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toroP 2/20/2021 7:21pm
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BS12 wrote:
Tomac is definitely not Tomac this year and its so hard to watch. Easy to say as an arm chair expert but its blatantly obvious. As...
Tomac is definitely not Tomac this year and its so hard to watch. Easy to say as an arm chair expert but its blatantly obvious. As much as the other guys have upped their game, I feel as though he has dropped is.

Granted, we hold him to such incredibly lofty heights and he is 3rd in points, but that's definitely not 2020, 19, 18, or 17 Eli out there at the moment. The in form Tomac of those years marches through Barcia and goes to work bridging the gap to the front 2.

You can't be great forever, but I'd hate for him to fade out so quickly after such a strong, mature and consistent showing just a year ago.
I’m promise you, Tomac is Tomac.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
450 Points [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/02/20/479601/s1200_Screenshot_20210220_220251_Drive.jpg[/img]
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mx 219 wrote:
2 horse race
Not quite yet. One bad race/DNF and it all changes.
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Anderson is a good example of the fact that we don't know a got dam thing here at Vital.

He's had some underlying issues and we all toss him like his attitude is bad or he likes to goof around too much.

Seriously....these riders at this level need everything to click, everything! The top 10 are real badass mother f'ers.

You better be tuned if you're gonna run in there with them.

I'm glad to see Hombre getting it dialed....I'm a fan.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
450 Points [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/02/20/479601/s1200_Screenshot_20210220_220251_Drive.jpg[/img]
450 Points

mx 219 wrote:
2 horse race
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Not quite yet. One bad race/DNF and it all changes.
AC from 4th to 8th ouch
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tickleme20 2/20/2021 7:28pm
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Marv and his 30 min podium speeches
He's improved a lot IMO! This one had some pretty good substance, I thought, describing the track and throwing a bit of shade at Anderson.
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jkoch249 2/20/2021 7:29pm
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hamncheeze wrote:
Credit to Barcia, serious heat most the of the race from Tomac and then Roczen, dude just kept at it and mostly hit his marks. Not...
Credit to Barcia, serious heat most the of the race from Tomac and then Roczen, dude just kept at it and mostly hit his marks. Not easy to do on that track.
plowboy wrote:
That track was just evil.
Mummy_Napkin wrote:
For real, just that whoops section took down several 250 riders between the heats and main
Very true. I NEVER want to see anyone get hurt, but it's also welcome to see things actually "challenging " for these guys....things that separate them a bit. I know we all complain when the tracks are too easy as well.
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tickleme20 2/20/2021 7:31pm
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Forty wrote:
Anderson is a good example of the fact that we don't know a got dam thing here at Vital. He's had some underlying issues and we...
Anderson is a good example of the fact that we don't know a got dam thing here at Vital.

He's had some underlying issues and we all toss him like his attitude is bad or he likes to goof around too much.

Seriously....these riders at this level need everything to click, everything! The top 10 are real badass mother f'ers.

You better be tuned if you're gonna run in there with them.

I'm glad to see Hombre getting it dialed....I'm a fan.
Yeah, a lot of Vital was positively giddy with the "He left Aldon, now he's a fat washed out has-been who doesn't take the sport seriously" angle. Oops! I'm stoked for him.
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grobbins231 2/20/2021 7:31pm
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Anyone else notice how many times Ricky talked about the chess match? I get the reference but man come on. It’s not that close of an analogy
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tickleme20 2/20/2021 7:32pm
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BS12 wrote:
Tomac is definitely not Tomac this year and its so hard to watch. Easy to say as an arm chair expert but its blatantly obvious. As...
Tomac is definitely not Tomac this year and its so hard to watch. Easy to say as an arm chair expert but its blatantly obvious. As much as the other guys have upped their game, I feel as though he has dropped is.

Granted, we hold him to such incredibly lofty heights and he is 3rd in points, but that's definitely not 2020, 19, 18, or 17 Eli out there at the moment. The in form Tomac of those years marches through Barcia and goes to work bridging the gap to the front 2.

You can't be great forever, but I'd hate for him to fade out so quickly after such a strong, mature and consistent showing just a year ago.
He's quickly morphing into Blake Baggett.
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Ranman68 2/20/2021 7:36pm
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parkman wrote:
Dang, as a Tomac fan that was hard to watch.
I hear ya.
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tickleme20 2/20/2021 7:42pm
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I seem to recall there were at LEAST 3-4 Eli BEAST MODE races for every weird stinker. Now it's basically flipped.
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Word from GuyB was AC got transported to the hospital.
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I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his arms/hands seem okay. Wonder if he didn't hit his head.
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ZOBITO 2/20/2021 7:54pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Ferrandis back up to 11th after being last for a long time.

