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RichardLoots wrote:
Tomaniacs :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: when he doesnt win he is not ON , its that easy .. but ON or not , he is second...
Tomaniacs Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing when he doesnt win he is not ON , its that easy ..

but ON or not , he is second best until he starts beating Herlings .. stats dont lie
WCRider wrote:
Stats don't lie when you are also not on the bike. Tomac it's 3 titles in a row with a lot of SX wins. Herlings one...
Stats don't lie when you are also not on the bike. Tomac it's 3 titles in a row with a lot of SX wins. Herlings one 450 title in 3 years and he doesn't start to ride in January 17 deathcross races in a row. You feel the difference Herlingsmaniac ?

You would never say something like : "Great race from Tomac", never a kind word, it's impossible for you, it shows how biased you are and your smiley addiction show how attarted you are.
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serious dude ? i know you like it when Herlings is injured , you even laugh about it and delete youre messages when read ..i kow...
serious dude ? i know you like it when Herlings is injured , you even laugh about it and delete youre messages when read ..i kow you dude ..


there is no doubt Tomac is fastest in AMA in recent years , but he raced Herlings in 8 moto's and lost 7 ? so in what imaginary mind of your s is he faster than Herlings ?

maybe you should pay some attention to my comments on youtube and FB as you seem to follow me around with your buddy and fellow Tomaniac Rainman , and put down your Tomaniac glasses and see i gave him a lot of credits in last years ... he is a awesome rider , and by far the best in AMA ...no doubt dude , all my bashing on here has been against fans like you who cheer about his greatness when he has a ride when ON and when he gest 7th he is managing ..lol

once again , Tomac is awesome ..his race yesterday was classis Tomac in beast mode ...but loose the bs about On and whatever ...results dont lie .... Tomac has become a smarter rider , minimalize mistakes and get decent results on bad days ..but dont compare his results to Herlings , a fit Herlings dominates and wins 33 out of 38 motos ...

but when it comes to who is best ...Herlings has yet to be beaten dude , there is no doubt ...
and if that makes you feel i dont like Tomac , thats your problem dude ..its just a fact and like i said stats dont lie
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devindavisphoto 7/28/2019 11:02pm
7/28/2019 11:02pm
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and a healthy, prepared Herlings. That's the key point to my post.
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presto170 7/29/2019 5:36am
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Rs444 wrote:
Thats not fair is it. Injuries have prevented him from winning not his skill. Herlings has 2,5 years in the class tomac has like 6 and...
Thats not fair is it. Injuries have prevented him from winning not his skill. Herlings has 2,5 years in the class tomac has like 6 and tomac except for marv had no opposition 17 or 18 either. If we gonna count national championships why dnt we count junior world titles, dutch master wich is a pro championship and emx wich also is a pro championship. Seems like all of you guys who starts comparing the length of the season w sx in usa to mxgp have missed that every single dude in the gps does national championships like dutch masters, italian nationals, uk nats or german nats as well and to be fair if you count herlings pro titles he has like 12 or 13 titles since 2001, cairoli has 20+ titles.
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If you’re gonna equate the Dutch nationals to the US nationals, why bother posting. You sound re-re.
You’re making it sound like the Dutch championship is full of slow riders, do you know how deep the competition is at those races?? There’s a good 5-10 factory GP riders in both classes, how is that not even close?
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whateversclever69 7/29/2019 6:42am
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Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the planet title one weekend then defend his 7th place finish the next weekend.

I don’t like or dislike Tomac, but most of his fans are a hilarious bunch.
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I agree but tomac wasnt recovering all of 2016 but still had nothing for roczen tho and even tho i prefer tomac over the roczen i...
I agree but tomac wasnt recovering all of 2016 but still had nothing for roczen tho and even tho i prefer tomac over the roczen i really dont like very much and i believe herlings and tomac are the 2 straight up fastest riders ever i have a hard time seeing tomac w 3 championships with a fully healthy kenny 2017/18 because kennys technique is lightyears above 99.9 riders in the world and he is almost as smart of a rider as his old mentor cairoli and its hard to beat a dude like that like we seen this year with a roczen at 80% dominating most of the beginning of the series and how he leads half the races 80% of the time even with his issues. Tbh its gone down to the last race for the title for good old eli 2 years in a row and that was withouth roczen even racing and i dont think marv would have anything for roczen at 100% so who knows what would have happend. Shame that we missed out on 2 seasons of guaranteed good racing tho.
What is your excuse for Ken not beating Eli outdoors on 250s?
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devindavisphoto wrote:
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and...
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and a healthy, prepared Herlings. That's the key point to my post.
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they cant go a year without breaking stuff and missing time. That doesnt come off as a red flag and immediate disqualification the fact he cant ride at a level that enables him to stay on the bike and actually race on race day? Fmotp getting from the fridge to the couch maybe? I guess i learn something new every day. Eli celebrating another win and $100g today while Herlings goes in for another check up. Is this really an argument??
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whateversclever69 wrote:
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the...
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the planet title one weekend then defend his 7th place finish the next weekend.

