-Jeff Kardas photo
RudyRayMo wrote:
Has a 125 jumped the leap since?
I don't think they had started adding all the sand to the track back when James was and some of the others were jumping it on 125's. I think they also had a little more run at it back in the day meaning the corner was a little further back.
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motomike137 wrote:
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the...
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the FIM guy at the national intently studying the leap and figured this was added at his bequest. I thought nobody is going to jump the thing now. Then to add insult to my American ego that weekend "The Hoff" and Paulin hucked it anyway and none of our guys ever did it that I witnessed lol. But yeah we have a lot more big air time on our tracks for sure and we groom too much along with ripping and watering waaaay too much before the event. If they didn't prep our tracks like they do they could leave the dozers and tractors parked during the event but imho they create a situation where they almost have to go out and do touch up between motos.
I thought Eli ripped it few times during the races.
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motomike137 wrote:
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the...
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the FIM guy at the national intently studying the leap and figured this was added at his bequest. I thought nobody is going to jump the thing now. Then to add insult to my American ego that weekend "The Hoff" and Paulin hucked it anyway and none of our guys ever did it that I witnessed lol. But yeah we have a lot more big air time on our tracks for sure and we groom too much along with ripping and watering waaaay too much before the event. If they didn't prep our tracks like they do they could leave the dozers and tractors parked during the event but imho they create a situation where they almost have to go out and do touch up between motos.
kawirider819 wrote:
I thought Eli ripped it few times during the races.
He did.
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Johnny Ringo 6/28/2021 3:29pm
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There’s a video somewhere of Pastrana casing it on his 125 in 2001 and completely destroying his wheel.
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skeef wrote:
America is simply this; when the 450 class hits laroccos leap on the first lap. REDBUUDDD
stremme12 wrote:
Funny thing is Paulin was the first rider to hit the leap at MXON in practice. Coldenhoff was probably the most consistent hitting it all day...
Funny thing is Paulin was the first rider to hit the leap at MXON in practice. Coldenhoff was probably the most consistent hitting it all day long.
motomike137 wrote:
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the...
It really bummed me out when I got there that weekend and they had that big mound at the base of it. I remembered seeing the FIM guy at the national intently studying the leap and figured this was added at his bequest. I thought nobody is going to jump the thing now. Then to add insult to my American ego that weekend "The Hoff" and Paulin hucked it anyway and none of our guys ever did it that I witnessed lol. But yeah we have a lot more big air time on our tracks for sure and we groom too much along with ripping and watering waaaay too much before the event. If they didn't prep our tracks like they do they could leave the dozers and tractors parked during the event but imho they create a situation where they almost have to go out and do touch up between motos.
Right! 13hr drive to Red Bud for the MXdN and the legendary Larocco's Leap. I get there to see a speed bump in front of it
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