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1/27/2012 2:34am
Attached is a compilation of the SPEED TV crew's three different shots of the Hangtown incident involving Josh Grant in the second moto.
http://mxsportsproracing.com/hangtown-red-yellow.wmv
There is a downed rider and the paramedics in the track to Josh's right, which is where Alessi would likely have landed on the usual line he used.
DC
MX Sports
http://mxsportsproracing.com/hangtown-red-yellow.wmv
There is a downed rider and the paramedics in the track to Josh's right, which is where Alessi would likely have landed on the usual line he used.
DC
MX Sports
Glad to see the rules being enforced and held to.
It's just a racing incident and JG will look out better in the future. Hopefully others will too.
I'm still for the using a different color flag than one with a lot of yellow on it.
In the second clip, it looked like the corner worker damned near whapped him on the head with the flag.
If he didn't see it, he should get a penalty for not paying attention.
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My only guess is that Grant saw it as a yellow flag, not red/yellow. Maybe a different color is the way to go.
I think there are SEVERAL posters here that could post a mia culpa from the long thread talking about how the flagging wasn't right. If anyone failed to see that guy, then that's on the rider. Not the flagger.
thanks DC for the follow up.
Seems like MX sports is doing all the right things and I doubt JG wants to hurt anybody.
But thats not the issue, he could have landed on somebody really easy had they been at the bottom of that BLIND jump.
I say good call, bummer for JG for sure but...........rules are rules and I hope he comes back to win some more!
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I will say that all the riders have to process and discard an awful lot of info every lap out there.
Color seems like an easy way to present a defense, but I seriously question the validity.
It's my experience that there is almost always time to react, if you want to. Could it be so simple as Alessi remembering what happened to him last year, or Grant not?
JR
While the argument of a different color system has merit, nothing will matter unless the rider and team view of flagging changes. The yellow/orange flag is very visable from the footage here.
Davey, you have a great start on making that happen. As a racer, parent of a racer, part time flagger and track referee, what you are doing is key to the safety of a downed rider.
Nice job on bringing the different views to the message board world. Not many would tread on the fringes of this or any other place. You do it with good information and perspective.
Just don't think for a minute that one of the Vitaldrivers won't jump down your throat given the chance.. :-)
Again..tough call.
the yellow flag is the warnnig for the riders ofa danger situation, it should be taken as a caution riding situation and a no racing situation, but what you see is racers only change lines an keep racing.
i think it is as dangerous when someone is down and is being treated as when they just fall and are standing up and gettig started. bought are caution situations and all riders should take care, and that is the job of the yellow flag if it was respected.
so why bring in another flag, make the yellow count, be strick with the yellow situations and make the riders respect it, make it a real no racing situation and you dont need anymore flags or stripes or whatever..........
yellow flag means no racing, and that is no passing, no jumping, no nothing.......just going by with caution....and that is for the safety of all..........
The flagger definitely takes a step further out toward the line they are using AFTER Grant goes by.
But rules are rules.
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