I don’t like or dislike Tomac, but most of his fans are a hilarious bunch.
Have you read any bubba or reed fan stuff? Lol.
whateversclever69 7/29/2019 6:50am
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whateversclever69 wrote:
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the...
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the planet title one weekend then defend his 7th place finish the next weekend.

I don’t like or dislike Tomac, but most of his fans are a hilarious bunch.
mxb2 wrote:
Have you read any bubba or reed fan stuff? Lol.
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial.

Tomac has won championships. Not as many as several others. He’s not the best ever. He’s not the current fastest on the planet. He is the fastest on some weekends in the US.
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whateversclever69 wrote:
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the...
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the planet title one weekend then defend his 7th place finish the next weekend.

I don’t like or dislike Tomac, but most of his fans are a hilarious bunch.
mxb2 wrote:
Have you read any bubba or reed fan stuff? Lol.
whateversclever69 wrote:
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial. Tomac has won championships. Not as many...
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial.

Tomac has won championships. Not as many as several others. He’s not the best ever. He’s not the current fastest on the planet. He is the fastest on some weekends in the US.
Tomac will have as many big bike Titles as Reed and Stewart in a month.
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mxb2 7/29/2019 6:58am
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mxb2 wrote:
Have you read any bubba or reed fan stuff? Lol.
whateversclever69 wrote:
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial. Tomac has won championships. Not as many...
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial.

Tomac has won championships. Not as many as several others. He’s not the best ever. He’s not the current fastest on the planet. He is the fastest on some weekends in the US.
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Tomac will have as many big bike Titles as Reed and Stewart in a month.
Stop.with facts man.
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whateversclever69 wrote:
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the...
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the planet title one weekend then defend his 7th place finish the next weekend.

I don’t like or dislike Tomac, but most of his fans are a hilarious bunch.
mxb2 wrote:
Have you read any bubba or reed fan stuff? Lol.
whateversclever69 wrote:
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial. Tomac has won championships. Not as many...
Yes. James had a perfect season. 24-0. Reed has had a professional career for 20 years. Both very substantial.

Tomac has won championships. Not as many as several others. He’s not the best ever. He’s not the current fastest on the planet. He is the fastest on some weekends in the US.
My point was those fans come out to defend their guy to no end , Like they know them or are family members . lol
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devindavisphoto wrote:
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and...
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and a healthy, prepared Herlings. That's the key point to my post.
biscuit11 wrote:
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they...
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they cant go a year without breaking stuff and missing time. That doesnt come off as a red flag and immediate disqualification the fact he cant ride at a level that enables him to stay on the bike and actually race on race day? Fmotp getting from the fridge to the couch maybe? I guess i learn something new every day. Eli celebrating another win and $100g today while Herlings goes in for another check up. Is this really an argument??
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i dont know what u have gotten the idea that herlings misses everything all the time from.
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Starting a thread calling Tomac the FMOTP is illegal. I'd press charges.
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devindavisphoto wrote:
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and...
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and a healthy, prepared Herlings. That's the key point to my post.
biscuit11 wrote:
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they...
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they cant go a year without breaking stuff and missing time. That doesnt come off as a red flag and immediate disqualification the fact he cant ride at a level that enables him to stay on the bike and actually race on race day? Fmotp getting from the fridge to the couch maybe? I guess i learn something new every day. Eli celebrating another win and $100g today while Herlings goes in for another check up. Is this really an argument??
Rs444 wrote:
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i...
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i dont know what u have gotten the idea that herlings misses everything all the time from.
He is working on title 3 in a row, yea his results suck.
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biscuit11 7/29/2019 7:12am
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devindavisphoto wrote:
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and...
I'm late to the party, but in my original post I said a healthy Herlings. There's a big difference between Herlings coming back from injury and a healthy, prepared Herlings. That's the key point to my post.
biscuit11 wrote:
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they...
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they cant go a year without breaking stuff and missing time. That doesnt come off as a red flag and immediate disqualification the fact he cant ride at a level that enables him to stay on the bike and actually race on race day? Fmotp getting from the fridge to the couch maybe? I guess i learn something new every day. Eli celebrating another win and $100g today while Herlings goes in for another check up. Is this really an argument??
Rs444 wrote:
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i...
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i dont know what u have gotten the idea that herlings misses everything all the time from.
Hasnt Eli been top 3 every race this year? I mean hey one races to win championships and the other races to please his vital fans i guess. Again the goal in MX is championships and Eli is working on #3 in a row do you realize RC was the only one to do it in modern era? What will you have to say when he wins #4 next year and Herlings is out again hurt because at this point how can you argue the trend??
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biscuit11 7/29/2019 7:14am
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2 easily recognizable trends here. 1 dude racking up championships and the other racking up medical bills. Whos fmotp again??
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3rd trend I see as a couple of MXGP fans shooting fish in a barrel...
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Rs444 wrote:
Different sport, throw both into dakar or endurogp and watch them look like rookies. Cant really base skills in one sport by results in another can...
Different sport, throw both into dakar or endurogp and watch them look like rookies. Cant really base skills in one sport by results in another can we. You guys need to stop using the sx card, its just ridiculous and makes you look dumb and ignorant.
How do Herlings' balls taste?
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biscuit11 wrote:
2 easily recognizable trends here. 1 dude racking up championships and the other racking up medical bills. Whos fmotp again??
The guy with the medical bills.Laughing Tongue
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Harry Backmon 7/29/2019 7:51am
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Loose - the act of untying a knot or letting your cattle loose.

