Deepest field in history 450's, Shallowest field in history 250's?

MX Dad #27
Lapped up to 4th place, more area codes and people I've never heard of in the history of SX.
People keep talking about how long riders are staying in the 250 class, if it wasn't for this, we would have about 5 riders we've ever heard of to cheer for. I'm all about the under dog, but this is tough to watch.
Shimota goes from the back to 4th like he is a pro at a local race. I'm hoping for more when we go East.
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chad_111 2/2/2021 7:24pm
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Forkner, Hampshire, Lawrence, Pettis, Vohland. The shallow field is due to injury, not due to people moving to the 450's.
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kb228 2/2/2021 7:31pm
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250 class would be better without the coasts
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Cygrace74 2/2/2021 7:39pm
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2014 east coast was about the same. Privateers getting third and fourth
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mxwells216 2/2/2021 8:01pm
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chad_111 wrote:
Forkner, Hampshire, Lawrence, Pettis, Vohland. The shallow field is due to injury, not due to people moving to the 450's.
He didn’t say that....
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Phillip_Lamb 2/2/2021 10:26pm
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Im suprised more 450privateers havent dropped down (assuming they arent contracted with a team or to big)

I know 450s make more money for night show but at the least theyd be making mains and getting some results.

I dont think ive seen privateers so deep in a main
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I wonder if people that could change things finally realize that the regional system has to be scrapped for one premier 250 class.

One 250 class for the best 250 riders that race all the rounds with normal TV coverage and streaming.
Then add two regional age restricted 250 classes that is only available through the streaming package.

One can only hope that is the future. The current system is shit.
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philG 2/3/2021 12:39am
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It was hard to watch last night, but guys get hurt.. in one of the heats last night, if you didnt get lapped , you made the main.
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jmbayle 2/3/2021 1:53am
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At least the 250 race was cut short. Man it was boring !
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RG1 2/3/2021 2:40am
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All of them are getting full national points too, embarrassing
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bigk218 2/3/2021 4:24am
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I think we finally have a primer class.
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motonation24 2/3/2021 4:47am
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All of them are getting full national points too, embarrassing
lol yeah some of these guys will have low National numbers next year.
Poor 450 guys putting in the work will miss out
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ROCKNDAWG 2/3/2021 5:07am
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You guys that think this is the deepest season ever are just not old enough, us old guys that witnessed all the years around the early 1980s know better. There were lots of years that were way more stacked than this. And better racing. Plus they were on 2 strokes! Sorry you missed it. I guess maybe for 450s.
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ROCKNDAWG wrote:
You guys that think this is the deepest season ever are just not old enough, us old guys that witnessed all the years around the early...
You guys that think this is the deepest season ever are just not old enough, us old guys that witnessed all the years around the early 1980s know better. There were lots of years that were way more stacked than this. And better racing. Plus they were on 2 strokes! Sorry you missed it. I guess maybe for 450s.
And all those uphill both ways snow races were unimaginable Dizzy
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Motofinne wrote:
I wonder if people that could change things finally realize that the regional system has to be scrapped for one premier 250 class. One 250 class...
I wonder if people that could change things finally realize that the regional system has to be scrapped for one premier 250 class.

One 250 class for the best 250 riders that race all the rounds with normal TV coverage and streaming.
Then add two regional age restricted 250 classes that is only available through the streaming package.

One can only hope that is the future. The current system is shit.
Will never happen but I do like the idea
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quadzrulebro 2/3/2021 6:37am
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There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season for that. Probably about 1000 people in the stands last night. I sure hope Supercross survives the Rona.
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MX Dad #27 wrote:
Lapped up to 4th place, more area codes and people I've never heard of in the history of SX. People keep talking about how long riders...
Lapped up to 4th place, more area codes and people I've never heard of in the history of SX.
People keep talking about how long riders are staying in the 250 class, if it wasn't for this, we would have about 5 riders we've ever heard of to cheer for. I'm all about the under dog, but this is tough to watch.
Shimota goes from the back to 4th like he is a pro at a local race. I'm hoping for more when we go East.
Dude... all this lapping is because they are running arenacross tracks ....
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MX Dad #27 wrote:
Lapped up to 4th place, more area codes and people I've never heard of in the history of SX. People keep talking about how long riders...
Lapped up to 4th place, more area codes and people I've never heard of in the history of SX.
People keep talking about how long riders are staying in the 250 class, if it wasn't for this, we would have about 5 riders we've ever heard of to cheer for. I'm all about the under dog, but this is tough to watch.
Shimota goes from the back to 4th like he is a pro at a local race. I'm hoping for more when we go East.
YOU mean west.

