No more dragon's back ?

spojetski
Edited Date/Time 3/4/2021 1:38pm
Had a look at every trackmap on the supercross live website, and there is apparently no dragon's back section on any of the tracks in 2021.

I remember Webb & Cianciarulo getting injured on one of these in Arlington last year; but i feel like its kinda missing on the track as it was a great separator. Why are they gone ?

Yes, riders got hurt on these, but correct me if im wrong, riders are still getting hurt without them. Are they gonna get rid of whoops and do flat track next ?

We need some more (and new) obstacles, not less ...
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Too much work and too much dirt for arenacross.......
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jorgechavez 2/26/2021 7:52am
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Well they seem to be persistent on only having whoop sections with like eight whoops maximum so we’re already half way to doing away with whoops too.
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Did you not see the one at Houston?
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Jordan421 2/26/2021 7:54am
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It’s the year of the wall, maybe next year the dragon back will be back.
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spojetski 2/26/2021 7:57am
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OT wrote:
Did you not see the one at Houston?
You mean the lizard's back at H2 ?
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gt80rider wrote:
Too much work and too much dirt for arenacross.......
C'mon people.That was funny! Grinning
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After Webb crashed Roger told the AMA/FIM no more dragon's back.
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The dragon backs were used up in 2017-2018. Theyre out of stock and are replacing it with walls
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patrickadizzle 2/26/2021 9:37am
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we need super dragon back sections, that are like three dragon back sections put together that go higher and higher eventually dropping of a cliff into a pit of sand Grinning
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patrickadizzle wrote:
we need super dragon back sections, that are like three dragon back sections put together that go higher and higher eventually dropping of a cliff into...
we need super dragon back sections, that are like three dragon back sections put together that go higher and higher eventually dropping of a cliff into a pit of sand Grinning
Dragon, Dragon, Wall, Sand, 180 Bowl-turn, Long Whoop Section.

You'll have lappers IMMEDIATELY!
Grinning
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remember the race Reed and Stewart were jumping into them then doubling over the gap. i think it was St Louis 2009. fuckin was badass.

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dkurtd wrote:
After Webb crashed Roger told the AMA/FIM no more dragon's back.
I knew this was coming
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dkurtd wrote:
After Webb crashed Roger told the AMA/FIM no more dragon's back.
When your team is sponsored by the primary competition of the series' number one sponsor, and you call the shots,,,, that's called horsepower.
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WheelieNelson 2/26/2021 10:52am
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I wanna see two wall jumps in a row

With a gator pit between

Jump sky high or get bit by gators your call
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I think we need a broke back mountain obstacle. Every time around the track, they switch out the triple landing distance and slope size on the other side. JK..
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dkurtd wrote:
After Webb crashed Roger told the AMA/FIM no more dragon's back.
wreckitrandy wrote:
When your team is sponsored by the primary competition of the series' number one sponsor, and you call the shots,,,, that's called horsepower.
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that.

Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round this year.....what 2 'top tier' guys are known to be whoop jumpers? Oh that's right, Webb and MooseCan.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Decoster has jumped the shark, can't wait til they quit letting him call the shots for MXDN as well, maybe we can start competing again.....
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zehn 2/26/2021 1:27pm
2/26/2021 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2021 1:28pm
What an interesting opinion you have LungButter
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bigk218 2/26/2021 2:05pm
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We are only allowed three obstacles in supercross (4 if you count the flaggers, medics, and AMA).

1) the jaw dropping supercross triple. (Same dimensions every week

2) whoops. Must be tame and have a pre whoop. ( one big set per year until everyone hits it like they are small then we get that taken away)

3) a combination of singles and table tops that can be arranged one of three ways.

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bigk218 wrote:
We are only allowed three obstacles in supercross (4 if you count the flaggers, medics, and AMA). 1) the jaw dropping supercross triple. (Same dimensions every...
We are only allowed three obstacles in supercross (4 if you count the flaggers, medics, and AMA).

1) the jaw dropping supercross triple. (Same dimensions every week

2) whoops. Must be tame and have a pre whoop. ( one big set per year until everyone hits it like they are small then we get that taken away)

3) a combination of singles and table tops that can be arranged one of three ways.

Yeah,,,,,, but DeCoster obviously is dictating the length, breadth and, depth of said obstacles. Plus, the type of dirt and, amount of prep. Not to mention the double super secret flaggers meeting prior to race day.
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bigk218 wrote:
We are only allowed three obstacles in supercross (4 if you count the flaggers, medics, and AMA). 1) the jaw dropping supercross triple. (Same dimensions every...
We are only allowed three obstacles in supercross (4 if you count the flaggers, medics, and AMA).

1) the jaw dropping supercross triple. (Same dimensions every week

2) whoops. Must be tame and have a pre whoop. ( one big set per year until everyone hits it like they are small then we get that taken away)

3) a combination of singles and table tops that can be arranged one of three ways.

wreckitrandy wrote:
Yeah,,,,,, but DeCoster obviously is dictating the length, breadth and, depth of said obstacles. Plus, the type of dirt and, amount of prep. Not to mention...
Yeah,,,,,, but DeCoster obviously is dictating the length, breadth and, depth of said obstacles. Plus, the type of dirt and, amount of prep. Not to mention the double super secret flaggers meeting prior to race day.
I agree. There is some serious stuff goin on over there.
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dkurtd wrote:
After Webb crashed Roger told the AMA/FIM no more dragon's back.
wreckitrandy wrote:
When your team is sponsored by the primary competition of the series' number one sponsor, and you call the shots,,,, that's called horsepower.
LungButter wrote:
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that. Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round...
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that.

Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round this year.....what 2 'top tier' guys are known to be whoop jumpers? Oh that's right, Webb and MooseCan.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Decoster has jumped the shark, can't wait til they quit letting him call the shots for MXDN as well, maybe we can start competing again.....
LungButter is not alone in this conspiracy theory.

Love or hate Reed, you can’t deny he’s been in supercross at the top level for a long time, as a rider, team owner and raced for Roger, so he has more insight than most. His opinion is the same:


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Supercross is turning into a traveling circus
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Matt Fisher 2/26/2021 6:32pm
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bigk218 wrote:
Supercross is turning into a traveling circus
I've always said SX was like going to the circus to see the animals, outdoor MX is like going on safari.
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bigk218 wrote:
Supercross is turning into a traveling circus
Matt Fisher wrote:
I've always said SX was like going to the circus to see the animals, outdoor MX is like going on safari.
Haha hell yeah. That’s a good analogy!!!!!
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wreckitrandy wrote:
When your team is sponsored by the primary competition of the series' number one sponsor, and you call the shots,,,, that's called horsepower.
LungButter wrote:
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that. Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round...
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that.

Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round this year.....what 2 'top tier' guys are known to be whoop jumpers? Oh that's right, Webb and MooseCan.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Decoster has jumped the shark, can't wait til they quit letting him call the shots for MXDN as well, maybe we can start competing again.....
CPR wrote:
LungButter is not alone in this conspiracy theory. Love or hate Reed, you can’t deny he’s been in supercross at the top level for a long...
LungButter is not alone in this conspiracy theory.

Love or hate Reed, you can’t deny he’s been in supercross at the top level for a long time, as a rider, team owner and raced for Roger, so he has more insight than most. His opinion is the same:


Chad's had it broke off in him. He should know what happens when you mess with the bull of the woods. Lots of little pretender wannabes in this sport. There can be only one, "The Man".
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dkurtd wrote:
After Webb crashed Roger told the AMA/FIM no more dragon's back.
wreckitrandy wrote:
When your team is sponsored by the primary competition of the series' number one sponsor, and you call the shots,,,, that's called horsepower.
LungButter wrote:
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that. Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round...
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that.

Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round this year.....what 2 'top tier' guys are known to be whoop jumpers? Oh that's right, Webb and MooseCan.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Decoster has jumped the shark, can't wait til they quit letting him call the shots for MXDN as well, maybe we can start competing again.....
So, DeCoster is holding us back at the desNations?
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wreckitrandy wrote:
When your team is sponsored by the primary competition of the series' number one sponsor, and you call the shots,,,, that's called horsepower.
LungButter wrote:
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that. Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round...
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that.

Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round this year.....what 2 'top tier' guys are known to be whoop jumpers? Oh that's right, Webb and MooseCan.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Decoster has jumped the shark, can't wait til they quit letting him call the shots for MXDN as well, maybe we can start competing again.....
wreckitrandy wrote:
So, DeCoster is holding us back at the desNations?
This is last week’s discussion, we no longer care as it’s race week. DAYTONA!!!
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patrickadizzle wrote:
we need super dragon back sections, that are like three dragon back sections put together that go higher and higher eventually dropping of a cliff into...
we need super dragon back sections, that are like three dragon back sections put together that go higher and higher eventually dropping of a cliff into a pit of sand Grinning
Do you mean “a pit of despair!?!”
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LungButter wrote:
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that. Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round...
Well, Webb lost the Championship last year on a dragons back so there's that.

Also, someone pointed out the whoops have been lame at every round this year.....what 2 'top tier' guys are known to be whoop jumpers? Oh that's right, Webb and MooseCan.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Decoster has jumped the shark, can't wait til they quit letting him call the shots for MXDN as well, maybe we can start competing again.....
wreckitrandy wrote:
So, DeCoster is holding us back at the desNations?
Jordan421 wrote:
This is last week’s discussion, we no longer care as it’s race week. DAYTONA!!!
Sorry 'bout me. Daytoner!
GeorgiePorgie 3/3/2021 9:46am
3/3/2021 9:46am Edited Date/Time 3/3/2021 9:49am
CPR wrote:
LungButter is not alone in this conspiracy theory. Love or hate Reed, you can’t deny he’s been in supercross at the top level for a long...
LungButter is not alone in this conspiracy theory.

Love or hate Reed, you can’t deny he’s been in supercross at the top level for a long time, as a rider, team owner and raced for Roger, so he has more insight than most. His opinion is the same:


When he makes comments like that, now I know his rider union / organization talk was never anything more than "cheap talk." He just used it as an excuse anytime HE felt wronged as an individual, could care less about the riders as a whole. Guy harped about organizing, but probably only really wanted to organize for certain people. Collectively not looking out for every competitor. As an owner you don't want a union, as a promoter you dont want a union, as a rider you want a union. Although i'm not sure a lot of riders want a union either. Which is fine, as long they keep racing, I don't care.
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