Great Britain removed from MXGP calender

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7/9/2019 9:14am
why 2 races in italy ?
Always been at least 2 for as long as I can remember now, one of them is at Imola though so that will be terrible anyway
7/9/2019 9:18am
why 2 races in italy ?
RG1 wrote:
Always been at least 2 for as long as I can remember now, one of them is at Imola though so that will be terrible anyway
i know , but with countries out for a GP its weird to see Italy still having 2 GP's every season .. quess it helps GL is a italian Wink
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7/9/2019 9:22am
This idiot (Luongo) must think that to be a world championship, the series must actually go all over the world rather than having the best in the world compete in that said championship...
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7/9/2019 9:27am
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Don't forget Youthstream was bought out by Infront this year, who's CEO is Phillippe Blatter. Nephew of the most corrupt man in world sport. Its always...
Don't forget Youthstream was bought out by Infront this year, who's CEO is Phillippe Blatter. Nephew of the most corrupt man in world sport. Its always going to be about maximizing profits from now on. Seeing as the only TV coverage we now get to see in the UK is race 2 of mxgp shown some hours later, there's clear no interest in providing a product for the fans. 4 of them have no venues yet so expect them to change. Massive shame no British GP, shame on you Guiseppe.

Turkey for the final round? Whats the point of that? Unless you're very close in the points at that stage there'll be no point in going.
...and if it does not work in the model that they are creating (costs exceeding revenue) they will jettison the series to the scrap heap.
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7/9/2019 9:29am
Won’t getting the tv package next year that for sure,
What complete money grabbing bunch of knob hockey’s they all are !
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7/9/2019 9:33am
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So much for the Perth Australia round that was supposedly announced at the Pommie gp this year too. Wonder where the TBA round is? Afghanistan? South...
So much for the Perth Australia round that was supposedly announced at the Pommie gp this year too.

Wonder where the TBA round is? Afghanistan? South Pole? Bora Bora?
Exactly... when I watched that first race in Qatar in the desert at night, I kept thinking that this was the beginning of the end.
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7/9/2019 9:44am
why 2 races in italy ?
i know right. Why not put like 12 rounds there... oh wait YS already did that with Supermoto S1...
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7/9/2019 9:47am
seventeen wrote:
This idiot (Luongo) must think that to be a world championship, the series must actually go all over the world rather than having the best in...
This idiot (Luongo) must think that to be a world championship, the series must actually go all over the world rather than having the best in the world compete in that said championship...
Giuseppe Luongo needs to be swimming with the fishes sooner rather than later. MotoGP is now established at COTA, WSBK is at Laguna Seca (racing this weekend as well) yet the largest motocross market on the planet - USA - has no GP?? But some commie market in the East? yeah sure come on over. Yes the manufacturers sell lots of mopeds over there but some regard, honor even, should be shown to those countries where there is a rich history of the respective championship.

These motor World Championships exist because of the establishing countries, to see them treated with such disdain shows that the wrong people are in charge.
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7/9/2019 10:15am
Whitey wrote:
So much for the Perth Australia round that was supposedly announced at the Pommie gp this year too. Wonder where the TBA round is? Afghanistan? South...
So much for the Perth Australia round that was supposedly announced at the Pommie gp this year too.

Wonder where the TBA round is? Afghanistan? South Pole? Bora Bora?
Crossup wrote:
Exactly... when I watched that first race in Qatar in the desert at night, I kept thinking that this was the beginning of the end.
Actually Bora Bora would be great, maybe Hawaii too instead of these stupid Asian rounds. Get Japan back on the calendar
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7/9/2019 10:22am
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When it moved to the earlier date this year I feared this might happen. Dixon made it sound like he was on board with the idea...
When it moved to the earlier date this year I feared this might happen. Dixon made it sound like he was on board with the idea of a GP in (basically) winter but it felt to me like that was the only slot they would let him have. The promoter is going wherever there is money to be made, clearly the UK wasn’t profitable enough
It's nuts because there's always a huge turnout here. It's a shame, I understand they're trying to expand the sport but not hosting rounds in the...
It's nuts because there's always a huge turnout here. It's a shame, I understand they're trying to expand the sport but not hosting rounds in the UK and US is criminal!
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7/9/2019 10:41am
Let’s all get behind the idea of a British Sidecar GP... real racing, real tracks, (Google Strassbessenbach where this weekends German GP is being held) affordable gate prices, free pit access, approachable athletes, big 2 stroke vs big 4 strokes, passionate and knowledgeable fans, smoke bombs, chain saws, party’s at night, a chance of some Brits on the podium... pro solo support race... (125s???) and or youth classes, European quads??? Matterley is in the south of the U.K. too where sidecars have always been popular...
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7/9/2019 11:01am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2019 11:02am
For all Brits, there might be an opening in the schedule the last weekend in August. I won’t believe there will be a Finnish round until...
For all Brits, there might be an opening in the schedule the last weekend in August. I won’t believe there will be a Finnish round until I’m there.
Yeah I think so too. As far as I know the motocross doesn't even exist yet in Kymiring. I think it will be another man made track on a flat ground.

