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3/22/2020 1:38am
MOTO1313 wrote:
Basically less than a month into this and Feld lays off 90% of its employees? NINETY friggin percent? What a horseshit company. Fuck Feld.
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set them on the sidelines. And people think there's not an ignore button here... Smile
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3/22/2020 2:51am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2020 2:51am
Ughhh.... You know that wasn't an easy move to make.

Your signature Indian Dunes and Indian artwork was drawn by my dad, Gary Lamb. He's unfortunately gone now but was park manager from early '70's through when it closed. He drew and did the silkscreens for all their shirts, many of CRC's shirts and AME's.

Just awesome seeing it. I have the original's for that one in my garage somewhere.
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3/22/2020 8:44am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2020 8:44am
Your signature Indian Dunes and Indian artwork was drawn by my dad, Gary Lamb. He's unfortunately gone now but was park manager from early '70's through...
Your signature Indian Dunes and Indian artwork was drawn by my dad, Gary Lamb. He's unfortunately gone now but was park manager from early '70's through when it closed. He drew and did the silkscreens for all their shirts, many of CRC's shirts and AME's.

Just awesome seeing it. I have the original's for that one in my garage somewhere.
That is so cool! I scanned the artwork from one of my old CRC race results pamphlets. I always loved that logo font style and of course the Indian (which would probably not see the light of day in todays over-PCness). Thanks so much for sharing your dads story!
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I have a friend who skated for Disney on Ice. She and all her other fellow skaters found out the news from the press. Not one...
I have a friend who skated for Disney on Ice. She and all her other fellow skaters found out the news from the press. Not one notification by email or any of her higher ups. Sad deal.
Same goes for some of their monster truck drivers....
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3/22/2020 9:08am
MOTO1313 wrote:
Basically less than a month into this and Feld lays off 90% of its employees? NINETY friggin percent? What a horseshit company. Fuck Feld.
lostboy819 wrote:
Are you just stupid or do you have a mental disability of some sort ? No money coming in means no money to go out. When...
Are you just stupid or do you have a mental disability of some sort ? No money coming in means no money to go out. When they can start putting on races and shows again then they will bring back employees and this way the laid off employees can get unemployment so they have some cash flow until things start getting back to normal.
MOTO1313 wrote:
I'm a CPA dude. So, people better hope I don't have a mental disability. My point was... it was REAL fast to dump 90% of its...
I'm a CPA dude. So, people better hope I don't have a mental disability. My point was... it was REAL fast to dump 90% of its employees for a company as big as FELD and some (most) employees didn't even know they were let go from FELD until they found out third hand. FELD is a shit company for doing what and how they did it. Get it genius??? Now...I'm just throwing out a word...it means nothing to anyone except one person. FUCKTARD.
Many companies are taking action as quickly as they can. My company laid off 9 out of 12 of my sales team. We are a cash flow business and sell to the restaurant, retail and hospitality biz primarily. If they did not take measures such as this it would greatly reduce their ability to come out of this crisis somewhat intact. The hope is if we reduce our costs as quick as possible we may survive and be in a situation where we can rehire our staff when demand comes back. The remaining staff are working their asses off so that we have some hope of bringing our colleagues and friends back. I am working a customer service shift today and also did on Friday. I am 100% commission so as grateful as I am to still have a job, I have no idea how much longer I will have an income. Our main concern right now is limiting our risk exposure to our current receivables owed. Many of our customers will not survive this and we will not get paid.
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3/22/2020 9:46am
MOTO1313 wrote:
Basically less than a month into this and Feld lays off 90% of its employees? NINETY friggin percent? What a horseshit company. Fuck Feld.
GuyB wrote:
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set...
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set them on the sidelines. And people think there's not an ignore button here... Smile
I agree with his comment, other than I try not to swear so I will say screw FELD. Shame on me for looking down on FELD???
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3/22/2020 10:27am
mx 219 wrote:
I agree with his comment, other than I try not to swear so I will say screw FELD. Shame on me for looking down on FELD???
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on a good show.
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3/22/2020 10:32am
I'm a CPA

Source: dude just trust me
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3/22/2020 10:40am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2020 10:41am
mx 219 wrote:
I agree with his comment, other than I try not to swear so I will say screw FELD. Shame on me for looking down on FELD???
lostboy819 wrote:
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on...
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on a good show.
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them.

They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont care who the employer is i think that is terrible. It shows either poor management, greed, or both.
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3/22/2020 10:54am
mx 219 wrote:
I agree with his comment, other than I try not to swear so I will say screw FELD. Shame on me for looking down on FELD???
lostboy819 wrote:
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on...
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on a good show.
mx 219 wrote:
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them. They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont...
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them.

