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plowboy 8/17/2019 3:04pm
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plowboy wrote:
Congrats to Eli. Hard fought c-ship. What most of us wonder is why it's so hard fought for him. When he's "on"...he's untouchable but "that guy"...
Congrats to Eli. Hard fought c-ship. What most of us wonder is why it's so hard fought for him. When he's "on"...he's untouchable but "that guy" doesn't always show up. He should be as dominate as Herlings when he lines up...he's that fast. I don't get it.
SwingHard wrote:
Clinches the Title early,50 point lead (2 motos) with one round remaing!
How is that not dominate?
I guess it's how you defiine dominate. RC and Villo were dominate. Eli is not in that league. He should be but...well you know. Awesome, great, super fast, yes...dominate...nope.
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dickjackson170 8/17/2019 3:05pm
8/17/2019 3:05pm
Lol...everyone likes who they like. I try not to compare anyone to anyone else historically (total wins not withstanding. That's at least a measurable). Eli is the best outdoor competitor of his generation.
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plowboy 8/17/2019 3:07pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Dungey > Tomac
zehn wrote:
Come on Mav, you’re smarter than to get roped into this kind of debate
-MAVERICK- wrote:
LOL. I know. Anyway, it doesn't matter if you win by 100 points or a single point. A title is a title, regardless of how big...
LOL. I know.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if you win by 100 points or a single point. A title is a title, regardless of how big or small the margin is.

3 in a row is no small feat.
Totally agree. 3X champ is outstanding. But the argument is "dominant". That's when a 100 point margin defines things.
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-MAVERICK- 8/17/2019 3:12pm
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zehn wrote:
Come on Mav, you’re smarter than to get roped into this kind of debate
-MAVERICK- wrote:
LOL. I know. Anyway, it doesn't matter if you win by 100 points or a single point. A title is a title, regardless of how big...
LOL. I know.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if you win by 100 points or a single point. A title is a title, regardless of how big or small the margin is.

3 in a row is no small feat.
plowboy wrote:
Totally agree. 3X champ is outstanding. But the argument is "dominant". That's when a 100 point margin defines things.
True. In this case I wouldn't say Tomac was dominant.

Dominant rides? Yes, absolutely.
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SwingHard wrote:
Clinches the Title early,50 point lead (2 motos) with one round remaing!
How is that not dominate?
ShipLap wrote:
Dungey won his three championships by a margin of 100-145 points.
SwingHard wrote:
Was the pre- or post- RV retiring?
2010
2012
2015

All were minus RV, who was systematically injured in 2010, 2012 and 2014. RV raced part of the MXGP series in 2015.
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theprizefighter 8/17/2019 4:20pm
8/17/2019 4:20pm
A damn thread congratulating Eli, and some you argue over Herlings, Dungey, and RV. Big time loser material does that.
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SwingHard 8/17/2019 4:28pm
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plowboy wrote:
Congrats to Eli. Hard fought c-ship. What most of us wonder is why it's so hard fought for him. When he's "on"...he's untouchable but "that guy"...
Congrats to Eli. Hard fought c-ship. What most of us wonder is why it's so hard fought for him. When he's "on"...he's untouchable but "that guy" doesn't always show up. He should be as dominate as Herlings when he lines up...he's that fast. I don't get it.
SwingHard wrote:
Clinches the Title early,50 point lead (2 motos) with one round remaing!
How is that not dominate?
plowboy wrote:
I guess it's how you defiine dominate. RC and Villo were dominate. Eli is not in that league. He should be but...well you know. Awesome, great...
I guess it's how you defiine dominate. RC and Villo were dominate. Eli is not in that league. He should be but...well you know. Awesome, great, super fast, yes...dominate...nope.
We have all heard the saying, "MOST STACKED FIELD EVER"! Weege & Langston mention it every round! 2 Moto cushion plus the Championship wrapped up with one round remaining,come on Man!
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PTECH 8/17/2019 4:36pm
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Man I had a feeling he was going to go beast mode today and go 1-1. A lot of people rag on Eli for his mental game but to be 2 seconds of Roczens qualifying time and then to go out and break him in the first moto like that, I think that says quite a lot.
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Harry Backmon 8/17/2019 4:40pm
8/17/2019 4:40pm
theprizefighter wrote:
A damn thread congratulating Eli, and some you argue over Herlings, Dungey, and RV. Big time loser material does that.
We agree on something! Wink
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plowboy 8/17/2019 4:51pm
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Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike. He is unbeatable, without peer, the absolute epitome of motocross excellence. No one before or after him will ever achieve his level of perfection. Can someone please kick me in the nuts for doubting his total domination of all things moto.
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Budds Creek has been pivotal for Eli the last 3 years. Go back and look at the races heading into it, he lost some momentum, lost points etc. Unadilla is probably his worst track, and I wouldn't say Budds is his best track, but it has help him seal the deal.