I truely hope that someone will create new better series like WESS series in enduro with proper tracks and 125,250,open classes with out any age limits or other bullshit
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7/9/2019 11:30am
I wouldn't get too worked up. This is schedule 1 of 7 before the final one comes out. Why release a schedule with a TBA in it? Seems pretty unprofessional.
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7/9/2019 12:09pm
I wouldn't get too worked up. This is schedule 1 of 7 before the final one comes out. Why release a schedule with a TBA in...
I wouldn't get too worked up. This is schedule 1 of 7 before the final one comes out. Why release a schedule with a TBA in it? Seems pretty unprofessional.
Negotiating tool.

Got to feel sorry for Steve and the team that put on a great event every year.
7/9/2019 12:12pm
For all Brits, there might be an opening in the schedule the last weekend in August. I won’t believe there will be a Finnish round until...
For all Brits, there might be an opening in the schedule the last weekend in August. I won’t believe there will be a Finnish round until I’m there.
JMX82 wrote:
Yeah I think so too. As far as I know the motocross doesn't even exist yet in Kymiring. I think it will be another man made...
Yeah I think so too. As far as I know the motocross doesn't even exist yet in Kymiring. I think it will be another man made track on a flat ground.

I truely hope that someone will create new better series like WESS series in enduro with proper tracks and 125,250,open classes with out any age limits or other bullshit
As far as I know they should actually have a proper track at the facility. But they haven’t finished the MotoGP track yet and that project has taken forever so I can’t imagine the motocross track being built on schedule. Even though I’ve heard some rumors they’ve might have started some building of the track, but because of how long it has taken and difficult it has been to build the facility I’m doubtful until I see something actually happening.
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7/9/2019 12:13pm
why 2 races in italy ?
RG1 wrote:
Always been at least 2 for as long as I can remember now, one of them is at Imola though so that will be terrible anyway
i know , but with countries out for a GP its weird to see Italy still having 2 GP's every season .. quess it helps GL...
i know , but with countries out for a GP its weird to see Italy still having 2 GP's every season .. quess it helps GL is a italian Wink
$450,000 per event!
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7/9/2019 1:43pm
RG1 wrote:
Always been at least 2 for as long as I can remember now, one of them is at Imola though so that will be terrible anyway
i know , but with countries out for a GP its weird to see Italy still having 2 GP's every season .. quess it helps GL...
i know , but with countries out for a GP its weird to see Italy still having 2 GP's every season .. quess it helps GL is a italian Wink
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$450,000 per event!
Yes, perhaps it's $450,000 per event for the Italian rounds, but that's a discounted price to himself (Luongo playing with the books)...............Whistling

Other GPs, it's rumored to be far more. And, it's said that it goes up each year, eventually to be not affordable / without hope for profit for the local promoter. It's why so many cease to have a GP after 3 or so years,

It's a model he's used for years. With a real bent towards getting governments to foot the bill. A model used by so many sports controllers nowadays. It generally leaves a fair few 'victims' in it's wake, and damages whatever sport it's applied to - greatly.

I've no problem with 2 GPs in Italy, but, I think Luongo basically has control of Mantova, and he really burnt bridges with the MXDN at Maggiora. But, he didn't give a f**k that it probably put an end to a great, storied track, he would have made millions from that event, alone.

