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soggy wrote:
no way he could qualify on a two stroke if he had too....Whistling
Agreed
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soggy wrote:
no way he could qualify on a two stroke if he had too....Whistling
resetjet wrote:
Agreed
Exactly. Hence my statement. Not a criticism of him
miedosoracing1 4/22/2020 6:25pm
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
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Few things the 450f would still have... - electric start - electronic "trickery" to move power around (and for launch control) - hundreds of hours of...
Few things the 450f would still have...

- electric start
- electronic "trickery" to move power around (and for launch control)
- hundreds of hours of testing for a solid SX base setting
- no bogging
You guys clearly haven't rode a fuel injected 300 bike, then add 50cc. So, you get smooth power for slick tracks, you get electric start, no bogging. Keep trying to make 4 strokes something that can't be done on anything else. 350 current 2 stroke would be better. Not that you'd need it, but you'd also be able to have all the electronic "trickery"
Correct on testing, sure. It would be new, like Henry's 400 was.
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
BroFoSho wrote:
Few things the 450f would still have... - electric start - electronic "trickery" to move power around (and for launch control) - hundreds of hours of...
Few things the 450f would still have...

- electric start
- electronic "trickery" to move power around (and for launch control)
- hundreds of hours of testing for a solid SX base setting
- no bogging
miedosoracing1 wrote:
You guys clearly haven't rode a fuel injected 300 bike, then add 50cc. So, you get smooth power for slick tracks, you get electric start, no...
You guys clearly haven't rode a fuel injected 300 bike, then add 50cc. So, you get smooth power for slick tracks, you get electric start, no bogging. Keep trying to make 4 strokes something that can't be done on anything else. 350 current 2 stroke would be better. Not that you'd need it, but you'd also be able to have all the electronic "trickery"
Correct on testing, sure. It would be new, like Henry's 400 was.
Who makes this 300cc efi MOTOCROSS bike you speak of?
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miedosoracing1 4/22/2020 6:39pm
4/22/2020 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/22/2020 7:07pm
miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
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Put the Kool Aid down mate. A 2 stroke, of any capacity, isn't helping him win against a career-prime Tomac, Roczen, Webb etc on fully dialed...
Put the Kool Aid down mate.

A 2 stroke, of any capacity, isn't helping him win against a career-prime Tomac, Roczen, Webb etc on fully dialed factory 450s.

Holeshot and lead a lap or 2, maybe, but that's 100% skill and 0% bike choice.
I'll probably tend to agree on that, yet mud, or something like a pileup could make me say, "don't say never."
A 350 2 stroke could be better or worse on the start. Hard to say. That may not be rider, if it's easier on 1 bike or another. I know my 150 pulled 250f's for about 3 gears, then they just drove past me.
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Not done but NEEDS TO BE DONE should be considered
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
Wow

Put the pipe down
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
It's the only brand left out of the big 6 he hasn't qualified for a main event with.
I’m Putting it out there. He pulls a top 5 in those last 7 rounds on a ktm 450: ....
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
It's the only brand left out of the big 6 he hasn't qualified for a main event with.
Dougy1 wrote:
I’m Putting it out there. He pulls a top 5 in those last 7 rounds on a ktm 450: ....
Let me put it out there...you need to have your medications checked.
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BroFoSho 4/23/2020 9:07am
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The only way Chad rides a two-stroke in the main event is if Feld just pre-seeds the top 22 in points and there are no qualifying or heat races.

Then I give it a 2% chance he rides a two-stroke.
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Spooner 4/23/2020 10:07am
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CPR wrote:
Who makes this 300cc efi MOTOCROSS bike you speak of?
Considering the 300xc is the same frame (other than kickstand mount) as the 250sx I'd say it wouldn't be that hard to make a TPI 300sx.
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burn1986 4/23/2020 11:49am
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burn1986 wrote:
They need to let Chad ride a 300 2s or 350. I know, old argument, but still... But They (DC, Feld, etc) would fight this until...
They need to let Chad ride a 300 2s or 350. I know, old argument, but still...