2017 MM had the momentum and ET3 comes out moto 2 and put a stop to it.


As for the Dungey vs ET3 debate: as a big time fan of both I will say Dungey certainly was great and has great numbers, but Eli is certainly more entertaining to watch. I dont mean the blunders, I think he riders more aggressively and I think that shows.
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Mavetism 8/17/2019 4:56pm
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plowboy wrote:
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike...
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike. He is unbeatable, without peer, the absolute epitome of motocross excellence. No one before or after him will ever achieve his level of perfection. Can someone please kick me in the nuts for doubting his total domination of all things moto.
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BSmooth13 8/17/2019 5:07pm
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plowboy wrote:
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike...
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike. He is unbeatable, without peer, the absolute epitome of motocross excellence. No one before or after him will ever achieve his level of perfection. Can someone please kick me in the nuts for doubting his total domination of all things moto.
I'm not sure about this but....crazy idea....but there may be a middle ground between what you've just said, and what the other, more reasonable people in here are saying in congratulating a 3x champ.

Just food for thought, but who's to say for sure..
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Harry Backmon 8/17/2019 5:11pm
8/17/2019 5:11pm
plowboy wrote:
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike...
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike. He is unbeatable, without peer, the absolute epitome of motocross excellence. No one before or after him will ever achieve his level of perfection. Can someone please kick me in the nuts for doubting his total domination of all things moto.
Dang plowbro...why you getting so worked up? You're usually one of the level-headed ones here. That said, I think I understand as I go off the deep end occasionally.
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DKON 8/17/2019 5:25pm
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plowboy wrote:
Congrats to Eli. Hard fought c-ship. What most of us wonder is why it's so hard fought for him. When he's "on"...he's untouchable but "that guy"...
Congrats to Eli. Hard fought c-ship. What most of us wonder is why it's so hard fought for him. When he's "on"...he's untouchable but "that guy" doesn't always show up. He should be as dominate as Herlings when he lines up...he's that fast. I don't get it.
SwingHard wrote:
Clinches the Title early,50 point lead (2 motos) with one round remaing!
How is that not dominate?
plowboy wrote:
I guess it's how you defiine dominate. RC and Villo were dominate. Eli is not in that league. He should be but...well you know. Awesome, great...
I guess it's how you defiine dominate. RC and Villo were dominate. Eli is not in that league. He should be but...well you know. Awesome, great, super fast, yes...dominate...nope.
Dominant. The word you're looking for is dominant.
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plowboy 8/17/2019 5:28pm
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plowboy wrote:
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike...
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike. He is unbeatable, without peer, the absolute epitome of motocross excellence. No one before or after him will ever achieve his level of perfection. Can someone please kick me in the nuts for doubting his total domination of all things moto.
Harry Backmon wrote:
Dang plowbro...why you getting so worked up? You're usually one of the level-headed ones here. That said, I think I understand as I go off the...
Dang plowbro...why you getting so worked up? You're usually one of the level-headed ones here. That said, I think I understand as I go off the deep end occasionally.
Lol. You and I have seen "dominate" riders. Eli is /can be one of those guys. But the truth is...he isn't. I was firing at the crowd touting him as FMOTP. Superman isn't super once in a while. I actually dig Eli...but I ain't blind...he's got chinks in his armor. If Ricky was as inconsistent...Windham would have had a few championships.

Sorry to come off as a nut. Didn't mean to but I like to keep things real. Eli is crazy fast...but not ALL the time. Do you ever remember Ricky or Ryan not "feeling" it. I don't expect Eli to be the second coming of either of those guys...but I get tired of his fan boys pretending he's in their league.
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Dirtydeeds 8/17/2019 5:33pm
8/17/2019 5:33pm
Sooooo does Kawi back out of ironman now? No sense in showing up right?! Too soon?
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Harry Backmon 8/17/2019 5:45pm
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plowboy wrote:
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike...
Ok. I give up. I submit. I was wrong. Eli Tomac is the best and fastest man to ever throw a leg over an MX bike. He is unbeatable, without peer, the absolute epitome of motocross excellence. No one before or after him will ever achieve his level of perfection. Can someone please kick me in the nuts for doubting his total domination of all things moto.
Harry Backmon wrote:
Dang plowbro...why you getting so worked up? You're usually one of the level-headed ones here. That said, I think I understand as I go off the...
Dang plowbro...why you getting so worked up? You're usually one of the level-headed ones here. That said, I think I understand as I go off the deep end occasionally.
plowboy wrote:
Lol. You and I have seen "dominate" riders. Eli is /can be one of those guys. But the truth is...he isn't. I was firing at the...
Lol. You and I have seen "dominate" riders. Eli is /can be one of those guys. But the truth is...he isn't. I was firing at the crowd touting him as FMOTP. Superman isn't super once in a while. I actually dig Eli...but I ain't blind...he's got chinks in his armor. If Ricky was as inconsistent...Windham would have had a few championships.