RG1 : I went to Imola last year - it was pretty bloody good sitting up on the benches / terraces on the hill, watching MX. .Far better than I thought it would be, it being a 'pop up' track. One at the Mighty Imola! But, as you know, travelling to far away places, for Motorcycle Races, is pretty bloody great no matter what Woohoo . Much of the reason for that was the ride from Switzerland, and getting to go to the Ducati Factory and Museum and a fair few other places............

Steve Dixon is a Businessman : a successful one at that. But, he's been around the sport for decades now, as much as a Nurturer of our sport, as a Businessman - perhaps even more so. He'd undoubtedly get more return from his efforts and money put into the GPs, with innumerable other ventures. But, I think he truly Loves our sport. I'm not sure if I'm right, but I think Britain didn't have a GP for a few years, until Dixon organized the Isle Of White (?) one, then the subsequent ones.
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7/9/2019 1:50pm
These wankers need to be stopped, their killing our sport,

yes,like a tourist I bought the the package (my hand was forced) but when they're racing at shit venues which in turn results in shit racing, I usually fast forwarding the middle part of the race,

It's disheartening , and I'm fastly loosing interest because of these money grabbing slags running it
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7/9/2019 2:03pm
Love the track, the people, not so much Laughing
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7/9/2019 2:23pm
For all Brits, there might be an opening in the schedule the last weekend in August. I won’t believe there will be a Finnish round until...
For all Brits, there might be an opening in the schedule the last weekend in August. I won’t believe there will be a Finnish round until I’m there.
JMX82 wrote:
Yeah I think so too. As far as I know the motocross doesn't even exist yet in Kymiring. I think it will be another man made...
Yeah I think so too. As far as I know the motocross doesn't even exist yet in Kymiring. I think it will be another man made track on a flat ground.

I truely hope that someone will create new better series like WESS series in enduro with proper tracks and 125,250,open classes with out any age limits or other bullshit
Maybe it is time for a new series.

Tell me guys, how many rounds, in how many countries, would you consider it necessary to be called a World Championship?

How much would you come up with to buy a kind of stock in a new company, created for that purpose?

Enquiring minds want to know.
7/9/2019 2:33pm
Really sad to see a magic track like Matterley being dropped out for shitty tracks like the one this weekend.....With 15 riders on the gates....
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7/9/2019 2:44pm Edited Date/Time 7/9/2019 3:02pm
Sometimes the GPs can look so amazing with perfect racing and beautiful back drops and then it can look like shit where a guy can score over 10 points while getting lapped 6 times throughout the day. I have been critical of certain aspects of GB fans at least on Vital but the fact that GB will not host a GP is unthinkable, unfatahamble. It is a pillar of the sport, the foundations in which everything we see today started there and now this! The things you want to actually say about GL would get you banned but I bet most of us think alike in regards to him.
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Sometimes the GPs can look so amazing with perfect racing and beautiful back drops and then it can look like shit where a guy can score...
Sometimes the GPs can look so amazing with perfect racing and beautiful back drops and then it can look like shit where a guy can score over 10 points while getting lapped 6 times throughout the day. I have been critical of certain aspects of GB fans at least on Vital but the fact that GB will not host a GP is unthinkable, unfatahamble. It is a pillar of the sport, the foundations in which everything we see today started there and now this! The things you want to actually say about GL would get you banned but I bet most of us think alike in regards to him.
Thats why loads of us ended up here , we said them, and said them lots to the point where MXTrax banned so many people that were the main contributors left. The place is now tumbleweed.. and i mean proper tumbleweed. At least GuyB has a decent grasp of reality.
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7/9/2019 10:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/9/2019 10:46pm
From MX Vice, a statement from Steve Dixon :

Statement: Steve Dixon
Steve Dixon on losing the British MXGP
Tuesday 9, July 2019
Follow @MXVice over on Instagram now.

British fans were left shocked when the 2020 FIM Motocross World Championship calendar was released moments ago, as it became apparent that the British Grand Prix will not be run next year. Questions were immediately raised, so those of us at MX Vice went to the man who has the answers to those. Steve Dixon provided the following statement on losing the event that he has worked so hard on.