But They (DC, Feld, etc) would fight this until their dying breath
mxb2 wrote:
Maybe chad doesnt want to race one?
I was only saying that because there was a hint about him riding one. Obviously any rider would be a fool to ride one in Pro racing, because it is a guaranteed fail with the current rules.
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burn1986 wrote:
They need to let Chad ride a 300 2s or 350. I know, old argument, but still... But They (DC, Feld, etc) would fight this until...
They need to let Chad ride a 300 2s or 350. I know, old argument, but still...

But They (DC, Feld, etc) would fight this until their dying breath
mxb2 wrote:
Maybe chad doesnt want to race one?
burn1986 wrote:
I was only saying that because there was a hint about him riding one. Obviously any rider would be a fool to ride one in Pro...
I was only saying that because there was a hint about him riding one. Obviously any rider would be a fool to ride one in Pro racing, because it is a guaranteed fail with the current rules.
Where,.? I guess i missed it.
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tek14 wrote:
Now on KTM.. did Honda cut him like they did Seely or just wasnt feeling it with Honda?
haha! What are you talking about? Chad BUILT honday.
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burn1986 4/23/2020 12:23pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Where,.? I guess i missed it.
Does it matter? There’s a two stroke in the picture and people were talking about. You one of those sour posters that only wants to argue anyway. Maybe you can search it out and get me on something :/
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mxb2 4/23/2020 12:25pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Where,.? I guess i missed it.
burn1986 wrote:
Does it matter? There’s a two stroke in the picture and people were talking about. You one of those sour posters that only wants to argue...
Does it matter? There’s a two stroke in the picture and people were talking about. You one of those sour posters that only wants to argue anyway. Maybe you can search it out and get me on something :/
Lol, okay. .he posted a 2 stroke. Yea. He will race it. Happy now. No arguing, i asked. for info.
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burn1986 4/23/2020 1:08pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Lol, okay. .he posted a 2 stroke. Yea. He will race it. Happy now. No arguing, i asked. for info.
Okay, a little over the top on my reply. But heck, most of the thread is about Chad and his 2-stroke, and racing it.
jorgechavez 4/23/2020 1:13pm
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burn1986 wrote:
They need to let Chad ride a 300 2s or 350. I know, old argument, but still... But They (DC, Feld, etc) would fight this until...
They need to let Chad ride a 300 2s or 350. I know, old argument, but still...

But They (DC, Feld, etc) would fight this until their dying breath
They (DC and FELD) likely don’t have much control over it as the AMA is the one who makes the rules.

I don’t know why whenever something like this is brought up people like to act as if there is a conscious effort from the promoters to stop it. It’s just part of the damn rules, something the promoters have no control over.
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Nothing like a good ole 2-stroke Taliban dream session to entertain! Dizzy Woohoo Huh
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NOT saying he'd do as well on a 2-stroke but my personal 250 2-smoke doesn't even bog and it's tuned by me/ridden by me. He's already finishing far back, I bet he'd still qualify on a 2smoke if I had to guess.
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Lightning78 4/23/2020 3:34pm
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
If they would let him line up with something more fair, he'd qualify. Say a 300 modded sx... You know, give the magical 1 year homo...
If they would let him line up with something more fair, he'd qualify. Say a 300 modded sx... You know, give the magical 1 year homo 4 choke rule.

By the way, still stand by the point. A 350 current 2 stroke would never be touched again by any size 4 stroke.
He wouldnt be able to qualify on any 2 stroke....not even Webb's factory built KTM300sx....I'm sorry but it's a reality. Post qualifying race interviews would have a bevy of reasons highlighted by "if I had more time to test and develop the bike"
"There were parts I asked for but couldnt get"

