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Edited Date/Time 8/13/2019 8:45pm
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Moto331 wrote:
Saw this on fb [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/08/09/365484/s1200_A06E0EC2_A5ED_4297_86C6_7F40CB8DC29B.jpg[/img]
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Because you can’t compare Motocross to the PGA tour or NASCAR 🤦🏼‍♂️
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fourfourone 8/9/2019 7:48pm
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I mean I hate to say it but hes kinda of right.
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theesloth 8/9/2019 7:49pm
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lol
our sport is small compared to most.
stop crying and calm down hahaha
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fourfourone 8/9/2019 7:53pm
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It's still sad. Imagine if all top 20 riders were all close competition. It would be great racing.
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yak651 8/9/2019 7:59pm
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And local Thursday night stock car race that gets maybe 2500-3000 fans pays more
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mxpro252 8/9/2019 8:04pm
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Let me know what a guy makes that finishes 20th in a professional bowling event...
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I think pro riders need to have a serious look at the PBR (the rodeo thing, not the beer). The top riders got together and did their own thing. I saw a thing today that the 50th highest earning rider has earned almost a half million (in prize money) over their careers. If pro bull riders can do it, why not pro moto riders?

I see a lot of similarities in the two sports (bull riding and moto) in terms of sponsor exposure (not a lot of advertising space on a bull rider and none on the bull), perception of the sport from non-participants (it’s crazy...my kid isn’t doing that, sort of thing) and moto could benefit a lot from how those pro bull riders started the PBR and how they’ve marketed it.

Just a thought.
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devindavisphoto 8/9/2019 8:07pm
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Unfortunately it's the sport we chose. Golf and NASCAR has bigger fan bases, bigger sponsors, and easier spectating. You can't just pull money out of your ass and pay a 20th place pro $60,000. I don't see SX/MX ever getting to that level of sponsorship without huge changes, changes that would take away a lot of the aspects that make dirt bike racing, dirt bike racing.
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gearhead342 8/9/2019 8:08pm
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fourfourone wrote:
I mean I hate to say it but hes kinda of right.
You're an idiot because your kinda of right

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mxpro252 wrote:
Let me know what a guy makes that finishes 20th in a professional bowling event...
How much does the beat bowler in the world make? Are bowling comps live on TV?

I think moto is a little bigger than bowling.
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yak651 8/9/2019 8:14pm
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mxpro252 wrote:
Let me know what a guy makes that finishes 20th in a professional bowling event...
Looks like 20th on the money list (assuming like points standing) made approx $46k

https://www.pba.com/SeasonStats
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yak651 8/9/2019 8:15pm
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Titan1 wrote:
I think pro riders need to have a serious look at the PBR (the rodeo thing, not the beer). The top riders got together and did...
I think pro riders need to have a serious look at the PBR (the rodeo thing, not the beer). The top riders got together and did their own thing. I saw a thing today that the 50th highest earning rider has earned almost a half million (in prize money) over their careers. If pro bull riders can do it, why not pro moto riders?

I see a lot of similarities in the two sports (bull riding and moto) in terms of sponsor exposure (not a lot of advertising space on a bull rider and none on the bull), perception of the sport from non-participants (it’s crazy...my kid isn’t doing that, sort of thing) and moto could benefit a lot from how those pro bull riders started the PBR and how they’ve marketed it.

Just a thought.
Bull riders are smarter than MX riders?
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dadofagun 8/9/2019 8:25pm
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This sport could give 2 shits for the little guy who scrapes by..... Just keep that entry fee, parking fee, pit ride fee, spare car fee, electrical fee, water fee, gate fee, license fee, and whatever else they can dream up fee coming so that we can provide you THE ULTIMATE PLATFORM to present your amazing skills to future sponsors. WE ARE HERE FOR YOU!!!!!! Sure......

Kiss my ass......
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dadofagun wrote:
This sport could give 2 shits for the little guy who scrapes by..... Just keep that entry fee, parking fee, pit ride fee, spare car fee...
This sport could give 2 shits for the little guy who scrapes by..... Just keep that entry fee, parking fee, pit ride fee, spare car fee, electrical fee, water fee, gate fee, license fee, and whatever else they can dream up fee coming so that we can provide you THE ULTIMATE PLATFORM to present your amazing skills to future sponsors. WE ARE HERE FOR YOU!!!!!! Sure......

Kiss my ass......
Tell us how you really feel
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dadofagun 8/9/2019 8:36pm
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dadofagun wrote:
This sport could give 2 shits for the little guy who scrapes by..... Just keep that entry fee, parking fee, pit ride fee, spare car fee...
This sport could give 2 shits for the little guy who scrapes by..... Just keep that entry fee, parking fee, pit ride fee, spare car fee, electrical fee, water fee, gate fee, license fee, and whatever else they can dream up fee coming so that we can provide you THE ULTIMATE PLATFORM to present your amazing skills to future sponsors. WE ARE HERE FOR YOU!!!!!! Sure......

Kiss my ass......
zehn wrote:
Tell us how you really feel
Sorry..... been a long day.
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JM485 8/9/2019 8:39pm
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I don't think this sport is nearly as small as people would want you to believe. . .