Pretty good ride.
jkoch249 wrote:
Saw him pull off the track for a bit...then back on in last. Then he slowly gained time on the leaders for a few laps while...
Saw him pull off the track for a bit...then back on in last. Then he slowly gained time on the leaders for a few laps while never getting lapped. Wonder what happened 🤔
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I'm not sure, but pretty damn good ride all things considered.
Stopped by his mechanic with a shift lever issue after hitting a tuff block.
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tuttle425 wrote:
I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his...
I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his arms/hands seem okay. Wonder if he didn't hit his head.
I would suggest there's some internal damage.. Not saying it's anything drastic, but he was squashed into the jump by his bike
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Ranman68 2/20/2021 8:35pm
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I root for Tomac and Webb both, so it was a both a great race to watch and a bummer. Personally, I think Tomac does well for a while (coming through the pack), but hits a brick wall of frustration and then mentally destructs. I think these tracks so far (tight, slick, hard to pass on, that require perfect timing, and that demand excellent throttle control) are just too much for him. He's a "rail the corners", full throttle, hard charger that thrives on fast tracks and narly conditions. Thats why he's a Daytona beast. Too many tracks like they've had, too many bad starts, so much difficulty moving up through the pack while getting further behind on points each week, have him self destructing, losing hope, and losing that fire where "beast mode" reside. That is what i believe is happening with Tomac. Just my thoughts based on my observations.
Coop Dog, on the other hand, is suited to it because his throttle control and race craft are both incredible. Similar guys in many ways, but opposites in the way they ride and approach a race. The Tomac fan in me just hopes Tomac finds his mojo, goes on a "beast mode" run of wins, and is back in the fight for the title over the next few races. The Webb fan in me is stoked, believing he's gonna wear Ken plum out, and getting another 450 sx title.
Now........enough about those two.
How about my jolly ole' english homeboy MAX ANSTIE!?!? Fresh off of an injury, first time ever in a 450 sx event, and fights off a legit, sx vet like Dean Wilson to get straight into the main from his heat race! I must say, i would have bet that IF Max got into the main, it would be through the LCQ. i thought it might be 2 or 3 races before even that happened. I was wrong as F and yet glad I was. He's a cool guy. I like seeing people like him do well.
Bummed for AC. Super good dude. Incredible talent. A bitter sweet night of sx.
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tuttle425 wrote:
I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his...
I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his arms/hands seem okay. Wonder if he didn't hit his head.
jemcee wrote:
I would suggest there's some internal damage.. Not saying it's anything drastic, but he was squashed into the jump by his bike
That was a very awkward angle his upper/lower body was in on the impact. Hoping for good news.
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tuttle425 wrote:
I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his...
I watched AC's crash about 10 times now and I can't really tell what he hurt. He's not carrying himself like it's a shoulder and his arms/hands seem okay. Wonder if he didn't hit his head.
jemcee wrote:
I would suggest there's some internal damage.. Not saying it's anything drastic, but he was squashed into the jump by his bike
plowboy wrote:
That was a very awkward angle his upper/lower body was in on the impact. Hoping for good news.
Yeah very! Looked like he had a pretty serious case of the HUUUUNGH HUUUUNGH's as well (the noise you make when ya body is trying to get everything back into the shape it supposed to be)
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Narwhal wrote:
Track designs this year are really bad. Slot car tracks every week.
Roczen went from 17th to 4th .. and he was nice to all of them , didnt need to bang bars for it
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FlickitFlat wrote:
Do Brit's always pronounce a word that ends in an A with an R. Like HondaR and FloridaR? I never noticed that before but heard it...
Do Brit's always pronounce a word that ends in an A with an R. Like HondaR and FloridaR? I never noticed that before but heard it a few times tonight.
Diffey isn’t a Brit 😂
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philG 2/21/2021 3:27am
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FlickitFlat wrote:
Do Brit's always pronounce a word that ends in an A with an R. Like HondaR and FloridaR? I never noticed that before but heard it...
Do Brit's always pronounce a word that ends in an A with an R. Like HondaR and FloridaR? I never noticed that before but heard it a few times tonight.
mysterion1171 wrote:
Diffey isn’t a Brit 😂
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

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philG wrote:
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

Please, Americans sound like eloquent rocket scientist compared to you Brits. You guys sound like you're chewing on some taffy after 15 beers...
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FlickitFlat wrote:
Do Brit's always pronounce a word that ends in an A with an R. Like HondaR and FloridaR? I never noticed that before but heard it...
Do Brit's always pronounce a word that ends in an A with an R. Like HondaR and FloridaR? I never noticed that before but heard it a few times tonight.
mysterion1171 wrote:
Diffey isn’t a Brit 😂
philG wrote:
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

Does every Brit have fucked up teeth and smell like shit? Yep, I think they do.
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philG wrote:
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

Not to change the subject, but Honda is a last name so it should be pronounced as done by that person. I'm not Japanese so not sure of the correct pronunciation however.
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mysterion1171 wrote:
Diffey isn’t a Brit 😂
philG wrote:
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

15psd wrote:
Does every Brit have fucked up teeth and smell like shit? Yep, I think they do.
I'm gonna assume you are good friends with Phil and are giving him a dig. If not, there's no call for your comment. My wife is British and her crooked choppers haven't slowed down her eating in the least. I joke, but cool yer jets bro.
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philG wrote:
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

15psd wrote:
Does every Brit have fucked up teeth and smell like shit? Yep, I think they do.
plowboy wrote:
I'm gonna assume you are good friends with Phil and are giving him a dig. If not, there's no call for your comment. My wife is...
I'm gonna assume you are good friends with Phil and are giving him a dig. If not, there's no call for your comment. My wife is British and her crooked choppers haven't slowed down her eating in the least. I joke, but cool yer jets bro.
THIS is why I'm a plowboy fan.
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WW444 2/21/2021 7:29pm
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This may have already been discussed and I haven’t seen it but why did they not change the track from last week? First time I believe that they have ever raced the same exact track.
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WW444 wrote:
This may have already been discussed and I haven’t seen it but why did they not change the track from last week? First time I believe...
This may have already been discussed and I haven’t seen it but why did they not change the track from last week? First time I believe that they have ever raced the same exact track.
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philG wrote:
Do Americans always pronounce words with an 'O' in them like its 2 'A's
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'Haanda

He says 'Honda' just fine.

BobPA wrote:
Please, Americans sound like eloquent rocket scientist compared to you Brits. You guys sound like you're chewing on some taffy after 15 beers...
I thought he was British. My bad. But no he does not say Honda OK. I never really noticed it much until last night. He says Hondar or Honder. He said Floridar, and the worst was Barcia. Now there is no way in hell Barcia is pronounced Barsher. I've heard others in the past say Americ er when refering to an American.
It was an honest question.

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