Who's the Best rider to never win Championship in 450 class (or 250 b4 4 porkers)

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My vote would be for Kevin Winham with Pastrana a close 2nd
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Windham
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Windham and Bradshaw. The Beast came so much closer, but to me Windham's natural talent was out of this world, even more so than Damon's.
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DV was very, very close too. (SX)
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Windham 100%. He had to ride against RC, Stew, and Reed. Bradshaw a close second.
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Pourcel. Musquin. Windham. Canard.
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Davi Millsaps, Mike Alessi, Ben Townley
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yz133rider wrote:
Pourcel. Musquin. Windham. Canard.
I would have loved to see what a young, (relatively) motivated 377 could have done straight off the PC bike on Factory Kawi or similar. His talent was in the .01% range.
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Keith "bones" Bowen - Team Yamaha 84-86
He was the first rider to skim the tops of SX whoops instead of 2 or 3 at a time.

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K Dub
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Sylvain Geboers


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tcannon521 4/23/2020 8:17pm
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Superdave19 wrote:
DV was very, very close too. (SX)
Agreed! DV wins this conversation easily.
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SEE ARE125 4/23/2020 8:27pm
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Windham.

BTW, anyone remember the race where KW was giving Stew a fit for a few laps? I think Windham eventually went down trying to scrub, but it was a good battle up to that point.
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yz133rider wrote:
Pourcel. Musquin. Windham. Canard.
big.dos wrote:
I would have loved to see what a young, (relatively) motivated 377 could have done straight off the PC bike on Factory Kawi or similar. His...
I would have loved to see what a young, (relatively) motivated 377 could have done straight off the PC bike on Factory Kawi or similar. His talent was in the .01% range.
Agreed. Watching him in person it looks like hes on a sunday trail ride, meanwhile hes the fastest on track. Unreal talent, vision, line choice, etc.
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K-dub since I’ve been a fan of the sport for sure.


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Larocco has won 2 Championships outdoors 93 500, 94 250 championship
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ts.p311 wrote:
Davi Millsaps, Mike Alessi, Ben Townley
alessi had 2009 in the bag ,until he broke his knee cap in practice.

blake bagget my pick of current riders.
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Ron Lechien - vices kept him from it

John Dowd - finished 2nd twice in 250 Nats
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Pourcel
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Bradshaw all the way....not even close
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Moto520 wrote:
Bradshaw all the way....not even close
Yeah in the AMA it’s Bradshaw. Was a beast at 17 threw away a title in 92 and was never the same after Red Bud of 92. Still no one is close to Bradshaw.
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scott_nz 4/23/2020 10:18pm
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Bradshaw and the DV,
Bradshaw would have won with out the LA riots, he would not have had hte knee injury if the LA SX had happened at the time it was ment to,

DV might have done it without the photo shoot crash,

Dirtydeeds 4/23/2020 10:23pm
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
Windham. BTW, anyone remember the race where KW was giving Stew a fit for a few laps? I think Windham eventually went down trying to scrub...
Windham.

BTW, anyone remember the race where KW was giving Stew a fit for a few laps? I think Windham eventually went down trying to scrub, but it was a good battle up to that point.
I remember. I feel like it was Houston or New Orleans? He caught his foot scrubbin the triple and put er down after battlin in the heat race with Stew I believe.
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FIREfish148 4/23/2020 10:31pm
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CrashMaster wrote:
Larocco has won 2 Championships outdoors 93 500, 94 250 championship
Oh my bad I was thinking we were talking supercross
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hamncheeze 4/23/2020 10:41pm
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Bradshaw, Windham, DV, and Canard all come to mind. I honestly think Canard could have won the outdoor title in 2014 if Honda had allowed him to switch forks at the start of the series. Once he made the switch he could run with Dungey and Roczen and won a few motos.

It was Houston 2012 when KW ate shit going after JS7 in the heat race. His shoulder was messed up pretty good but he still tried to ride practice in Vegas.
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FIREfish148 4/23/2020 10:43pm
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
Windham. BTW, anyone remember the race where KW was giving Stew a fit for a few laps? I think Windham eventually went down trying to scrub...
Windham.

BTW, anyone remember the race where KW was giving Stew a fit for a few laps? I think Windham eventually went down trying to scrub, but it was a good battle up to that point.
Dirtydeeds wrote:
I remember. I feel like it was Houston or New Orleans? He caught his foot scrubbin the triple and put er down after battlin in the...
I remember. I feel like it was Houston or New Orleans? He caught his foot scrubbin the triple and put er down after battlin in the heat race with Stew I believe.
Houston 2012
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Josh Grant, Ivan Tedesco, Dowd, Tortelli, Metcalfe, Short
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WCRider 4/23/2020 11:57pm
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Windham and Bradshaw.
scottydogmx 4/24/2020 2:23am
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Josh Coppins , so close
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Dave #125 4/24/2020 3:50am
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Ozy wrote:
My vote would be for Kevin Winham with Pastrana a close 2nd
Lechien, Bradshaw
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Bradshaw without question. Had it in he bag before he hurt his knee before the sx final in 92. I think he still had the best style in moto history. Flawless technique.

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