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Muscle-Milk-KTM 8/10/2019 1:16pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
in my opinion the MEC should be a season opener for SX ... not a closing race for MX outdoors , makes no sense
I’ve never understood that either.
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Yes yes. I, too, read the official report. If Tomac and AC wanted to be there, they would be. And Kawi would support them. Guaranteed. This...
Yes yes. I, too, read the official report. If Tomac and AC wanted to be there, they would be. And Kawi would support them. Guaranteed. This is an individual sport where each rider, especially the top ones, have a ton of influence and say about what they do. Kawi would do anything to keep Tomac and AC, which would include supporting them at the MXoN.
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Sorry but no...Bruce Stjernstrom believes that the time and money involved in supporting his riders at the MXDN is not what they should focus on...he is...
Sorry but no...Bruce Stjernstrom believes that the time and money involved in supporting his riders at the MXDN is not what they should focus on...he is and has been very against the MXDN....AC wanted to be there in the worse way, but was told no by Bruce. The contracts that they have with Kawi is what they have to follow not their "individual' wants and needs...they don't have anywhere the influence you think they do especially at Kawi who has notoriously been pretty rigid as to what races their riders race...when was the last time you've seen a US Kawi rider race an overseas off season race...and any of those you can name will be pre-Bruce...
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This is the kind of thing that is likely behind much of Kawasaki's thinking, the one time he raced the Geneva SX as a pro, though...
This is the kind of thing that is likely behind much of Kawasaki's thinking, the one time he raced the Geneva SX as a pro, though it's as likely to happen at the MEC as the MXON, but the MEC is a much shorter, much cheaper trip, with live prime-time TV coverage in the U.S. where Kawasaki USA is trying to sell their motorcycles...



https://racerxonline.com/2014/12/11/adam-cianciarulo-out-for-2015-super…

As I wrote in Racerhead yesterday, if they could get the date a little closer to the end of the nationals and away from the MEC, it would help not only Team USA but guys like Roczen, Musquin, Ferrandis...

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I agree with that, but won't it take care of itself soon with Sam Boyd scheduled to be demolished and having both UNLV and the Raiders playing in the new stadium I can't see them finding room for the MEC after the first of Sept...
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/10/2019 1:27pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
in my opinion the MEC should be a season opener for SX ... not a closing race for MX outdoors , makes no sense
Agreed. I don't really 'get' the MEC. I mean, why a SX race at that time of year? I couldn't give a damn who if anyone wins a Million. Makes no difference to me. In the past the track has been typical vegas, dry & dusty, not producing great racing.
Im not really interested in it tbh..

Whereas A1 is completely different for me.
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DC 8/10/2019 1:28pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
in my opinion the MEC should be a season opener for SX ... not a closing race for MX outdoors , makes no sense
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I’ve never understood that either.
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I think it would make more sense in December in my personal opinion, but we'll see...

Look, I wish it was easier to get AMA guys from any country to go to the MXON but a lot of things have changed in the last dozen or so years, and the schedules on either continent has a lot to do with it. The AMA series ends sooner, the MXGPs go longer (and they went from 12-14 rounds to 20). Our guys tell me they just don't can't stay focused on motocross while everyone else is turning to supercross, and that showed last year at RedBud when all of those guys (including Roczen) were well into SX testing, then had to switch gears back to outdoors in October.

I don't know how important those last two races in Turkey and China are for MXGP, but the time they take on the calendar is costing the MXON a lot of talent based in the AMA series. Maybe in the future they might consider running a few more early races back-to-back in the early months. For instance, the fourth round was on April 7 and then the fifth round not until May 12, and both were in Italy... That's five weeks that could maybe fit a couple of rounds in and get the MXON a little closer to the middle of September.

If the AMA-based riders are that important (and maybe they aren't, for all I know) everyone needs to rethink the schedule, because SX isn't getting any shorter, and MX in America must end before Labor Day due to the sports calendar and back-to-school.

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hamncheeze 8/10/2019 2:48pm
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I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I...
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I think it would make more sense in December in my personal opinion, but we'll see...

Look, I wish it was easier to get AMA guys from any country to go to the MXON but a lot of things have changed in the last dozen or so years, and the schedules on either continent has a lot to do with it. The AMA series ends sooner, the MXGPs go longer (and they went from 12-14 rounds to 20). Our guys tell me they just don't can't stay focused on motocross while everyone else is turning to supercross, and that showed last year at RedBud when all of those guys (including Roczen) were well into SX testing, then had to switch gears back to outdoors in October.

