Malcom's fitness

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2/16/2020 7:24am
Yeah friese is interesting. He starts out front with tomac and by the end of the race he ends up lapped.
I think that track was way more physically demanding than people thought maybe?
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2/16/2020 7:39am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 7:41am
Its awesome to hear keyboard warriors tell a guy who ran up front, then "dropped" to 7th place against the best in the world, what he...
Its awesome to hear keyboard warriors tell a guy who ran up front, then "dropped" to 7th place against the best in the world, what he should do. Malcolm looked good, but i'm sure he has a handle on what he needs to do.



This type of comment doesn't belong here. Do you even lift, brah? This is sarcasm beofre anyone gets their panities twisted.
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2/16/2020 7:41am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 8:42am
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Yeah friese is interesting. He starts out front with tomac and by the end of the race he ends up lapped. I think that track was...
Yeah friese is interesting. He starts out front with tomac and by the end of the race he ends up lapped.
I think that track was way more physically demanding than people thought maybe?
Friese is battling for every position doing what he is now, which is great for where he is, and more fitness may net him an additional position, but more lap speed speed would net him three positions.

Malcolm has showed he has podium speed (easily keeping pace with Tomac in heat), if he can keep pace through a race.

My guess: you line them up on the treadmill and Vince wins 10 out of 10 races. You line them up on the track and Malcolm wins 10 out of 10. And that simple exercise shows what both athletes are missing, and where their focus should be.
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2/16/2020 8:33am
Mookie is a likable rider that has certainly had to walk in some big shoes.

Maybe there is a reason that he never scored a top level ride after winning the 250 sx title.

He has had plenty of chances to step up his game but has never seemed to step up his fitness to be the contender some think he could be.

Clock is ticking. Soon it will be "what might have been" instead of "what could be".
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2/16/2020 8:49am
JustMX wrote:
Mookie is a likable rider that has certainly had to walk in some big shoes. Maybe there is a reason that he never scored a top...
Mookie is a likable rider that has certainly had to walk in some big shoes.

Maybe there is a reason that he never scored a top level ride after winning the 250 sx title.

He has had plenty of chances to step up his game but has never seemed to step up his fitness to be the contender some think he could be.

Clock is ticking. Soon it will be "what might have been" instead of "what could be".
This I kind of disagree on.

He really has stepped up his fitness, and is now a legit top 10 guy (Currently 7th in points). I just think everyone recognizes that his ceiling is crazy high.
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2/16/2020 8:53am
classic case of arm pump if you ask me
He'll do much better the next time he runs up front
2/16/2020 9:12am
kkawboy14 wrote:
Malcolm is in 14 minutes of riding shape and AC is in 16 minutes.....they can get better this year!
I don't think fitness is a problem for these guys. They have no problem running at race speeds for 20 minutes. In my opinion, it has more to do with track changes, and the pressure of having a lot of fast guys all trying to gain a position. One small mistake is all it takes to lose some positions, and break a rider's concentration.
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2/16/2020 9:30am
Everyone is talking about Malcom's poor fitness after he made a last turn pass on the 2018 champion! Am I missing something here?
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2/16/2020 9:32am
If you look at his lap times, he had 11 laps that were at least 2 1/2 seconds slower than his fastest lap.Of those 11 laps 5 of them were 4 seconds or more slower than his best lap time. There are all kinds of reasons why,it is not unreasonable to think fitness is one of them.
With that being said,I am impressed with his progress, and i think he will continue to improve.
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2/16/2020 9:32am
Tmick wrote:
Nothing is going on with his fitness... better to finish the race then to get hurt...
He literally said in a post race interview it was his fitness and he got tired
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2/16/2020 10:36am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 10:37am
Motoxdoc wrote:
Everyone is talking about Malcom's poor fitness after he made a last turn pass on the 2018 champion! Am I missing something here?
Yes, you are missing that he is riding longer on more beat-up tracks, facing tougher competition (and a full field of it, not half), and that fitness will be a major difference-maker in this class.
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2/16/2020 10:42am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 11:06am
JustMX wrote:
Mookie is a likable rider that has certainly had to walk in some big shoes. Maybe there is a reason that he never scored a top...
Mookie is a likable rider that has certainly had to walk in some big shoes.

Maybe there is a reason that he never scored a top level ride after winning the 250 sx title.

He has had plenty of chances to step up his game but has never seemed to step up his fitness to be the contender some think he could be.

Clock is ticking. Soon it will be "what might have been" instead of "what could be".
This is the absolute definition of a couch racer.

"clock is ticking" as if there is a list of riders who can ride that pace for even one lap, let alone 25+ laps.

Clearly the dude is in top notch shape, it's fucking tough to keep your heart rate down, not make mistakes, not hold your breath, not hold on too tight etc. I have spent a TON of time at the test tracks with top guys. They put in their work during the week, kill every lap of their motos, run in front of guys that win then the weekend rolls around and they're not even close at the end of a 20 minute main. It's fucking TOUGH to put it together one main, let alone every weekend.