They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont care who the employer is i think that is terrible. It shows either poor management, greed, or both.
Not really. It shows that currently their entire business is forced to be shut down and they can't put the employees to work. They kept as many as they could and cut the rest loose. Without being able to put on shows and events their business is at a standstill. What are they supposed to do? Let however many employees clock in and stand in the corporate parking lot for 8 hr days and pay them for standing there? Theres no work in their line of business.
3/22/2020 11:00am
mx 219 wrote:
I agree with his comment, other than I try not to swear so I will say screw FELD. Shame on me for looking down on FELD???
lostboy819 wrote:
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on...
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on a good show.
mx 219 wrote:
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them. They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont...
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them.

They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont care who the employer is i think that is terrible. It shows either poor management, greed, or both.
So your opinion is purely emotional and based on hearsay on things that have no effect on you to begin with................. ok Blush
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3/22/2020 11:02am
Out of curiosity, how long do you think Feld's capital would last if they continued to pay employee's?
When the economy does come back, will they have enough money to restart, "business as usual"?

I have a farming background. 4 months out of the year we make money, 12 months out of the year we spend money. A storm at the wrong time will ruin those 4 months. This storm for Feld can ruin them, have to do what they have to do so they can come back when things get back on track. We still don't know if it'll get back on track this year. Can't continue to pay people and hope for the best, that's bad business.
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3/22/2020 11:17am
mx 219 wrote:
I agree with his comment, other than I try not to swear so I will say screw FELD. Shame on me for looking down on FELD???
lostboy819 wrote:
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on...
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on a good show.
mx 219 wrote:
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them. They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont...
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them.

They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont care who the employer is i think that is terrible. It shows either poor management, greed, or both.
This is definitely coming from someone who knows zero about business. They have lost all revenue sources, laid off their largest expense who can now get immediate unemployment, and they have no idea how long this will last.

Everyone commenting about their "profits" are just ignorant without any knowledge of their business/expenses/cost of goods sold. They are just assuming they make piles of cash and hoard it all from privateers who choose to race on their own dime.

How much cash do you think they have to continue to pay everyone with zero income? 1 month? 2 months? 6 months? None of us including Feld know how long this will last or how bad it will get. Do you want them to bankrupt?
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3/22/2020 11:21am
lostboy819 wrote:
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on...
So what has Feld done to you or why do you look down on Feld? I think they do a damn good job and put on a good show.
mx 219 wrote:
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them. They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont...
They didnt have to do anything to me for me to look down on them.

They laid off 90% of their employees that quickly. I dont care who the employer is i think that is terrible. It shows either poor management, greed, or both.
lostboy819 wrote:
So your opinion is purely emotional and based on hearsay on things that have no effect on you to begin with................. ok Blush
Why does it have to affect me for me to look negatively on them?

I get that their business is largely affected by what is going on. I guess my initial reaction was 90% is an extremely high number, but with them being entertainers I can see that after putting more thought into it
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3/22/2020 11:58am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2020 12:00pm
You realize Feld, is closed (for the most part).

Period.

Almost all of their staff works on the road at events. If there are no events, there is no income. You're closed.

Like the local restaurant down the street, no business due to quarantine, no income, you close doors.

Feld supposed to just pay people for an unknown amout of time, maybe months, as they sit at home doing nothing?

So the guy who skates in the dinosaur costume for Jurassic Park on Ice is to just stay home and Feld is to just keep paying them? What smart business is that?

You do realize Feld is likely losing millions of dollars a week or so, even as we sit here, because they pay for so much in advance, which is all now lost.

Feld is not the evil one here....
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3/22/2020 1:40pm
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors?

Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue a 60 day WARN notice so the people laid off have a decent severance.

Does anyone know the law of bankruptcy or closing a company to avoid paying severance?
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3/22/2020 1:49pm
Bruce372 wrote:
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors? Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue...
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors?

Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue a 60 day WARN notice so the people laid off have a decent severance.

Does anyone know the law of bankruptcy or closing a company to avoid paying severance?
Depends on jurisdiction. You don’t need to issue any notice to lay people off.
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3/22/2020 1:56pm
Bruce372 wrote:
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors? Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue...
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors?

Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue a 60 day WARN notice so the people laid off have a decent severance.

Does anyone know the law of bankruptcy or closing a company to avoid paying severance?
No one said they were bankrupt or out of business
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Bruce372 wrote:
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors? Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue...
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors?

Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue a 60 day WARN notice so the people laid off have a decent severance.

Does anyone know the law of bankruptcy or closing a company to avoid paying severance?
EngIceDave wrote:
No one said they were bankrupt or out of business
It was a generic question, I am wondering how many companies will just go bankrupt and pocketing the cash to the execs.