I don't know how important those last two races in Turkey and China are for MXGP, but the time they take on the calendar is costing the MXON a lot of talent based in the AMA series. Maybe in the future they might consider running a few more early races back-to-back in the early months. For instance, the fourth round was on April 7 and then the fifth round not until May 12, and both were in Italy... That's five weeks that could maybe fit a couple of rounds in and get the MXON a little closer to the middle of September.

If the AMA-based riders are that important (and maybe they aren't, for all I know) everyone needs to rethink the schedule, because SX isn't getting any shorter, and MX in America must end before Labor Day due to the sports calendar and back-to-school.

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This is complex situation no doubt DC, but in the MXGP series' defence they did have a late date change for the Shanghai round that was supposed to be in the 3rd week of April, hence the massive gap between the Italian races.

I do like the thought of having MEC somewhere between American Thanksgiving and Christmas, it would be much more attractive for the teams to test out the bikes/riders in a race situation before A1, plus if it was the first weekend in December it's an easy and inexpensive time for people to travel to Vegas.
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theprizefighter 8/10/2019 3:07pm
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DC wrote:
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I...
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I think it would make more sense in December in my personal opinion, but we'll see...

Look, I wish it was easier to get AMA guys from any country to go to the MXON but a lot of things have changed in the last dozen or so years, and the schedules on either continent has a lot to do with it. The AMA series ends sooner, the MXGPs go longer (and they went from 12-14 rounds to 20). Our guys tell me they just don't can't stay focused on motocross while everyone else is turning to supercross, and that showed last year at RedBud when all of those guys (including Roczen) were well into SX testing, then had to switch gears back to outdoors in October.

I don't know how important those last two races in Turkey and China are for MXGP, but the time they take on the calendar is costing the MXON a lot of talent based in the AMA series. Maybe in the future they might consider running a few more early races back-to-back in the early months. For instance, the fourth round was on April 7 and then the fifth round not until May 12, and both were in Italy... That's five weeks that could maybe fit a couple of rounds in and get the MXON a little closer to the middle of September.

If the AMA-based riders are that important (and maybe they aren't, for all I know) everyone needs to rethink the schedule, because SX isn't getting any shorter, and MX in America must end before Labor Day due to the sports calendar and back-to-school.

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So the U.S. series won't change their schedule, but the MXGP's should?
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DC wrote:
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I...
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I think it would make more sense in December in my personal opinion, but we'll see...

Look, I wish it was easier to get AMA guys from any country to go to the MXON but a lot of things have changed in the last dozen or so years, and the schedules on either continent has a lot to do with it. The AMA series ends sooner, the MXGPs go longer (and they went from 12-14 rounds to 20). Our guys tell me they just don't can't stay focused on motocross while everyone else is turning to supercross, and that showed last year at RedBud when all of those guys (including Roczen) were well into SX testing, then had to switch gears back to outdoors in October.

I don't know how important those last two races in Turkey and China are for MXGP, but the time they take on the calendar is costing the MXON a lot of talent based in the AMA series. Maybe in the future they might consider running a few more early races back-to-back in the early months. For instance, the fourth round was on April 7 and then the fifth round not until May 12, and both were in Italy... That's five weeks that could maybe fit a couple of rounds in and get the MXON a little closer to the middle of September.

If the AMA-based riders are that important (and maybe they aren't, for all I know) everyone needs to rethink the schedule, because SX isn't getting any shorter, and MX in America must end before Labor Day due to the sports calendar and back-to-school.

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theprizefighter wrote:
So the U.S. series won't change their schedule, but the MXGP's should?
they went 5 weeks without a race. Even if the event that was cancelled still ran and they got another 2 rounds in that 5 week space,(3 races in 5 weeks) the MXGP series would end at least 2 weeks early. Don't be a crybaby.
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DC wrote:
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I...
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I think it would make more sense in December in my personal opinion, but we'll see...

Look, I wish it was easier to get AMA guys from any country to go to the MXON but a lot of things have changed in the last dozen or so years, and the schedules on either continent has a lot to do with it. The AMA series ends sooner, the MXGPs go longer (and they went from 12-14 rounds to 20). Our guys tell me they just don't can't stay focused on motocross while everyone else is turning to supercross, and that showed last year at RedBud when all of those guys (including Roczen) were well into SX testing, then had to switch gears back to outdoors in October.

