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Based on what I know (not enought), I'm still wearing mine, but his C7 injury and him wearing a Leatt are of great interest for me and many others that put in our fait and cash in the Leatt.
Maybe his Leatt saved his neck, but the force on an extension impact would focus the energy on the area around the C7 vertebrae, and he got a fracture on the C7.
I'm wearing my Leatt outside my chest protector which is not optimal? but the same impact would in this case spread the energy on my chest protector and on my back protector (UFO style).
So the Leatt is still great it seems? but that neck plate needs to be bigger so the energy gets more spread? What's your thoughts?
Maybe his Leatt saved his neck, but the force on an extension impact would focus the energy on the area around the C7 vertebrae, and he got a fracture on the C7.
I'm wearing my Leatt outside my chest protector which is not optimal? but the same impact would in this case spread the energy on my chest protector and on my back protector (UFO style).
So the Leatt is still great it seems? but that neck plate needs to be bigger so the energy gets more spread? What's your thoughts?
We wear helmets.......Why do we still get concussions???
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Just an observation maybe not the fact.
I want all cards on the table that's all and maybe discussions like this makes the Leatt even safer!
you can get a concussion wearing a helmet
okay, yeah? think about what would happen if you werent wearing a helmet... dead?
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I've always thought the point of contact spots on the leatt were too small. lbs per square inch common sense says this is bad.
I havnt seen an alpinestars one in person, but it appears it would spread the load better.
I'm not arguing against them although I have been very vocal in people putting their faith in them and all the nonsense about how anyone who crashed while wearing one would be dead or paralyzed had they not been wearing a brace.
Remember the incidence of catastrophic spinal injuries before the Leatts and look at them now. I want to see the research if anyone has it. Someone has to have the data.
Didn't Mard DeReuver talk about a buddy of his that could penetrated by the same piece on the Leatt?
You do the research if you think these things haven't saved one from catastrophic injury.
You think both these companies just use crash test dummies instead of the millions of R&D dollars having imput from experts like orthopedic doctors, neurological specialist and so forth.....They just get an idea and use no science....your nuts.
Their names and reputations are on the line and it sure sounds like you think they both are out fleecing the riders that use them.
You must ride without a helmet.
What I was addressing is how everyone now says whenever someone crashes that their neckbrace saved them from a catastrophic injury. I hate that. Seriously, "dude, did you see Sammy crash? Yeah, if it wasn't for his Leatt he would be in a chair," or "He only broke his C7 and if he hadn't worn his brace he'd be toast." That's what I have a problem with.
What I am saying is that we need to look at the long term effectiveness of the braces and whether they are cutting down on the number of catastrophic injuries. I hear people all the time say a brace saved someone... well, how do you know? I mean, I know we are all personally involved and the mind wants to believe what it is wants to believe.
Show the research. Its not there and it can't be. Sure, they test it on dummies and because we don't all crash in controlled ways in controlled environments a direct correlation can't really be drawn. In theory, it sounds great. But in practical application, who knows. Only long term testing will let us know.
I give the companies kudos for trying to solve a serious issue and keep us safe, but don't fool yourself. There was an open market and a pool of consumers with disposable income.
I mean, if you know something (other than your assumptions), please let us know. I mean, give us scientific evidence other than what you want to believe.
i broke mine cause i landed square on top of my head..
and level you won't wear yours cause it wasn't comfortable? try livin in a chair champ
"he only broke his C7" what? thats what i broke! C7 or T1 or whatever is the level of paralysis!
I don't care what anyone says they should be compulsory
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