Many drug companies did this after the opioid verdicts, they stashed all the cash and then went bankrupt to avoid the fines.

Anyone remember Enron and Anderson consulting? Many employees showed up to find the offices were chained shut.
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3/22/2020 2:17pm
But those were fraud issues
That is not the case here
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Bruce372 wrote:
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors? Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue...
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors?

Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue a 60 day WARN notice so the people laid off have a decent severance.

Does anyone know the law of bankruptcy or closing a company to avoid paying severance?
EngIceDave wrote:
No one said they were bankrupt or out of business
Bruce372 wrote:
It was a generic question, I am wondering how many companies will just go bankrupt and pocketing the cash to the execs. Many drug companies did...
It was a generic question, I am wondering how many companies will just go bankrupt and pocketing the cash to the execs.

Many drug companies did this after the opioid verdicts, they stashed all the cash and then went bankrupt to avoid the fines.

Anyone remember Enron and Anderson consulting? Many employees showed up to find the offices were chained shut.
My company owes me $10k in vacation pay, it is definitely a concern for me and I am having a discussion with my VP about it tomorrow. No doubt some employees are inevitably going to be left high and dry.
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3/22/2020 2:25pm
MOTO1313 wrote:
Basically less than a month into this and Feld lays off 90% of its employees? NINETY friggin percent? What a horseshit company. Fuck Feld.
GuyB wrote:
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set...
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set them on the sidelines. And people think there's not an ignore button here... Smile
"community" ?

... I'll take self-absorbed misanthropes for a thousand, Alex.


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EngIceDave wrote:
But those were fraud issues
That is not the case here
No one said that was the case here.
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3/22/2020 2:48pm
Sideways wrote:
All across the world. Same things are happening in sweden. Volvo are letting go of 20.000 employees today. This is crazy and not sure how i...
All across the world. Same things are happening in sweden. Volvo are letting go of 20.000 employees today.

This is crazy and not sure how i feel about all this. One side of me thinks this quarantinen is bull shit, this is not worse than the flu.

Another part of me thinks this might be necessary.
Ray_MXS wrote:
Volvo did not let 20 000 people go. Stop spreading misinformation
Thank you, Volvo cut factory production, which 'affects 20,000 workers' not 'let them go'. Read the news @sideways, and don't let it be fox.
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I'd say 90% of the the Entertainment industry just got let go the last two weeks. Between union and non-union affiliated employee's, caterers, local restaurants that made the bulk of their income on our shows ordering lunch in everyday, estimates are about 400-600k are out of income. This industry supports almost every single aspect of life in Los Angeles in one way or another.
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3/22/2020 4:56pm
MOTO1313 wrote:
Basically less than a month into this and Feld lays off 90% of its employees? NINETY friggin percent? What a horseshit company. Fuck Feld.
GuyB wrote:
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set...
You know, I like our little community. I like it even better when I can take the people who don't play well with others and set them on the sidelines. And people think there's not an ignore button here... Smile
number six wrote:
"community" ?

... I'll take self-absorbed misanthropes for a thousand, Alex.


I'll take, "I bet this account doesn't last week for a thousand, Alex."
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3/22/2020 5:24pm
I will say it again, Feld does a damn good job with the SX series and it sucks that they have had to lay off their workforce like so many others, but I also think they will be back and get things rolling for us again as soon as possible and for the record, I think Ralph does a very good job also. Cool
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3/22/2020 6:09pm
MOTO1313 wrote:
FE had over $1B in revue last year alone. And they dump 90% of their employees. Real family entertainment company.
Revenue or profit? Big difference.
3/22/2020 6:11pm
Bruce372 wrote:
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors? Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue...
I wonder how many of their employees were actual real employees and not independent contractors?

Surely they must have more then 100 FTE and so issue a 60 day WARN notice so the people laid off have a decent severance.

Does anyone know the law of bankruptcy or closing a company to avoid paying severance?
EngIceDave wrote:
No one said they were bankrupt or out of business
Bruce372 wrote:
It was a generic question, I am wondering how many companies will just go bankrupt and pocketing the cash to the execs. Many drug companies did...
It was a generic question, I am wondering how many companies will just go bankrupt and pocketing the cash to the execs.

Many drug companies did this after the opioid verdicts, they stashed all the cash and then went bankrupt to avoid the fines.

Anyone remember Enron and Anderson consulting? Many employees showed up to find the offices were chained shut.
Most execs are just hired guns. They do not OWN much of the company. The drug company cases you are talking about were where the OWNERS of the company moved money around to protect themselves and sacrifice the company.
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3/22/2020 6:27pm
What’s wrong with the payed off employees getting unemployment?

Did they actually lay off employees or were they “sub-contract labor”? Big difference

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