Maybe this is an indication of how tough it is to win a 450 SX main. Either that or he needs to retire lol.
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2/16/2020 10:43am
Tmick wrote:
Nothing is going on with his fitness... better to finish the race then to get hurt...
He literally said in a post race interview it was his fitness and he got tired
Come on man, stop with facts.
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2/16/2020 10:46am
Is it me or is it kind of pathetic that some of these guys dont have fitness down better. I mean. They are paid to train, practice and race and it only lasts so long before you are replacable.

I like Mookie a lot, great personality and speed, but he has underwhelmed and I dont expect it to change. If it was going to it would have by now. Yes, he has gotten better, but his potential is for podiums and top fives yet he is often around 10th place.
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2/16/2020 10:50am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 11:06am
mx 219 wrote:
Is it me or is it kind of pathetic that some of these guys dont have fitness down better. I mean. They are paid to train...
Is it me or is it kind of pathetic that some of these guys dont have fitness down better. I mean. They are paid to train, practice and race and it only lasts so long before you are replacable.

I like Mookie a lot, great personality and speed, but he has underwhelmed and I dont expect it to change. If it was going to it would have by now. Yes, he has gotten better, but his potential is for podiums and top fives yet he is often around 10th place.
Yeah, It's you. You have to realize: Malcolm is really fit compared to 99%+ of the planet. What he is not, is more fit than a few of the other top guys.

Training at the level of a top athlete is hard. Many are training very hard. Some have the talent. Some have the determination. Some have both in tandem. But that's very few. Mind blower: there will never be more than five top five guys, no matter how hard the top 10 works.
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2/16/2020 10:50am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 11:11am
mx 219 wrote:
Is it me or is it kind of pathetic that some of these guys dont have fitness down better. I mean. They are paid to train...
Is it me or is it kind of pathetic that some of these guys dont have fitness down better. I mean. They are paid to train, practice and race and it only lasts so long before you are replacable.

I like Mookie a lot, great personality and speed, but he has underwhelmed and I dont expect it to change. If it was going to it would have by now. Yes, he has gotten better, but his potential is for podiums and top fives yet he is often around 10th place.
Yeah bro, he spends his weekdays at home eating pizza and drinking beer while everyone else trains. That's it.

Posts like these confirm how far the general fan is away from understanding what it takes to perform at the highest level of this sport. The dude who qualified 55th or 68th in the 250 class this weekend and watched from the stands is FIT.

But putting it all together - not making mistakes, breathing properly, not holding on to tight, pushing through jumps etc is a whole different story. Some guys figure it out immediately though intelligence, talent, determination etc. Others it takes a bit more trial and error. And most that try never figure it out.

Then, there's the people who watch from the stands or couch that like to think they have it all figured out and spout out diarrhea all over the internet like it's the gospel.

I don't understand why people choose to come on here to condemn riders rather than appreciate them for the time they put into their craft. I spend a lot of time with some of these dudes on and off the bike. Every decision they make is based around what will benefit their race results.
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2/16/2020 11:03am
From what I've seen...all these guys are raw hide and sprung steel. Muscle and sinew. Fantastic athletes.
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2/16/2020 12:00pm
Tmick wrote:
Nothing is going on with his fitness... better to finish the race then to get hurt...
He literally said in a post race interview it was his fitness and he got tired
Ahhh, the truth comes out.... @ 1:57 in the video

Imagine that, a professional rider admitting he hit a fucking wall with fitness and simply got tired out there. He didn't make one excuse about arm pump or his bike setup, I like him even more now.

Now he knows he needs to train harder to run up front so let's see how his season progresses. Can't wait to see what he can do at the triple crown with short mains next weekend.

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2/16/2020 12:01pm
Running 15min with worlds fastest Supercross rider makes you feel you are tired last 5minutes. I dont know if he should have eased his pace at heat to save little energy. Like JS7 said he is not ready to win yet but fight top5 results is his goal now. Great ride and fun to watch him at track.
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2/16/2020 12:03pm
Motoxdoc wrote:
Everyone is talking about Malcom's poor fitness after he made a last turn pass on the 2018 champion! Am I missing something here?
Yes, see the video above. It's a fitness problem.
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2/16/2020 12:07pm
Yes, see the video above. It's a fitness problem.
Yes, see the video above. It's a fitness problem.
If you honestly think that he will be training "harder", I don't know what to tell you.

There are so many pieces to the puzzle to having a perfect program. To assume it's from a lack of work is just plain wrong. Each athlete/body needs specific things to work perfectly for SX. He is in the process of finding what works and what doesn't. Hell, it could be more REST and less grinding off the bike during the week. I've seen that make a hige difference for riders.

Relax with assuming he's eating Dorito's while everyone else is doing Ironman Marathons.
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2/16/2020 12:29pm
Yes, see the video above. It's a fitness problem.
Yes, see the video above. It's a fitness problem.
Kyle978 wrote:
If you honestly think that he will be training "harder", I don't know what to tell you. There are so many pieces to the puzzle to...
If you honestly think that he will be training "harder", I don't know what to tell you.

