Team USA - Kawi told Adam No

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Now that AC confirmed on pulpmx that he wanted to go but kawasaki said no, our team is cooper, webb, and anderson?
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Osbourne is a lock. Probably Webb and Cooper.
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Damn it.
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Crossup wrote:
Osbourne is a lock. Probably Webb and Cooper.
Cooper has been so underwhelming lately. I know it won’t happen, but if Sexton can get his health back to 100% I’d rather see him go.
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Damn. Does that mean Tomac is a no go aswell? Sad
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Brutal.

Eli has gone already. I hope Adam gets the chance one day for his sake.
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I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
I’m betting AC is more pissed and threw them under the bus publicly on purpose.
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
The best way to avoid that bad PR is to let 'murican riders take their bikes and race for team 'murica.

A USA MXDN win with 2 Kawasakis leading the charge would be quite the marketing tool for Kawasaki
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
Good. I respect AC more for doing this. This is something AC may hold against kawi for a really long time. Don’t be surprised when AC retires he comes out and says not going to this MXdN is the biggest mistake of his career.
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Maybe he is using the media as a tactic to make Kawi let him race Nations? Besides that I totally understand why Kawi is holding Tomac and AC from going.
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Ericrob7 7/30/2019 6:32am
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
They told him no, because he's going to be Tomac's teammate next season. The time it takes to prep for MXON, is time taken away from him prepping for his 1st 450 supercross season. Kawi made the right call. Won't affect sales one bit, and I'm not sure that we are as passionate about the MXON as you think. I would rather not even send a team, its a huge hassle for everyone. Kawi made the correct call with both Tomac and AC.
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
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They told him no, because he's going to be Tomac's teammate next season. The time it takes to prep for MXON, is time taken away from...
They told him no, because he's going to be Tomac's teammate next season. The time it takes to prep for MXON, is time taken away from him prepping for his 1st 450 supercross season. Kawi made the right call. Won't affect sales one bit, and I'm not sure that we are as passionate about the MXON as you think. I would rather not even send a team, its a huge hassle for everyone. Kawi made the correct call with both Tomac and AC.
That’s all your opinion and you’re clearly hugely in the minority. Most, even those not from the USA, want us to send a team. Even if it’s our “B” team.
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
Even if they are pissed. Do you really think they are going to cut a rider they have put 15 years of development in? AC has the power in this situation and I think it is a last ditch effort by him to get to go possibly.
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mattmatt300 7/30/2019 6:41am
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I’m sure Kawi and AC have more important things to worry about than a wildly expensive to attend exhibition race.
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kb228 7/30/2019 6:42am
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sam hain wrote:
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on...
I'm betting Kawi isn't too thrilled AC got on a podcast and threw them under the bus. I'd imagine this could impact sales a little on the mx bike side. Us American's are very passionate about the MXoN and a brand flat telling one our best riders "we won't support you" can't look to good.
Ericrob7 wrote:
They told him no, because he's going to be Tomac's teammate next season. The time it takes to prep for MXON, is time taken away from...
They told him no, because he's going to be Tomac's teammate next season. The time it takes to prep for MXON, is time taken away from him prepping for his 1st 450 supercross season. Kawi made the right call. Won't affect sales one bit, and I'm not sure that we are as passionate about the MXON as you think. I would rather not even send a team, its a huge hassle for everyone. Kawi made the correct call with both Tomac and AC.
Most of this sounds perfectly reasonable.

If adam is going 450, he will be required to ride monster cup like savatgy did. Which means he cant waste the 5 weeks riding a 250 outdoors when he should be testing the 450 on a sx track. Kawi needs adam to slide up into elis spot in a year or two, and being prepared for a1 helps that.

Lets not think kawi is saying no because theyre dicks. Theres a reason for everything.
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agn5009 7/30/2019 6:46am
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That’s seemingly not why kawi doesn’t want him to go. They don’t want him going because he’s transitioning from 250 to 450 this offseason.
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Spend 5 weeks riding a 450 outdoors. Send him in MX3. Win for AC's development, win for Kawi, win for Team USA.

