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People always suggest that SX goes to a 12 round schedule so I don’t see an issue in suggesting a 15 round GP schedule. Just a thought.
For the record I’m not saying the GP’s should change anything, they don’t have to accommodate the US in anyway. But I am a fan of facts and fact is the biggest change in either schedule since the last time the event fell on a good weekend for all, is the changes to the GP schedule.
It doesn't matter whether there's 15, 20 or 30 MXGP's. It doesn't affect the US based riders!
It only affects the US based riders if it wildly changes the date of the MXoN, which, as you agreed, it hasn't.
The difference between MXoN dates from 2004-2011 and 2012-2019 is on average, 3 days later..
The difference between the AMA Nationals finishing from 2004-2011 and 2012-2019 is on average, 14 days earlier.
The biggest change wasn't the MXGP schedule or the date of the MXoN, it was the AMA schedule. For a "fan of facts", it amazes me you can't see that. Jeeze, even your "good weekend for all" MXoN date back in 2011 reinforces this point, given that MXGP has finished closer (than the AMA Nationals) to that date every year since.
Ultimately, if Youthstream (or the new folks who bought them out) want continued participation from Team USA in the MXoN, they might need to bend. However, the constant propagation and perpetuation of the MXoN date being pushed back is the biggest piece of bs people have swallowed!
It doesn't (or hasn't) affected the MXoN, which is the whole point of this conversation.
You're separating Matthes point, when you should be conflating them (as they were stated).
The realty here, is that we SUCK compared to the Europeans right now, they are simply schooling us. Period. There is no excuse no matter your patriotism or how you want to spin it. Herlings came here to an Outdoor national and won from nearly dead last. Remember Desalle at Unadilla, Smets at Southwick, Tortelli at A1? Tortelli at Glen Helen? Simply put, the leveled the playing field and elevated.
We should be asking why.
Would also be nice to see people getting behind Steve for mountain biking hardcore and losing a bunch of weight.. changing a lifestyle like he did isn’t easy for anyone. I applaud him for no fake news or bias
1989 Sept 10- Germany
1990 Sept 16- Sweden
1991 Sept 8- Holland
1992 Sept 6- Australia
1993 Sept 12- Austria
1994 Sept 11- Switzerland
1995 Sept 10- Slovakia
1996 Sept 22- Spain
1997 Sept 14- Belgium
1998 Sept 27- GB
1999 Sept 26- Brazil
2000 Sept 10- France
2001 Sept 30- Belgium
2002 (Dates all jacked up with Socal race)
2003 Oct 5- Belgium
*this "they" that is mentioned can surely only be blamed for the years that they are promoting it, right? or are "they" being blamed for the years that they didn't promote it too? seems kinda unfair, but par for the course i guess
Thanks for coming out.
Pit Row
The late September date was never a problem until the nationals started finishing in August. That’s on the AMA. I know they have their reasons, but that’s their concern and not the concern of the rest of the world
Just for example, nobody has to travel further than the Aussies or Kiwis, but do they complain? They have high travel costs and they don't get funded, which usually leads to having to borrow bikes, but do they say it's too hard, we're not going? As for the timing, it's usually in the middle of our SX series (this year just before the start), do you hear them say the schedule needs to change? The tracks, food, accomodation and conditions are usually extremely foreign compared to anything local. Do they say it's all set up against us?
Due to all these circumstances we haven't been able to send an 'A' team in years, not even a B team. None the less they turn up and have a go. Most times they're still competitive against the odds.
So how about ya's all wipe ya eyes, put ya big girl pants on and either go or don't go, but for fuck sake, shut the fuck up about it!
Edit: sorry, just realised you were being sarcastic.
Or when they were winning..
When they win again the dates,tracks,travelling expenses,SX training and herlings and hoff won’t matter.
And maybe Steve will stop taking every opportunity and twist every fact so he can berate the competition
He doesn’t like herlings I get that as a lot of people find him hard to warm to, but Jesus to find him mediocre on a dirt bike
His distaste comes from the fact on outdoors the US don’t have the ball at the minute and he thinks they should go home.
Still as I said before still a good show and he’s a great host.
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