The fact that a guy who made it into the show let alone pulled a top 20 is doing roofs for income on the side is just pathetic and these guys deserve better. It's just amazing to me that the payout is so pathetic, I can make more money than that at a hillclimb if I do well, a fucking hillclimb, that nobody on earth gives two shits about besides the people there (my ego wants me to believe this isn't true but unfortunately my grasp on reality is relatively solid). I'll gladly pay $2 more for my hangtown ticket every year if it went directly to the payout, and I think pretty much anyone else would be happy to as well.
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Moto331 8/9/2019 8:40pm
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I’m not trying to start a war, just thought it was interesting so I posted it
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JohnnyD13 8/9/2019 8:44pm
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So tell him to go play golf! Or nascar! Problem solved. I’m just kidding. It does suck. I am trying to grow my business so that one day I can help these guys. I want it so bad. But it’s not easy
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SwingHard 8/9/2019 8:50pm
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Moto331 wrote:
Saw this on fb [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/08/09/365484/s1200_A06E0EC2_A5ED_4297_86C6_7F40CB8DC29B.jpg[/img]
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So it's similar to what he would make for finishing fourth in a Professional Pickle ball tournament, just F#@*&! SAD!
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Sr_Vet_Rider 8/9/2019 8:52pm
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Plenty of guys that have gotten a top 20th place finish have day jobs to pay their bills. I completely agree that 20th place should pay more than $600, but it’s been this way since day 1. Most people that don’t know, would think that the 20th place rider is making more than that, I’m sure. The entire payout for motocross and SX is horrible.
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dadofagun 8/9/2019 8:56pm
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Moto331 wrote:
I’m not trying to start a war, just thought it was interesting so I posted it
You're cool, just got to thinking about how the little guy gets shit on so badly in this gig. On top of all the fees they have to come up with, for all their hard work, they usually get parked out where the factory rigs have the bike wash run- off water cascading down the hillside. They deserve better.......
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Rhody 8/9/2019 9:02pm
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Find a promoter to start a competing national series. It worked for sprint cars. Full time teams get tow money and making the main pays 800 to start. Expenses are outrageous with 60,000 dollar engines, but attendance per night is probably lower for the Outlaws, I think the average race has about 5k attendance .
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chewy4063 8/9/2019 9:10pm
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how many privateers are on the gate? Would it be enough to make the gate look like crap if they weren’t there? Only way to get AMAs attention is to hurt the bottom line.

Unfortunately I’m sure it would be easy to fix from the promoters perspective to get a full get one way or another. Ultimately it would take all the big names to make any sort of changes. Not gonna happen, they are getting paid.

*edit not talking about privateers getting paid. Just overall being treated better
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8tensolutions 8/9/2019 9:10pm
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The money has to come from somewhere. Simple as that. Comparing other sports is irrelevant unless you have all the details. The riders could get together and demand all they want, but if the money isn't there who pays them? Davey Coombs isn't running around like Dan Bilzerian and works his ass off personally at every National at Lorettas, not to mention owning Racer X too. All of this complaining about privateers is painful. They choose their profession. If they provide so much value, they should sell themselves to Verizon, Coke, or some other huge sponsor that will pay them to finish 20th. It is the same as saying an auto mechanic is paid enough etc etc. If you don't like your income, do something about it.

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gnarwhip 8/9/2019 9:49pm
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Until they bring the price of bikes down, the sport will never grow. Too expensive for anyone who isn’t pulling in serious cash.
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endurox 8/9/2019 10:15pm
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Need a riders union or representation. Personally I would like to see all the privateers get together and not race the SX series. Feld would have to change something as would look stupid to have 8 or 9 guys in each heat race. and no one in the LCQ. NBC's ratings would drop for sure.
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endurox wrote:
Need a riders union or representation. Personally I would like to see all the privateers get together and not race the SX series. Feld would have...
Need a riders union or representation. Personally I would like to see all the privateers get together and not race the SX series. Feld would have to change something as would look stupid to have 8 or 9 guys in each heat race. and no one in the LCQ. NBC's ratings would drop for sure.
We have something like that here. It is called MXGP and noone gave a buck about under 25 racers behind the starting gate....

You can't be feeling bad when you swim in that sweet sweet factory money.
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BigDaddyG 8/9/2019 11:33pm
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Until the riders "sack up" and take control they will never get paid what they are worth. Feld will continue to pocket all the money and everyone outside the top 10 will be broke racers for the most part. Its sad and pushes most privateers out of the sport.
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motocross cat 8/10/2019 1:29am
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8tensolutions wrote:
The money has to come from somewhere. Simple as that. Comparing other sports is irrelevant unless you have all the details. The riders could get together...
The money has to come from somewhere. Simple as that. Comparing other sports is irrelevant unless you have all the details. The riders could get together and demand all they want, but if the money isn't there who pays them? Davey Coombs isn't running around like Dan Bilzerian and works his ass off personally at every National at Lorettas, not to mention owning Racer X too. All of this complaining about privateers is painful. They choose their profession. If they provide so much value, they should sell themselves to Verizon, Coke, or some other huge sponsor that will pay them to finish 20th. It is the same as saying an auto mechanic is paid enough etc etc. If you don't like your income, do something about it.

As David vuillemen always says “ if you want to make more money and have a nice factory ride the solution is simple
GO FASTER “
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