Sorry to come off as a nut. Didn't mean to but I like to keep things real. Eli is crazy fast...but not ALL the time. Do you ever remember Ricky or Ryan not "feeling" it. I don't expect Eli to be the second coming of either of those guys...but I get tired of his fan boys pretending he's in their league.
Well, his inconsistency appears to be well known. Yet, here he is 3x champ. The era you speak of... competition not as strong? I truly don't know because from 1992 to 2012 I paid no attention to MX. Not even a little - it was just too painful.
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plowboy 8/17/2019 6:01pm
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I want to go on the record as saying that ET3 is a bad moto mofo and won this series by being the fastest bad ass out there. I have nothing bad to say about him even concerning the MXoN. I don't know enough about the details that lead to their decision to even comment. Disappointment, but that's all I got. Congrats to Eli and Kawi for pulling it out and winning the whole enchilada.
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Harry Backmon 8/17/2019 6:15pm
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plowboy wrote:
I want to go on the record as saying that ET3 is a bad moto mofo and won this series by being the fastest bad ass...
I want to go on the record as saying that ET3 is a bad moto mofo and won this series by being the fastest bad ass out there. I have nothing bad to say about him even concerning the MXoN. I don't know enough about the details that lead to their decision to even comment. Disappointment, but that's all I got. Congrats to Eli and Kawi for pulling it out and winning the whole enchilada.
Agreed, and that's the plowbro I know!
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slotsquid 8/17/2019 6:17pm
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Way to go Champ! ET3 the Dominator!
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gnarwhip 8/17/2019 6:20pm
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ShipLap wrote:
Dungey won his three championships by a margin of 100-145 points.
mxb2 wrote:
And eli has 3 in a row,
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Dungey > Tomac
Dungey never passed Tomac straight up. He just got second places every week. Oh and Tomac jacked his shoulder at Colorado and was out for a looooong time
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Paul333 8/17/2019 6:24pm
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Congratulations to Eli.
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Crush 8/17/2019 6:27pm
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Not many have 3-peated any titles. Pretty cool.

I think the thing that gets lost in Eli’s weird rides, since 2015, each time he’s backed it down and had a weird day, he’s stayed healthy. I think he learnt something in Colorado that day. He didn’t need to annihilate everyone, every time. Just when he felt good and safe.

There’s a few guys who might have won a lot more titles playing it safe when they weren’t feeling it.
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Villo2fan 8/17/2019 6:34pm
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bh84 wrote:
Fastest guy on 2 wheels this side of the Atlantic. When Eli is on, he’s unbeatable. Kills me to see Kenny drop off like that, maybe...
Fastest guy on 2 wheels this side of the Atlantic. When Eli is on, he’s unbeatable. Kills me to see Kenny drop off like that, maybe he’ll be stronger next year.
I can see sx only for roczen soon.
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gnarwhip 8/17/2019 6:34pm
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Crush wrote:
Not many have 3-peated any titles. Pretty cool. I think the thing that gets lost in Eli’s weird rides, since 2015, each time he’s backed it...
Not many have 3-peated any titles. Pretty cool.

I think the thing that gets lost in Eli’s weird rides, since 2015, each time he’s backed it down and had a weird day, he’s stayed healthy. I think he learnt something in Colorado that day. He didn’t need to annihilate everyone, every time. Just when he felt good and safe.

There’s a few guys who might have won a lot more titles playing it safe when they weren’t feeling it.
Yea I think his best ride all year was at Unadilla. He obviously wasn’t feeling it, so instead of riding over his head and getting hurt (like Webb) he was smart and didn’t do anything stupid.
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Phantom 661 8/17/2019 7:01pm
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mxb2 wrote:
And eli has 3 in a row,
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Dungey > Tomac
gnarwhip wrote:
Dungey never passed Tomac straight up. He just got second places every week. Oh and Tomac jacked his shoulder at Colorado and was out for a...
Dungey never passed Tomac straight up. He just got second places every week. Oh and Tomac jacked his shoulder at Colorado and was out for a looooong time
You're high.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
LOL. I know. Anyway, it doesn't matter if you win by 100 points or a single point. A title is a title, regardless of how big...
LOL. I know.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if you win by 100 points or a single point. A title is a title, regardless of how big or small the margin is.

3 in a row is no small feat.
plowboy wrote:
Totally agree. 3X champ is outstanding. But the argument is "dominant". That's when a 100 point margin defines things.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
True. In this case I wouldn't say Tomac was dominant.

Dominant rides? Yes, absolutely.
Look at the depth this year; deep as ever and getting better. Hard to dominate a stacked field but witnessed it first hand at Washougal. One round from passing RJ for what?
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