Nick Wey as a riding coach?

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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
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Wey brings a vast amount of experience. He understands training properly, rider technique, and keeping a structure while having fun.
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Speed does not equal smarts and ability to analyze riding technique and coach a rider.
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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near...
Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
Cos that’s not how coaching works
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RoflCopter726 6/10/2020 4:45pm
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Some of the most well known coaches in this sport haven't ever raced pro motocross. Aldon Baker? Jeannie Carmichael? Colleen Millsaps?
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lol what a dumb question
in no sport ever where coaches are involved they had to be the best while they where pro
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Those who do, do. Those who cant coach.

Which is a bit harsh on Nick. In his prime he was a factory rider and podium guy in the RC, Reed, Stew era so he was no slouch. I'm going out on a limb here but i would guess that somebody like Nick, or Ivan Tedesco would be able to articulate what the best guys are doing on a bike better than the best guys themselves.

Have you ever spoken to a fast guy and asked them about a section? What gear are they in? Do they remember nearly eating shit on lap 3? Most of the time they have no idea what they're doing, they just do it. It takes a certain type of person to be able explain and identify what is happening and why.
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neverwas 6/10/2020 5:08pm
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Look up Weys stats,he was a lot better than you give him credit for and he did it for a long time.
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You should get a black flag for this thread...
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He finished top 5 in the outdoors 3 times. I’m thinking he might have some good advice. Unsure and he knows the ins and outs of Sx and Mx as good or better than anyone. He’s been a racer and test rider. Not sure where the doubt comes in, but I’d be stoked to have him coaching my kid...

Here you go, refresh your memory.

https://racerxonline.com/2016/01/19/lucas-oil-pro-motocross-championshi…
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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near...
Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
Wet is Cool with a capital K... Kooooooool Cat
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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near...
Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
Since when are the best athletes the best coaches or visa versa?
Was Phil Jackson the best basketball player? using your thinking, for him to be a good coach, he must have been better than MJ? otherwise what could he possibly have to offer?

My second point, whilst you are right, he didn't win much. but you say he was more often than not at the back of the pack.... don't be fucking stupid, the dude wasn't running around in 30th to 40th in nationals. and near 20th in supercross.
At his peak he was well and truly at the front half of the pack.

But most of all, if you listen to his interviews he seems like an intelligent, and insightful person. he obviously thought about his riding, training and bike preparation a lot. I am sure there were guys that beat him, that didn't have anywhere near the understanding of what created the performance that Nick did.

Honestly, I have no idea if Nick is a good coach, but neither do you, the people working with him however do know what he does/does not offer.
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If you don’t understand why Nick Wey would be an amazing coach, there’s more important things you don’t understand.
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How many titles Jeanne Carmichael win?
Big James Stewart win any?
How many did Tony Alessi win?
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People forget Wey was a badass on a 125 back in the day, his 250/450 career was OK but still one hell of a rider. I would be thrilled to have him as a riding coach.
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Nick is also a super calm and nice guy
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JohnnyD13 6/10/2020 5:54pm
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Nick Wey quotes.
You can’t win if you don’t look cool.
One time In an interview he said when he moved into his new house In California he put a bench press in his driveway just to let his neighbors know what’s up.
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Disappointing thread by a long time vital member..The only explanation is that your account was hacked by some dumbass..
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This thread didn't age well, considering Mcadoo just got on the podium. Seems like the NYK has helped out a bit there.
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Alex Fergusson – Arguably GOAT football coach. Not an amazing player.

Phil Jackson – Possibly GOAT NBA coach. Not an amazing player.

Aldon Baker – Possibly GOAT MX trainer. Can he even ride a bike?
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Yeah man, makes total sense. I mean Tom Brady has used Tom House as a throwing coach. Obviously that means Tom House is a better QB than Tom Brady.
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He only had a 20 year pro career...
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PBRvince wrote:
He only had a 20 year pro career...
20 years!?!?

Pffft....what a loser
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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near...
Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
Haha, good points. That’s like Roger Federer hiring a guy that he’s beat consistently. Makes sense. Maybe Nick is just motivated and feels like he can help. Nick seems like a pretty squared away guy. Maybe he would be better at coaching than competing...
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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near...
Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
Check out the head coaching records of Stan Van Gundy & Magic Johnson. Who would you say was the better player? i.e. Riding ability vs ability to effectively convey and instill acquired knowledge are 2 completely different skill sets.

I’d actually argue someone that wasn’t the most naturally talented but found a way to compete at that level despite a deficiency in god given ability by focusing on all the little things they could control would have the most to offer as a teacher.
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capeway215 6/10/2020 9:34pm
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He helped turn AC's career around, and McAdoo just got another podium. Think Wey's just fine.
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yamaharider471 6/10/2020 9:38pm
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Too many variables to even argue this. Did anyone watch the Michael Jordan documentary recently? Steve Kerr played for the Bulls and was an OK player but now coaches the golden state warriors and has multiple championships as a coach. Is he a good coach or did he have great talent on his team that carried them? It takes two to tango my friends....
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JohnnyD13 wrote:
Nick Wey quotes. You can’t win if you don’t look cool. One time In an interview he said when he moved into his new house In...
Nick Wey quotes.
You can’t win if you don’t look cool.
One time In an interview he said when he moved into his new house In California he put a bench press in his driveway just to let his neighbors know what’s up.
Oh man I literally LOL'd at this, bench press in the driveway hahaha
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This has got to be on the all time list of stupid threads. The guy was pulling podiums against RC, Stew, and Reed in their primes and had a 20 year career but apparently he's not good enough to be a riding coach. I don't even know what to say, unreal.Pinch
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dboivin 6/10/2020 11:26pm
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i watched nick coach adults when he was 13. lol. he'll do ok.


very few made as long of a career as a professional than nick, always had a ride, down to earth and promoted his sponsors better than anyone......made a life for himself in moto. I can not think of a better person to coach (not just on the track stuff)...just think what he brings to the table for a young rider?
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Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near...
Man I almost didn’t want to start this because don’t want to disrespect the guy but why would someone that hardly ever won and ran near the back of the pack more often than not end up being a riding coach to guys that are more talented than the coach himself? Makes no sense.
What does a riding coach actually do?
Maybe Wey is a better teacher than a rider. Who knows.
Ricky Carmichael’s coach was his mom and I guarantee you that Nick Wey can ride a bike better than Jeanie.
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