Steve Dixon :

"Obviously the news of no British MXGP in 2020 has shocked many people, just as it did a week ago when the small but dedicated event team found out that there are no initial plans for a British GP. Having worked extremely hard over the last decade to provide Matterley Basin as the ‘Home of British Motocross' we are disappointed with Youthstream's decision to abandon the British Motocross Grand Prix, despite it's incredibly strong history in this country and consistent stability at Matterley Basin. We can see how it's expensive to come to the UK, especially compared to countries where government's invest heavily or are supported heavily in the UK such as British Cycling. That being said, we are already looking into how we can run a unique event for motocross fans at this fantastic music and motorsport venue."

Running the MXGP of Great Britain in March rather than June was a success and improvement over recent years, so that cannot be blamed as the reason for this. What are your thoughts on losing the British Grand Prix? Leave your thoughts on social media (motocrossvice on Twitter). The 2020 FIM Motocross World Championship calendar is available here.

Words: Lewis Phillips | Lead Image: Ray Archer

My thoughts on EMX Open:

Well, at least the EMX Open class seems to be a good thing, in terms of equivalency, and ageing out, though it's a bummer for those of us over 50........... :

The format / rules as given :

"From 2020 and onwards the EMX Open championship will be open to riders from 16-years-old up to 50-years-old on motorcycles from 175cc up to 450cc, for both 2-strokes and 4-strokes."

Of course, 450s will dominate, and the usual idiocy will come from the usual idiots when there are but a few 2ts out there - as they do now when commenting on any series that has equivalency, but, it's a good thing that may serve to get equivalency in the World Championships, some day.
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7/10/2019 1:19am
Bearuno wrote:
[b]From MX Vice, a statement from Steve Dixon :[/b] Statement: Steve Dixon Steve Dixon on losing the British MXGP Tuesday 9, July 2019 Follow @MXVice over...
From MX Vice, a statement from Steve Dixon :

Statement: Steve Dixon
Steve Dixon on losing the British MXGP
Tuesday 9, July 2019
Follow @MXVice over on Instagram now.

British fans were left shocked when the 2020 FIM Motocross World Championship calendar was released moments ago, as it became apparent that the British Grand Prix will not be run next year. Questions were immediately raised, so those of us at MX Vice went to the man who has the answers to those. Steve Dixon provided the following statement on losing the event that he has worked so hard on.

Steve Dixon :

"Obviously the news of no British MXGP in 2020 has shocked many people, just as it did a week ago when the small but dedicated event team found out that there are no initial plans for a British GP. Having worked extremely hard over the last decade to provide Matterley Basin as the ‘Home of British Motocross' we are disappointed with Youthstream's decision to abandon the British Motocross Grand Prix, despite it's incredibly strong history in this country and consistent stability at Matterley Basin. We can see how it's expensive to come to the UK, especially compared to countries where government's invest heavily or are supported heavily in the UK such as British Cycling. That being said, we are already looking into how we can run a unique event for motocross fans at this fantastic music and motorsport venue."

Running the MXGP of Great Britain in March rather than June was a success and improvement over recent years, so that cannot be blamed as the reason for this. What are your thoughts on losing the British Grand Prix? Leave your thoughts on social media (motocrossvice on Twitter). The 2020 FIM Motocross World Championship calendar is available here.

Words: Lewis Phillips | Lead Image: Ray Archer

My thoughts on EMX Open:

Well, at least the EMX Open class seems to be a good thing, in terms of equivalency, and ageing out, though it's a bummer for those of us over 50........... :

The format / rules as given :

"From 2020 and onwards the EMX Open championship will be open to riders from 16-years-old up to 50-years-old on motorcycles from 175cc up to 450cc, for both 2-strokes and 4-strokes."

Of course, 450s will dominate, and the usual idiocy will come from the usual idiots when there are but a few 2ts out there - as they do now when commenting on any series that has equivalency, but, it's a good thing that may serve to get equivalency in the World Championships, some day.
The EMX Open class is essentially just a ‘look at everyone we’ve excluded’ race. Change the rules and get them in the main race. It’s no good having people fast enough to run top 10 in GP’s racing EMX. They should be racing GP’s making the racing better
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The EMX Open class is essentially just a ‘look at everyone we’ve excluded’ race. Change the rules and get them in the main race. It’s no...
The EMX Open class is essentially just a ‘look at everyone we’ve excluded’ race. Change the rules and get them in the main race. It’s no good having people fast enough to run top 10 in GP’s racing EMX. They should be racing GP’s making the racing better
Hey, I tend to agree with you on much of that.