I don't know how important those last two races in Turkey and China are for MXGP, but the time they take on the calendar is costing the MXON a lot of talent based in the AMA series. Maybe in the future they might consider running a few more early races back-to-back in the early months. For instance, the fourth round was on April 7 and then the fifth round not until May 12, and both were in Italy... That's five weeks that could maybe fit a couple of rounds in and get the MXON a little closer to the middle of September.

If the AMA-based riders are that important (and maybe they aren't, for all I know) everyone needs to rethink the schedule, because SX isn't getting any shorter, and MX in America must end before Labor Day due to the sports calendar and back-to-school.

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theprizefighter wrote:
So the U.S. series won't change their schedule, but the MXGP's should?
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks.

I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation. You just saw it play out with our two points leaders not coming, nor Roczen nor Ferrandis nor Musquin. It’s not as much a priority here as it is for MXGP riders, and our guys are trapped by the schedules.

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freebroctickle 8/10/2019 3:49pm
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You know what's really fucktarded? By obsessing over Kawi's cop-out, we are forgetting the guys who ARE representing Team USA. Their names are Zach Osborne, Jason Anderson, and Justin Cooper.

Has anyone even considered that maybe, just maybe, no Kawi riders would have been selected in the first place? Eli just did MXDN last year, so the heat's off him. Cianciarulo seems like a no brainer choice, but then again, so does Cooper Webb - and he wasn't chosen!

I hope a Kawi-free Team USA gets us on the box - maybe even the top step. Team France won without Musquin, right? We don't need Kawasaki to be great. So fuck 'em and forget 'em.
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teamddr 8/10/2019 4:08pm
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DC wrote:
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I...
I hope in the future it is! It's not a "closing race" for outdoors -- it's seven weeks after the last AMA Pro Motocross --and I think it would make more sense in December in my personal opinion, but we'll see...

Look, I wish it was easier to get AMA guys from any country to go to the MXON but a lot of things have changed in the last dozen or so years, and the schedules on either continent has a lot to do with it. The AMA series ends sooner, the MXGPs go longer (and they went from 12-14 rounds to 20). Our guys tell me they just don't can't stay focused on motocross while everyone else is turning to supercross, and that showed last year at RedBud when all of those guys (including Roczen) were well into SX testing, then had to switch gears back to outdoors in October.

I don't know how important those last two races in Turkey and China are for MXGP, but the time they take on the calendar is costing the MXON a lot of talent based in the AMA series. Maybe in the future they might consider running a few more early races back-to-back in the early months. For instance, the fourth round was on April 7 and then the fifth round not until May 12, and both were in Italy... That's five weeks that could maybe fit a couple of rounds in and get the MXON a little closer to the middle of September.

If the AMA-based riders are that important (and maybe they aren't, for all I know) everyone needs to rethink the schedule, because SX isn't getting any shorter, and MX in America must end before Labor Day due to the sports calendar and back-to-school.

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theprizefighter wrote:
So the U.S. series won't change their schedule, but the MXGP's should?
DC wrote:
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks. I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation...
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks.

I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation. You just saw it play out with our two points leaders not coming, nor Roczen nor Ferrandis nor Musquin. It’s not as much a priority here as it is for MXGP riders, and our guys are trapped by the schedules.

DC
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Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the same schedules and contractual obligations as the next pro.
Hope The riders the USA sends have a good MXoN and can at least podium, the riders that’s said yes deserve a bit of karma.
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teamddr wrote:
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the...
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the same schedules and contractual obligations as the next pro.
Hope The riders the USA sends have a good MXoN and can at least podium, the riders that’s said yes deserve a bit of karma.
Difference being Anderson's team is willing to pay his way and Kawasaki isn't
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You know what's really fucktarded? By obsessing over Kawi's cop-out, we are forgetting the guys who ARE representing Team USA. Their names are Zach Osborne, Jason...
You know what's really fucktarded? By obsessing over Kawi's cop-out, we are forgetting the guys who ARE representing Team USA. Their names are Zach Osborne, Jason Anderson, and Justin Cooper.