There are so many pieces to the puzzle to having a perfect program. To assume it's from a lack of work is just plain wrong. Each athlete/body needs specific things to work perfectly for SX. He is in the process of finding what works and what doesn't. Hell, it could be more REST and less grinding off the bike during the week. I've seen that make a hige difference for riders.

Relax with assuming he's eating Dorito's while everyone else is doing Ironman Marathons.

Never once did I say Malcom was eating Doritos you dipshit. I made an observation and asked about Malcom's fitness as it appears to me he can improve in that area. Next thing you know people are saying his fitness is fine, he knows what he's doing, it was arm pump, and I'm a keyboard warrior who doesn't know what I'm talking about, etc...

And then Malcom comes online and puts it to rest. It's his fucking fitness. I questioned it, he confirmed it. You don't have to like his very honest response in the video, but I do.

I think we all know fitness consists of many key components including rest and recovery, so you can save that for all the pro riders you train. You should start your own Aldon Baker factory if you haven't already.
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2/16/2020 12:35pm
Malcolm had me cheering for him hard this morning when I got a chance to watch the races. Wanted him to take 3rd so bad! But on the fitness thing?? I think he's in great shape for a 20 min main , I think why he falls back a little bit here and there are just from little mistakes. couple 10th's here , 1/2 sec here , , little mistakes that just add up over 20mins. Maybe a " little bit " of a fitness issue , but I don't see him actually fading , I see little mistakes here and there , and needs to sharpen his race craft a bit. Just my opinion anyways.
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2/16/2020 12:54pm
Here's a thought...Maybe Malcolm is already at his peak fitness level? Contrary to what people want to believe, there is no infinite ceiling to ones personal fitness level. There is a defined limit that each each person can physically achieve, and everyone is different. Maybe he can never get to where Eli, Cooper, or even his brother were in terms of fitness?
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2/16/2020 1:03pm
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Malcolm had me cheering for him hard this morning when I got a chance to watch the races. Wanted him to take 3rd so bad! But...
Malcolm had me cheering for him hard this morning when I got a chance to watch the races. Wanted him to take 3rd so bad! But on the fitness thing?? I think he's in great shape for a 20 min main , I think why he falls back a little bit here and there are just from little mistakes. couple 10th's here , 1/2 sec here , , little mistakes that just add up over 20mins. Maybe a " little bit " of a fitness issue , but I don't see him actually fading , I see little mistakes here and there , and needs to sharpen his race craft a bit. Just my opinion anyways.
He was struggling physically, which of course leads to mistakes.
2/16/2020 1:07pm Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 1:09pm
KHI Guy wrote:
Here's a thought...Maybe Malcolm is already at his peak fitness level? Contrary to what people want to believe, there is no infinite ceiling to ones personal...
Here's a thought...Maybe Malcolm is already at his peak fitness level? Contrary to what people want to believe, there is no infinite ceiling to ones personal fitness level. There is a defined limit that each each person can physically achieve, and everyone is different. Maybe he can never get to where Eli, Cooper, or even his brother were in terms of fitness?
I doubt it.

He was visibly out of shape 2 years ago. His conditioning and results have improved dramatically since then, and he isn't showing any signs of plateuing yet. He is noticeably getting better and is more competitive later into the race each time he lines up. Whatever he is doing is working -- the progress just needs to continue.
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2/16/2020 1:17pm
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2/16/2020 1:33pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
Well....RC looks to be in his best shape ever!
I wondered if RC has had the stomach surgery. He is looking fit.. A few friends have had it done and their lives are so much better now.
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2/16/2020 1:45pm
Motofinne wrote:
It's kind of easy to part out who has raced and who has not. Mookie was probably going 110% in the first 15 minutes to keep...
It's kind of easy to part out who has raced and who has not.

Mookie was probably going 110% in the first 15 minutes to keep up with those top guys for the first time in over 1 year. It's completely normal to get tired in the last few laps in his case. The next time he will be able to keep up that speed longer.

Anyone that has raced would know that.
I agree 100 percent.
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2/16/2020 2:08pm Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 2:09pm
Never once did I say Malcom was eating Doritos you dipshit. I made an observation and asked about Malcom's fitness as it appears to me he...

Never once did I say Malcom was eating Doritos you dipshit. I made an observation and asked about Malcom's fitness as it appears to me he can improve in that area. Next thing you know people are saying his fitness is fine, he knows what he's doing, it was arm pump, and I'm a keyboard warrior who doesn't know what I'm talking about, etc...

And then Malcom comes online and puts it to rest. It's his fucking fitness. I questioned it, he confirmed it. You don't have to like his very honest response in the video, but I do.

I think we all know fitness consists of many key components including rest and recovery, so you can save that for all the pro riders you train. You should start your own Aldon Baker factory if you haven't already.
Confirmed, you're a fuckin' moron.

I do work with Aldon and his guys with recovery products like Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, Pulsed Electromagentic Field Therapy and Low Level Red Light Therapy.
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