I guess your not watching the heats or LQC because these guys are letting it all hang out trying to get in.
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quadzrulebro wrote:
There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season...
There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season for that. Probably about 1000 people in the stands last night. I sure hope Supercross survives the Rona.
What? Even lighter attendance than the race in the snowpocolypse?

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MX Dad #27 2/3/2021 3:20pm
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ROCKNDAWG wrote:
You guys that think this is the deepest season ever are just not old enough, us old guys that witnessed all the years around the early...
You guys that think this is the deepest season ever are just not old enough, us old guys that witnessed all the years around the early 1980s know better. There were lots of years that were way more stacked than this. And better racing. Plus they were on 2 strokes! Sorry you missed it. I guess maybe for 450s.
55 and I disagree. This is the deepest field and I miss nothing.
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MX Dad #27 2/3/2021 3:24pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Dude... all this lapping is because they are running arenacross tracks ....
I wish the laps were longer too but they aren't running 25 second ArenaCross laps.
thisnameistaken 2/3/2021 3:35pm
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I think the regional was a good idea 30 years ago but its time for a change.They run the full outdoor national why not the same for sx? The way they train these days they are damn near as fast at the 450 guys they are not fresh out of the local C class trying to learn supercross.
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MX Dad #27 wrote:
55 and I disagree. This is the deepest field and I miss nothing.
I would argue that 2011 was deeper
RV, Dunge, Reed, Stew, Millsaps, Cannard, K-Dub..
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quadzrulebro 2/4/2021 12:53pm
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quadzrulebro wrote:
There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season...
There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season for that. Probably about 1000 people in the stands last night. I sure hope Supercross survives the Rona.
Kevin852 wrote:
What? Even lighter attendance than the race in the snowpocolypse?

I almost did not survive my Uber ride to Indy 1 Woohoo Cool Whistling
I hope your cheap ass at least tipped the driver.
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Kevin852 2/4/2021 1:45pm
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quadzrulebro wrote:
There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season...
There were empty spots on the starting line in heat races, so basically anyone that signed up made the night show. Pretty early in the season for that. Probably about 1000 people in the stands last night. I sure hope Supercross survives the Rona.
Kevin852 wrote:
What? Even lighter attendance than the race in the snowpocolypse?

I almost did not survive my Uber ride to Indy 1 Woohoo Cool Whistling
quadzrulebro wrote:
I hope your cheap ass at least tipped the driver.
He made me pay for parking....

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duckdog77 2/4/2021 1:54pm
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The 250 class structure debate gets beat to death! IMO it’s not a premiere class. It’s a stepping stone to the 450 class. Only the top riders from each coast really make it to the 450 class. That’s evident in the fact of how many guys in the 450 class have 250 titles to their name.

By the time a rider goes through the 250 class they have either climbed to the top or realized this isn’t the sport for them. You have around 50 entries in the 450 class. And around 40 per coast in the 250 class. That’s 80 250 riders trying to make it to the big show. So we should get rid of coasts and have 80 entries to the 250 class each week? 130 riders...Where will they pit? How will we do qualifying for all these guys? Add more timed qualifying Sessions? Which means more track prep as you have an additional 40 bikes ripping around. The program will indeed have to get longer to allow for all the extra sessions that need to happen as well. And then at the end of the night 22 guys of the 80 that showed up get to race. That’s a lot of wasted time for a lot of people trying to get a chance to showcase their talents and make the jump to the next level.

I think there is a lot more to think of than just getting rid of the coasts. While there may need to be an over haul of the points system and pointing out, getting rid of the coasts might not be as good for the sport as we all think. It’s already hard enough to make it. Let’s just make it even harder because we don’t like seeing Timmy busting his ass in the LCQ to make his first 250 main because he’s “slow” yet would smoke most anyone on this forum.
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