Lose - you can't find your keys. You're wallet is missing because you've lost it.
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Some of the comments of ''seventeen '' are extremely uneducated and dangerous stupid !!!!
Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY more money than you....maybe I could care less what you or anyone on here think...just a thought...
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Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY...
Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY more money than you....maybe I could care less what you or anyone on here think...just a thought...
Pizza anyone?
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Idp57 wrote:
Some of the comments of ''seventeen '' are extremely uneducated and dangerous stupid !!!!
seventeen wrote:
Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY...
Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY more money than you....maybe I could care less what you or anyone on here think...just a thought...
Or maybe not????
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Idp57 wrote:
Some of the comments of ''seventeen '' are extremely uneducated and dangerous stupid !!!!
seventeen wrote:
Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY...
Thank you for your concern; regarding education I have Masters in Finance from UConn...maybe I am saying these things to be purposefully inflamatory...maybe I have WAY more money than you....maybe I could care less what you or anyone on here think...just a thought...
But are you an Esquire?
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RichardLoots 7/29/2019 10:01am
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biscuit11 wrote:
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they...
Well its not Eli’s fault Herlings is hurt more than anyone in recent memory. Also its hard to argue that someone is indeed fmotp when they cant go a year without breaking stuff and missing time. That doesnt come off as a red flag and immediate disqualification the fact he cant ride at a level that enables him to stay on the bike and actually race on race day? Fmotp getting from the fridge to the couch maybe? I guess i learn something new every day. Eli celebrating another win and $100g today while Herlings goes in for another check up. Is this really an argument??
Rs444 wrote:
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i...
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i dont know what u have gotten the idea that herlings misses everything all the time from.
mxb2 wrote:
He is working on title 3 in a row, yea his results suck.
3 titles of possibe 12 titles in 6 years in 450 ... he should have won more titles in my opinion if you look at how much better he is at times ..
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jorgechavez 7/29/2019 10:06am
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whateversclever69 wrote:
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the...
Tomac fans might be the most emotional bunch of people in the sport. So funny to see you guys give him the fastest man on the planet title one weekend then defend his 7th place finish the next weekend.

I don’t like or dislike Tomac, but most of his fans are a hilarious bunch.
I disagree. Seems to me the only people letting their emotions get involved are the people who for whatever reason are upset that Tomac won and is getting praise like he is.
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Rs444 wrote:
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i...
But a dude who you never know of hes gonna completly loose it and get 1-12 in motos are way mlre fmotp right?. And tbh i dont know what u have gotten the idea that herlings misses everything all the time from.
mxb2 wrote:
He is working on title 3 in a row, yea his results suck.
RichardLoots wrote:
3 titles of possibe 12 titles in 6 years in 450 ... he should have won more titles in my opinion if you look at how...
3 titles of possibe 12 titles in 6 years in 450 ... he should have won more titles in my opinion if you look at how much better he is at times ..
Technically, you can only count half of those as possible championships. Your hero isn't expected to win both series' , why should Eli be? Laughing
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