But, I still think these alternating EMX races / series are a good thing. As, even if we were to get back to having riders being allowed to try to qualify for GPs, for 40 spots, there'd still be a shitload of riders and teams that could do, would want to do, the EMX races / series.

And, as a spectator, you get a lot of racing to see.

I'm always puzzled at how so many GP enthusiasts don't realize how bloody big one of the main GPs are, and how many riders turn up for the classes they can get into. And, just how bloody big the combined Brit and Euro racing scene and market is. It's bigger than the US - and I can hear the squawking of those that will object to that, already.......... The vast majority of those, never having been to a main GP, or an International. And, will never go to one.

And, I always hope that the equivalency allowed in EMX250, and now EMX Open, will come to the GP classes. the BS of 'handicapping classes', at the highest levels still, needs to stop.
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7/10/2019 3:52am
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Exactly... when I watched that first race in Qatar in the desert at night, I kept thinking that this was the beginning of the end.
I have no problem with a race in Qatar and also no problem YS makes more money on this race compared to a traditional GP.
I do have a problem with clearly nothing of that money flowing back to teams and privateers, or somehow creating substantial value for OEMs and sponsors.

The Grand Prix series has become more expensive for OEMS, teams and riders, with less income and/or value being offered in return to these parties, and fans have less gp's to actually visit (combined mxgp-mx2 gp in stead of seperat 125- 250 gps), still cannot follow the serie on tv and have to pay to watch online.
The sole thing i can come up with that has worked out good is the emx classes have developed into great classes.
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7/10/2019 4:04am
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Exactly... when I watched that first race in Qatar in the desert at night, I kept thinking that this was the beginning of the end.
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I have no problem with a race in Qatar and also no problem YS makes more money on this race compared to a traditional GP. I...
I have no problem with a race in Qatar and also no problem YS makes more money on this race compared to a traditional GP.
I do have a problem with clearly nothing of that money flowing back to teams and privateers, or somehow creating substantial value for OEMs and sponsors.

The Grand Prix series has become more expensive for OEMS, teams and riders, with less income and/or value being offered in return to these parties, and fans have less gp's to actually visit (combined mxgp-mx2 gp in stead of seperat 125- 250 gps), still cannot follow the serie on tv and have to pay to watch online.
The sole thing i can come up with that has worked out good is the emx classes have developed into great classes.
EMX classes are good to watch, but EMX250 is essentially pointless at this stage. The class rules for EMX250 and MX2 are exactly the same. If you look at the average age of the Top 10 in the points in MX2 and in EMX250 there’s virtually no difference, and there’s 8-10 people in EMX250 who have scored points, and good points, in MX2 before. So why are we splitting these riders up? They should all be in the same race. Forato could potentially win the EMX250 championship, but he’s 21/22? So he’ll have 1 maybe 2 years in MX2 at the most. So what good did it really do him?
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7/10/2019 4:23am
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EMX classes are good to watch, but EMX250 is essentially pointless at this stage. The class rules for EMX250 and MX2 are exactly the same. If...
EMX classes are good to watch, but EMX250 is essentially pointless at this stage. The class rules for EMX250 and MX2 are exactly the same. If you look at the average age of the Top 10 in the points in MX2 and in EMX250 there’s virtually no difference, and there’s 8-10 people in EMX250 who have scored points, and good points, in MX2 before. So why are we splitting these riders up? They should all be in the same race. Forato could potentially win the EMX250 championship, but he’s 21/22? So he’ll have 1 maybe 2 years in MX2 at the most. So what good did it really do him?
Forato's and others situations, could be solved in a heartbeat.

No Bloody Age Limit in MX2! It's a World Championship, there should be No age limit to it.

Oh, and don't forget, the rules are not the same - 250 2ts are still allowed in EMX250, but Not allowed Angry in MX2, RG1.
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7/10/2019 4:40am
MXGP has gone to rat s**t, i remember the good times as a kid watching mx in the late 90's it was amazing!
Sadly mx is a dying sport in the UK, more tracks closing no where to ride!
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