I feel like sometimes he psychs himself out analyzing every minor detail as hes gotten older rather than just shutting off the thoughts analyzing the bike like "if I had this I'd be better, more competitive and more comfortable" mentality and just ride the bike like hes at a practice track having fun.
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miedosoracing1 4/23/2020 4:16pm
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Lightning78 wrote:
He wouldnt be able to qualify on any 2 stroke....not even Webb's factory built KTM300sx....I'm sorry but it's a reality. Post qualifying race interviews would have...
He wouldnt be able to qualify on any 2 stroke....not even Webb's factory built KTM300sx....I'm sorry but it's a reality. Post qualifying race interviews would have a bevy of reasons highlighted by "if I had more time to test and develop the bike"
"There were parts I asked for but couldnt get"

I feel like sometimes he psychs himself out analyzing every minor detail as hes gotten older rather than just shutting off the thoughts analyzing the bike like "if I had this I'd be better, more competitive and more comfortable" mentality and just ride the bike like hes at a practice track having fun.
That being said. It would be cool seeing a magazine test of Webbs 300sx vs his 450sxf in a sx track. Just to hear what benefits each would have over one another. If everyone thinks Chad can't qualify, why won't the powers that be, give him the option? What would it really hurt, letting 300cc in? If it's so slow, what's the problem?
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soggy wrote:
no way he could qualify on a two stroke if he had too....Whistling
I remember more than a few on here said he wouldnt even qualify for the mains this year too.....LCQ Doesnt matter, the main is the main!
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Lightning78 wrote:
He wouldnt be able to qualify on any 2 stroke....not even Webb's factory built KTM300sx....I'm sorry but it's a reality. Post qualifying race interviews would have...
He wouldnt be able to qualify on any 2 stroke....not even Webb's factory built KTM300sx....I'm sorry but it's a reality. Post qualifying race interviews would have a bevy of reasons highlighted by "if I had more time to test and develop the bike"
"There were parts I asked for but couldnt get"

I feel like sometimes he psychs himself out analyzing every minor detail as hes gotten older rather than just shutting off the thoughts analyzing the bike like "if I had this I'd be better, more competitive and more comfortable" mentality and just ride the bike like hes at a practice track having fun.
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That being said. It would be cool seeing a magazine test of Webbs 300sx vs his 450sxf in a sx track. Just to hear what benefits...
That being said. It would be cool seeing a magazine test of Webbs 300sx vs his 450sxf in a sx track. Just to hear what benefits each would have over one another. If everyone thinks Chad can't qualify, why won't the powers that be, give him the option? What would it really hurt, letting 300cc in? If it's so slow, what's the problem?
They arent changing the rules is why. If he wants to race a 2 stroke. , He can, when canada and europe start lol.
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
Tony ESR325, is that you?
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
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Tony ESR325, is that you?
Laughing
Those are word for word the same claims that clown Tony made. I wouldn't be surprised it it is him
miedosoracing1 4/24/2020 12:37pm
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than...
I'd bet he wouldn't. He knows how nostalgic mx fans are. Going out with a new 350sx 2 stroke from KTM, would get more likes than Eli winning every race. Plus, if it was a better bike, and he won on it. Game over. Thus, won't happen via the black helicopters...

A 350 2 stroke would have everything a 450f has, plus lighter and no engine braking weight feeling. A 450f doesn't have any advantage. No extra low end, no extra smoothness, nothing. 2 stroke would cut right underneath a 450f, then power away.
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Tony ESR325, is that you?
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zehn wrote:
Those are word for word the same claims that clown Tony made. I wouldn't be surprised it it is him
Makes me a little curious... Everyone here long term knows who I am. Curious who the other person is now.
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canciaro 4/24/2020 1:10pm
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Has anyone ever taken a look at this compound that Chads been riding at today? Place is legit, I cant believe this is all for that little kid on a KTM that TLD has been putting money into. Damn


Dirtydeeds 4/24/2020 2:21pm
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If it ever continues looks like he will be on a different bike.

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If it ever continues looks like he will be on a different bike. View this post on Instagram Is it time for SX? I’m ready and...
If it ever continues looks like he will be on a different bike.

Can't be. MXA are never wrong
https://motocrossactionmag.com/skippys-last-ride-inside-chad-reeds-mountain-motorsports-crf450-video/
Different suspension mob too
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