90% of the outdoor laps spun in his life have been in Florida sand. I'd be willing to bet he'd do just as good as Zacho.
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yak651 7/30/2019 6:56am
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Sucks for AC that Kawi won't let him go. Team should be Webb, Osbourne, Anderson. Cooper gets good starts, very important at the MXoN, but he seems to be fading down the stretch run of the season. Also doesn't move up if he doesn't get that start and seems to get flustered when getting passed. Maybe in a year or 2 he would be a good choice.
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mattmatt300 wrote:
I’m sure Kawi and AC have more important things to worry about than a wildly expensive to attend exhibition race.
Stepping up to the 450 will require some testing for him so i can see them holding him out to work on that. I know it has been mentioned countless times about kawi not wanting to go but maybe that was all centered around Adam? Still havent heard anything official on Eli unless i missed something. Am i mistaken or doesnt Kawi have a rig and equipment over there for Desalle and the MXGP team? I dont see what would be so hard to load up Eli and a small support crew to go. Borrow a bike or throw one in a shipping crate and send it over.
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yak651 wrote:
Sucks for AC that Kawi won't let him go. Team should be Webb, Osbourne, Anderson. Cooper gets good starts, very important at the MXoN, but he...
Sucks for AC that Kawi won't let him go. Team should be Webb, Osbourne, Anderson. Cooper gets good starts, very important at the MXoN, but he seems to be fading down the stretch run of the season. Also doesn't move up if he doesn't get that start and seems to get flustered when getting passed. Maybe in a year or 2 he would be a good choice.
And he will not get that kind of top 3 start at the event. Doesn’t matter he’s on the best 250 in the world. Deep sand and starting against 450s both motos he’ll taking nasty sand roost all day as that’s the nature of the 250 guy at that event. And Cooper has not shown he’s the best in traffic. But no matter the team I support team USA.
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I completely understand why AC isn’t going and so does he. Said so himself on the show. It’s not a tactic to get Kawi to let him go. I hope they put Ando over Webb personally. We already know they aren’t going to pick a 450 guy to ride the 250, so Osborne, Anderson, and Justin Cooper seems like the best pick and the probable team.
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bents 7/30/2019 7:21am
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I love Cooper, Osborne, and Webb. Great team. With some consistency they could win.
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blockhead17 7/30/2019 7:24am
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Love to see him go.. but being realistic, it makes total sense :/
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Mr. Afterbar wrote:
I completely understand why AC isn’t going and so does he. Said so himself on the show. It’s not a tactic to get Kawi to let...
I completely understand why AC isn’t going and so does he. Said so himself on the show. It’s not a tactic to get Kawi to let him go. I hope they put Ando over Webb personally. We already know they aren’t going to pick a 450 guy to ride the 250, so Osborne, Anderson, and Justin Cooper seems like the best pick and the probable team.
I’d love to see Sexton get the spot if he can get his health back to 100%. He was really looking great til his heat issues.
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Johnny Ringo 7/30/2019 7:52am
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cooper is good at starts, so there is that
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soggy 7/30/2019 8:07am
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AC is a self admitted bad sand rider so why would we even want him to go? esp on a 250, he's too big the bike would struggle big time. need to send cooper i think.
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Johnny Ringo 7/30/2019 8:14am
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Didn’t Kawi pull stew in 04 so he could get ready for the 250 class? I think RC bailed that year also as he was moving to Suzuki
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hamncheeze 7/30/2019 8:23am
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My take: Neither AC or Eli want to go to MXoN this year and Kawasaki is perfectly OK with taking the fall. They see how much heat Eli has taken in 2016 and 2017, and they are just putting the "we don't support our riders going" shield out there to protect the riders. I'd be willing to bet Sternstrom has had conversations with both Tomac and Cianciarulo on how to play this out.
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