Has anyone even considered that maybe, just maybe, no Kawi riders would have been selected in the first place? Eli just did MXDN last year, so the heat's off him. Cianciarulo seems like a no brainer choice, but then again, so does Cooper Webb - and he wasn't chosen!

I hope a Kawi-free Team USA gets us on the box - maybe even the top step. Team France won without Musquin, right? We don't need Kawasaki to be great. So fuck 'em and forget 'em.
Someone.posted webb turned it down.
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Someone.posted webb turned it down.
Can't wait for the fanboys to show up to defend him
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Someone.posted webb turned it down.
zehn wrote:
Can't wait for the fanboys to show up to defend him
To busy stomping their feet like 10 year olds , boycotting kawy.
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theprizefighter wrote:
So the U.S. series won't change their schedule, but the MXGP's should?
DC wrote:
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks. I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation...
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks.

I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation. You just saw it play out with our two points leaders not coming, nor Roczen nor Ferrandis nor Musquin. It’s not as much a priority here as it is for MXGP riders, and our guys are trapped by the schedules.

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teamddr wrote:
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the...
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the same schedules and contractual obligations as the next pro.
Hope The riders the USA sends have a good MXoN and can at least podium, the riders that’s said yes deserve a bit of karma.
Man, I am okay with guys who go, and guys who don’t. I get it. But JA21 did not race a full season the last couple years, and his team wants to go. I’m 100% behind him, but I also understand why those who don’t want to go, don’t. Like Kawasaki.

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DC wrote:
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks. I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation...
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks.

I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation. You just saw it play out with our two points leaders not coming, nor Roczen nor Ferrandis nor Musquin. It’s not as much a priority here as it is for MXGP riders, and our guys are trapped by the schedules.

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teamddr wrote:
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the...
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the same schedules and contractual obligations as the next pro.
Hope The riders the USA sends have a good MXoN and can at least podium, the riders that’s said yes deserve a bit of karma.
DC wrote:
Man, I am okay with guys who go, and guys who don’t. I get it. But JA21 did not race a full season the last couple...
Man, I am okay with guys who go, and guys who don’t. I get it. But JA21 did not race a full season the last couple years, and his team wants to go. I’m 100% behind him, but I also understand why those who don’t want to go, don’t. Like Kawasaki.

DC
That’s a very balanced and fair perspective and your opinion will always be respected by all but Kawasaki have scored an own goal here. Anyone that’s been on here for the last few days might suggest they are not listening to the jungle drums. Anyway the USA are bringing a good team and thats all that matters as the MXON would not be the same without them.
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DC 8/11/2019 6:36am
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theprizefighter wrote:
So the U.S. series won't change their schedule, but the MXGP's should?
DC wrote:
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks. I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation...
Can’t. Different than won’t. We are landlocked by the calendar and the networks.

I wish it were different, but that is the reality of the situation. You just saw it play out with our two points leaders not coming, nor Roczen nor Ferrandis nor Musquin. It’s not as much a priority here as it is for MXGP riders, and our guys are trapped by the schedules.

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teamddr wrote:
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the...
Sorry DC your argument might hold some substance if the 2018 SX Champion hadn’t just made himself available to represent his country. Surely he has the same schedules and contractual obligations as the next pro.
Hope The riders the USA sends have a good MXoN and can at least podium, the riders that’s said yes deserve a bit of karma.
I hope they have some good karma too. And I think my opinion does "hold some substance" since many of the top riders based over here are not interested in going. It's awesome that Zach and Jason do want to go. They didn't have the same schedules this year as the others in that both were hurt for much of supercross (Anderson only did three races) and still want to race more in 2019. The MXON would be a great way to end their seasons on a very high note.

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You know what's really fucktarded? By obsessing over Kawi's cop-out, we are forgetting the guys who ARE representing Team USA. Their names are Zach Osborne, Jason...
You know what's really fucktarded? By obsessing over Kawi's cop-out, we are forgetting the guys who ARE representing Team USA. Their names are Zach Osborne, Jason Anderson, and Justin Cooper.

Has anyone even considered that maybe, just maybe, no Kawi riders would have been selected in the first place? Eli just did MXDN last year, so the heat's off him. Cianciarulo seems like a no brainer choice, but then again, so does Cooper Webb - and he wasn't chosen!

I hope a Kawi-free Team USA gets us on the box - maybe even the top step. Team France won without Musquin, right? We don't need Kawasaki to be great. So fuck 'em and forget 'em.
Is it really a cop out on Kawi's part? Say they sent Eli and AC. What are the chances this beast mode Tomac shows up? Slim to none. What about AC? What are the chances he gets caught up in the moment, rides over his head and ends up getting injured? I'd say pretty good.

If every single American pro rider was willing to go, I'd still go with the 3 that were chosen. Regardless where we finish, those 3 riders will leave nothing on the table.

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yak651 8/11/2019 7:38am
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Well writing is on the wall. If DC has no desire to see the best US MX racers at the MXoN, we can expect to see all the OEM teams in the US to stop going in the next 2-3 years. KTM/Husky probably still into it until Roger retires.
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DC 8/11/2019 7:56am
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Well writing is on the wall. If DC has no desire to see the best US MX racers at the MXoN, we can expect to see...
Well writing is on the wall. If DC has no desire to see the best US MX racers at the MXoN, we can expect to see all the OEM teams in the US to stop going in the next 2-3 years. KTM/Husky probably still into it until Roger retires.
I do have a desire to see the best guys go, but they aren't going for specific reasons: scheduling and cost. Nothing I can do about it, but when guys beat on the riders for not going, I try to explain why they aren't going and offer some fixes. Shaming them is not going to work for anyone.

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TDeath21 8/11/2019 9:36am
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DonM wrote:
Ummmm....you're wrong....This is a Bruce Stjerstrom decision...
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Yes yes. I, too, read the official report. If Tomac and AC wanted to be there, they would be. And Kawi would support them. Guaranteed. This...
Yes yes. I, too, read the official report. If Tomac and AC wanted to be there, they would be. And Kawi would support them. Guaranteed. This is an individual sport where each rider, especially the top ones, have a ton of influence and say about what they do. Kawi would do anything to keep Tomac and AC, which would include supporting them at the MXoN.
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Sorry but no...Bruce Stjernstrom believes that the time and money involved in supporting his riders at the MXDN is not what they should focus on...he is...
Sorry but no...Bruce Stjernstrom believes that the time and money involved in supporting his riders at the MXDN is not what they should focus on...he is and has been very against the MXDN....AC wanted to be there in the worse way, but was told no by Bruce. The contracts that they have with Kawi is what they have to follow not their "individual' wants and needs...they don't have anywhere the influence you think they do especially at Kawi who has notoriously been pretty rigid as to what races their riders race...when was the last time you've seen a US Kawi rider race an overseas off season race...and any of those you can name will be pre-Bruce...
Well we clearly believe different things and neither one of us are gonna change our minds. You feel the manufacturers have all the power over the two superstars and I feel the two superstars have more say in what they do.
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theprizefighter 8/11/2019 10:10am
8/11/2019 10:10am
I'd love to hear what Jody Weisel or DV12 has to say about the racers declining to go to the mxon.
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Paul333 8/11/2019 2:29pm
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This is the kind of thing that is likely behind much of Kawasaki's thinking, the one time he raced the Geneva SX as a pro, though...
This is the kind of thing that is likely behind much of Kawasaki's thinking, the one time he raced the Geneva SX as a pro, though it's as likely to happen at the MEC as the MXON, but the MEC is a much shorter, much cheaper trip, with live prime-time TV coverage in the U.S. where Kawasaki USA is trying to sell their motorcycles...



https://racerxonline.com/2014/12/11/adam-cianciarulo-out-for-2015-super…

As I wrote in Racerhead yesterday, if they could get the date a little closer to the end of the nationals and away from the MEC, it would help not only Team USA but guys like Roczen, Musquin, Ferrandis...

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Thank you Sir, great reply but no way is Youthstream going to do anything to aid the U.S. team. It’s painfully obvious they consider you/U.S. MX National Series & Supercross to be a direct competitor. Made worse they are a corrupt organization to their core.

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Nuffsaid 8/11/2019 8:00pm
8/11/2019 8:00pm
When was the last MXdN race a Kawi USA rider won?
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chippo 8/11/2019 9:19pm
8/11/2019 9:19pm
Nuffsaid wrote:
When was the last MXdN race a Kawi USA rider won?
2011 Villopoto
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kaptkaos 8/12/2019 8:21pm
8/12/2019 8:21pm
How bout them Cowboys!!?

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